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Rework Freddy

So, I just had a very peculiar thing happen in a Freddy game recently.

I was Freddy, of course, and I have a strong 3gen setup on autowreckers, you can practically sleep any survivor on any gen from the other two gens.

An extremely powerful setup on any killer, except. The survivors didn't care. They didn't acknowledge my presence at all. 4 survivors rushed one of the last gens and just held m1. And failed every skill check.

And they won. I physically could not touch them. I would sleep all 4 of them and before I could even grab the first one off the gen a skill check would happen, all 4 would wake up, and I would sleep them all again. Until the gen was activated and they all Adrenaline to the exit gate, which one of them had split off to open while they were doing the last %.

This was completely mind boggling to me, so I decided to run the numbers on it.

60% odds. If four survivors do *nothing* except hump a gen and fail skill checks, Freddy can't touch them, it is physically impossible.

If that goes down to three survivors the odds only go to 40% of completely ignoring that Freddy is in the match at all.

Freddy is broken, at his current state. He is not a strong late game killer. 60% of the time the survivors could literally pump the last gen in his face and he can not interact with them. It is actually impossible.

For anyone curious on that math.

8% per second to trigger a skillcheck on a gen. 7 seconds to fall asleep means 7 8% chances, or a total of about 45% odds of getting a single skillcheck to wake up. x4 survivors at 45% odds each that's a total of 90% odds per 7 second set to get a skillcheck and wake all 4 up. 5 sets to complete a gen and have change leftover for the regression penalty leaves it at 60% odds total to complete a gen in Freddy's face unopposed.

Please rework Freddy.

TL;DR Freddy essentially doesn't exist as a killer due to the nature of gens being able to wake multiple survivors with a single failed skill check. Fix it.

Comments

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    Yes, that is one of Freddy's big weaknesses. During 7 seconds of dream transition he has to watch how gens finished, survivors get healed/picked up, totems get destroyed right in front of his eyes.

    Dream Transition needs to at least interrupt survivors' actions.

  • Free_Hugs
    Free_Hugs Member Posts: 304
    edited April 2019

    There were 4 survivors on the gen. Every failure is worth 10% regression, or about 8 seconds of lost progress, but every second each of them was on the gen was 2.8 seconds of progress.That's about 10% of progress per set. The generator does not regress from failure with all four survivors on it even if they fail every single check.


    No video, unfortunately, but i'll be seeing if I can get some kyf buddies to replicate it in the future.

  • Free_Hugs
    Free_Hugs Member Posts: 304

    Not a bad thought. I'de just prefer wakeup either requiring another survivor, or if Freddy injures the survivor, requiring him to sleep them again and him not being able to chain hits as effectivly, with the benefit of being able to slow the game down and track much more consistently.

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061

    I think Freddy is fine but he's really dumb.