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Just played a game on Rotten Fields where a Kate could continue to vault the windows on the tractors after blocking them off. This made it almost impossible to catch her, but thankfully she was so bad that i still did. I do have video evidence however it never seems to let me post it on the forums. Has anyone else seen this bug.
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Whilst im still trying to get the right video format to upload it, here is a screenshot of her vaulting it whilst its blocked off. I know other survivors can block it off and another can still use it, but that is not what happened here.
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KK, thanks for letting me know. Do you know if it's specific to the tractor vault, or if it is for all vaults in some matches?
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Right ok, thanks for the help
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Apparently there are no specific windows it happens on.
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Report them, It's a bug and their knowingly exploiting it.
Bans are being giving to people exploiting the legion add ons bug so i don't see why this wouldn't be considered for one too.
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The Legion situation is easily doable and controllable at the player's behest. The window bug is random and uncontrollable. If works one moment then stops the next and it happens on every map at some point and on every window at some point. Somethings are just not bannable because of how widespread and uncontrollable they are. It's annoying, but survivors can't make a window broken purposely.
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If you weren't in a chase, then she can vault all she wants. There actually is a bug where survivors can vault a window way past 3 times while in a chase, but its nothing the survivor can purposefully do. So, it would just be a bug not an exploit. Unless a dev says otherwise of course.
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Yeah I suppose the survivor can't intentionally set it up, It's the games fault.
Sucks cause it can be such a game braking bug when a survivor is aware of it they can abuse it and make a loop and infinite.
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But the survivors are willingly taking advantage of this bug, which is pretty much the definition of "exploit".
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lol how is this an exploit it is literally a visual bug. I had some streamer accuse me of abusing it simply because the window was blocked for him but not for me.
Ya'll need to chill out.
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It's not just visual since they can still jump through blocked windows. Besides, according to @thesuicidefox, information travels quickly in gaming communities, so there's no way they don't know about the bug they're exploiting.
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Like you yesterday about the Legion?
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Difference is your killer actually exploits and people who do it get banned for it :D
So in a way, yes, thank you for admitting how Legion mains essentially abuse exploits to win.
@Ihatelife "I hate life" lol
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Yes, let's blame the killer for this. This is really no fault from the players and the deep wound mechanic :)
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@Orion survivors don't see it blocked only the killer does I've saw it in match and asked a survivor and they had no idea what I was talking about they said the window got blocked and they ran away I sent the screenshot of it and they said it wasn't blocked for them until they left the shack area and that was why they quit running there, so I'm assuming it's a visual bug as @Detective_Jonathan said
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Even if they don't know, again, according to @thesuicidefox, ignorance is no excuse, and they should still be reported.
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Some people just abuse exploits. It's disgusting. Although, the tractor is easily shut down by Hag/Nurse, Spirit, Huntress or potentially Trapper, but you need a trap to do so. I put it in order of effectiveness to shut it down.
But yeah, that sucks.
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@Orion You're it should be reported, but the player should not be reported because of a visual bug, that kind of thinking is going to get a lot of angry players.
Imagine being banned for a visual bug that you couldn't control. That's the games fault right there, because while the window is blocked for the killer, it may not be for the survivor, that doesn't mean their abusing it.
Besides, if it really bothers you that much, you could just run Bamboozle, and the window would be blocked.
But until then, you're not going to sit there and report a player for a visual bug, especially when you have a counter play to it.
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It's not just a visual bug. The window should be physically blocked, and they know it, but they choose to exploit it regardless. Bamboozle doesn't do anything.
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The way it works is that if the survivor walk / slow vault at the window, the chase will drop off and the window blocker won't appear (since it only triggers in a chase). The way to counter it is to follow the survivor through the window since then the survivor will be forced to run and trigger the chase again.
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You take what I say way out of context.
You can know about the window bug, BUT IF THE GAME DOESN'T TELL YOU IT'S HAPPENING how can you know unless you vault a window 6 times in a chase.
Unlike other bugs this one is random and cannot be triggered at will by survivors, besides the fact they don't see/hear the window getting blocked. Maybe SOMETIMES they do, but from what I've seen no you don't.
So you are trying to compare somethings that are intentional and abused on purpose, preemptively even, to something that happens at random and doesn't happen the same for everyone.
If there was a way to do it on purpose, or if there was a clear indication it's happened to all parties, then YES it should be bannable. But neither of these cases are true.
You can stop misrepresenting me now.
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You said ignorance is not an excuse, yet try to justify this exploit with it. Interesting.
I applied the same logic because the alternative is insulting (to you).
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@Milo Because a player abusing an exploit will always tell you the truth when you ask about it.
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And apparently now windows aren't even getting blocked in killer's POV.
I played a match as Trapper where a Jake was the only guy left standing and vaulted 4 times the window in killer's shack, while never breaking chase. I didn't see any Entity blocker.
Jake quickly realized it and left the shack for good. That's good sportsmanship there.
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You are taking what I said and twisting it to fit your narrative.
Mend bug is bannable because it can be done one purpose and the effects are clearly seen by all parties.
Window bug is not bannable because it has no consistent trigger and the game doesn't always make it clear that it happened.
So in both cases you can know about the bug, only in the second case do you not have control over it nor are you made aware that it has even happened. Therefore it is a different circumstance.
But go ahead and repeat the same thing and @ me again because you fail at logic.
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Ignorance is no excuse. Those were your words. Regardless, you can know it happened simply by counting the vaults. Information travels quickly (also your words), so they must know how many vaults it takes to block a window.
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You don't seem to understand what I actually said. You just insist on repeating it over and over when there are difference circumstances.
Some areas have a lot of windows and in a chase with a slow killer you might not always be "in a chase" according to the game. So there are legit times where a window should not be blocked after vaulting it several times.
But I know you will just repeat this post again and again because you are ignorant.
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If you give survivors an exploit, they never choose not to abuse it.
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An exploit is using a bug to your advantage? And i was in a chase with her the entire time
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Yes but the survivor new it was working. Literally every time i went in a chase with her, she would go to a tractor, and just switch sides repeatedly. You can't not realise after vaulting the same window 10 times in a row. Also no it's not a visual bug, as if that was the case the survivor wouldn't see the entity spikes, but could still not vault, however she quite obviously could vault.
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It's not just a visual bug, a visual bug would be something that only looked different from how it's supposed to be, but acted the same. Since you couldn't see it become blocked AND you could still vault it, it's more than just a visual bug.
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How the hell am i supposed to make the time to count vaults when i am being chased by a killer, i don't count i run dude. If the window gets blocked then it's blocked, i run somewhere else, the only one who should be counting is the killer, i would know because i have done so when chasing survivors.
You can't simply be serious in saying that survivors should be aware in knowing when they are abusing something, that's so stupid.
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Hey, I'm just using the same logic that guy used. He said that killers should be aware of how long it's taking survivors to mend and (implicitly) immediately figure out the source of the bug. However, killers do not receive any notification of when survivors start or stop mending, and they, too, are kinda busy chasing survivors to even pay attention to that crap. Nevertheless, he defended bans for killers - even those ignorant of the Legion exploit, citing "ignorance is no excuse" and "information travels quickly" - yet vehemently opposes the same for survivors. That's bias right there.
I simply want the same standards to be applied to both sides. If killers are to be banned, so should survivors.
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