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Does Knock Out really have to be trumped by Bond, Empathy, Aftercare?

Demian
Demian Member Posts: 89

I think this perk is too low in strength.

For example, in the case of Knockout (Tier 3) and Bond (Tier 3), what if Dying Survivors' Aura will be able to visible inside 36-16 = 20m? Even so, I think that Knockout is still easily broken. (And, as you all know, SWF can even use out-of-game communication tools.)

I am sorry if it has already been discussed. How do everyone think about this?

Comments

  • Madjura
    Madjura Member Posts: 2,477

    Knock Out is the worst killer perk and second worst perk in the game overall because of precisely what you mentioned, especially SWF which turns it into a "Does nothing." perk

  • Chaotic_Riddle
    Chaotic_Riddle Member Posts: 1,953

    It narrows down to one of those 'what if' scenarios. You generally have to plan out your set before hand when it comes to choosing perks like this. If you see a Dwight or a Claudette in the lobby, 5/10 is there a chance that the Dwight has Bond, while there's generally an 8.5/10 chance that the Claudette has Empathy. If you're worried about them having perks that could reveal other's locations while downed, ignore bringing Knock Out, but rather, bring Hex:The Third Seal. The blindness will counter all of their perks and will be very useful in assisting you if you have perks like Ruin, Devour, and Haunting Ground in play, as it won't be a huge loss if it is taken away.

    I hope this helps. :)

  • keenko
    keenko Member Posts: 62

    Slugging is extremely strong as is and Knock Out is already good on solo survs. If survivors didn’t have a way of countering it with aura perks, slugging knock out killers would be even more obnoxious.

  • Watery
    Watery Member Posts: 1,167

    Run thirdseal or Blindness addons.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    Although I do enjoy using Bond from time to time I do feel like it really doesn't need to counter Knock Out (along with the Empathy and whatnot) seeing as Knock Out isn't all that amazing anyway.

  • Mat_Sella
    Mat_Sella Member Posts: 3,557

    No thanks, sluggers are slags.