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Feral Frenzy Rework - The Legion

Please read before leaving hateful comments, thanks.

No I do not think the legion is overpowered as such nor should he/she be removed from the game. The legion’s ability DEFINITELY NEEDS FIXING though. It doesn't matter how many hits it takes to down a survivor in feral frenzy, this ability is the alternate method for camping. After hooking a survivor this killer can roam free and when the survivor leaves the hook, he/she can shoot right back to the injured survivor, down them and often can inflict at least one hit on the rescuer. There are few maps challenge this killer more for example, ones with lots of obstacles however, there is little to no skill holding down one button while moving to catch up to a helpless survivor.

I’m no expert at game balancing but I’d like to think I have a good idea (as does everyone else I’m assuming). I wanted to share my thoughts and adjustments on the Feral Frenzy ability. Make of them what you will.

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:

  1. MODERATELY DECREASE the speed of Feral Frenzy when a survivor has been hit EACH TIME.
  2. The legion alternatively lunges and only has to hit the survivor TWICE with Feral Frenzy. However, missed hits result in a 2 SECOND cool down PENALTY.
  3. MODERATELY DECREASE the speed of Feral Frenzy. For each survivor in the chase, the legion gets a 3% speed INCREASE up to a total of 8% improved speed MAXIMUM.

It it would be great to hear from what anyone else thinks. If you have any other possible solutions, I’d love to see them. Please do something about this DBD!

Comments

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457

    @Evanjm10

    Legion takes skill now. Decreasing the speed of FF will just make them worse.

    Legion is basically a weaker nurse. If Legion misses an attack survivors can get out of Los. We are not able to see scratch marks or blood during and a bit after FF

    I honestly would prefer if Legion either got increase speed or allow me to use the power whenever I want. I’m fine with the stun.

    Also players are always going to tunnel/camp if that’s there play style. Devs try to encourage players not to. Everyone play the way they want to

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  • Chaotic_Riddle
    Chaotic_Riddle Member Posts: 1,953

    @Iceman I love seeing my idea every time you post that pin.

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457

    @Chaotic_Riddle

    What idea? Being able to use the power whenever? If so this is just my own thought from playing Legion myself. I didn’t take any one idea. If anything I normally credit if it not mine.

    And the pin I am just using because I find it awesome but I could stop.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965
    edited May 2019

    @Iceman "Legion is a weaker nurse"??!?! What are you talking about? Those killers have nothing in common. Like at all. If someone were to say "Spirit is a weaker nurse", I could at least understand where they are coming from. The Spirit's ability from the survivors perspective is sort of like a blink. But explain how anything Legion does is remotely like blinking.

    PS: What part of Legion requires skill? He's a basic attack killer. He takes as much skill as Freddy or Myers.

  • Kiskashi
    Kiskashi Member Posts: 1,043
    edited May 2019

    @Dreamnomad I think it's more of a stun based comparison. Increased distance covered at cost of horrible stuns, plus they quoted LOS counter which is exactly what people do with nurse on stuns etc.

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,911


    Its almost like the original idea behind killer powers is that it will benefit them and give an advantage. Insanity.

    That hook scenario is exactly the same as ANY other killers choice to camp. Don't unhook someone if Legion is camping the area. Even if they Frenzy into the area after the unhook. They can't down anyone without the stun and extra time to evade. How is that different than any other killer downing the person who shouldn't have been unhooked in the first place then injuring the rescuer? It might actually be HARDER for the Legion if they end up missing an attack in Frenzy

    Catching up to a "helpless survivor" whom can void the power entirely if they bait a miss swing. Whom can't be downed at all without a big stun in between the initial and 2nd hit....this is literally complaining that in theory Legions power CAN be useful to a killer. I can't imagine what you think about Nurse or Billies saw.


    1. Speed? They already slowed it down. We need it impossible to tag 2 people in one usage now?
    2. In regards to applying Deep Wound? Are you serious? So Legion would lunge which is a longer animation and easier to evade....but would need to hit someone twice to apply deep wound? I've gotta be misreading this....WHILE slowing Legion down?
    3. Increase Legions speed in a scenario non potato survivors should never be in anyways. LOL


  • Plu
    Plu Member Posts: 1,468

    What are you on about, Legion never took skill and even less now since it's just a basic 115% killers.

  • Chaotic_Riddle
    Chaotic_Riddle Member Posts: 1,953

    @Iceman Oh, I wasn’t talking about your own idea, that’s your’s. I was referring to the pin...B u n n y L e g i o n.

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457
    edited May 2019

    @Plu

    I didn’t say previous Legion took skill. I am talking about now.

    @Dreamnomad

    Major skill? No, but you still require skill because

    1. Theres no spamming FF
    2. Missed attack will get you stun, so you time your hits.
    3. You have to pay attention to your surroundings. Otherwise it’s very easy to lose a survivor since you are not able to see blood/scratch mark in FF.

    Number 3 is the reason why I compared Legion to nurse because during stun you have a chance of getting out of sight.

  • Plu
    Plu Member Posts: 1,468

    Yeah exactly, current Legion take even less skill since he's 115 and not 110, so i don't know what you are on about, @Iceman

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457

    @Chaotic_Riddle

    Oh I apologize, I read the post as being sarcasm for some reason.

    And yes I really love your bunny design lol. The day I see a purple Legion cosmetic is the day it should be called Chaotic lol.

    @Plu

    M1 or not, his power still require skill. Yes I’m aware that his power is useless. However if you wanted to use it will take skill.

  • Evanjm10
    Evanjm10 Member Posts: 2

    @ASurvkillivorer

    Firstly, I know that any killer can camp by survivors on the hook but it is more common with The Legion because of how quick he can turn his attention from chasing another survivor to back to camping by the hook again. I do think all killers deserve harsher penalties for camping. Not just a reduction in score and blood points because it is not affecting players enough to stop camping. There should be something else put in place to stop this but at the moment, camping isn't the main thing I'm complaining about.

    "I can't imagine what you think about Nurse or Billies saw."

    I have nothing against the nurse as I have started playing as her myself. Not sure if you are aware but she is the SLOWEST killer in the game. She is one of the hardest killers to play because of the precision needed, using her teleportation ability. After every use of her ability she has a cool down where she completely loses sight of her target. With the legion, he loses a lot of his sight but it is relatively easy to predict where the survivor has gone in the past 3 or so seconds from the remaining vision.

    Finally, the hillbilly is fine as well because you can hear his chainsaw from quite far away and at different volume levels depending on how close you are.

    I don't want to come across as a typical guy who makes excuses every time I get knocked and I don't think I am that kind of person but I bet others would beg to differ. Im not a pro at playing the killer or survivor but id like to think I know what I'm talking about.

  • bubbascal
    bubbascal Member Posts: 316

    Oh my god. There's idiots trying to say Legion is still OP. OH MY GOD. 🤣🤣🤣


    LMAO no, Jan. Legion does not need a nerf, their useless power 100% takes skill and the situation you described would be possible for any other Killer.

    Rank 20s gonna cry, I guess.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,098

    No

  • KaoMinerva
    KaoMinerva Member Posts: 451

    Weaker nurse? Lol!


    Are you serious with this statement?