Killers are using the in-game to bully
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its a new feature with a cool animation everyone is hyped about.
let them have fun, the hype will die within a month or so.
and guess what? the amount of ppl trying to get a entity sacrifice will tremendously drop.
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4 minutes isn't indefinite. Indefinite was indefinite. You will die eventually; we had to sit there in a mexican friggin' standoff.
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As @Orion pointed out, the number of people doing this will likely fade soon enough. My issue with this is it still leaves the option to be a toxic ######### in place. I understand wanting to see the animation. What I don't understand is slugging the survivor, carrying them to near the hatch, to close it in front of them. It's garbage behavior like that is why as Orion said we can't have nice things.
As for the people arguing that killers had it worse, so? You can't justify your poor sportsmanship with somebody did it to you before. I'm by no means saying survivors haven't been, and aren't still (at least some of them) a bunch of BMing bastards. It still doesn't justify you being one too. Especially towards someone who did nothing to you.
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lol you guys are cute, saying the killer is bullying you now when there are countless posts about killers asking survivors to stop t-bagging for 2 years at the exit gates.
Hilarious.
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So... has tbagging gone anywhere?... No....
So what makes people think that the new End Game Challenge is going anywhere?
haha... good one!
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Honestly survivors that stay in the match and waste The Killers time and the killers that slug the Survivor at the end game when there's the only Survivor left instead of just putting them on a hook to die and get more points should both burn in hell. It goes both ways
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The amount of people defending Killers doing this is sad to see. Two wrongs don’t make it right.
Doesn't matter which side you’re playing, don’t be an #########.
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You can't claim that a survivor held the game hostage at a hatch standoff because the killer could end it at ANY time by hitting the survivor (and not be greedy wanting a 4k). The killer is responsible for how long a hatch standoff lasts just as much as a survivor is. That's not even considering the fact that the survivor had to find and/or reach the hatch before the killer. Yes, if there was a standoff there was a good chance the survivor would escape but there was also a chance the survivor wouldn't. With the new End Game there is no chance if the hatch is closed and the killer knows where the last survivor is or if the gates are close together. The End Game is the true definition of holding the game hostage because a survivor can do NOTHING if knocked down but wait for it to be over (similar to being trapped in the basement).
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I'm not sure anyone is advocating being an #########.
I believe what people are saying is that being slugged for 4 minutes is bearable and not game breaking.
As a killer...this whole argument smacks of fake outrage.
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As far as survivors refusing to leave goes... let the killer exit the gates to end the game. Easy fix.
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4 minutes isn't toxic. It's a brief annoyance. Get over it.
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Toxic is intentionally taunting the other player(s). @thrawn3054 gave one such example. Slugging by itself is not toxic, but thrawn3054's example is an example of toxicity.
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Let's get one thing straight, sitting at exit gates, is not "mocking" the killer. Do you know anything about the piping system? Sitting at the exit gates is more time in the trial, used to be you had to be in trial for 9 minutes to get gold if i recall correctly. If you leave the trial too quickly, you depip. If the killer comes to the gate, you'll get some points for escaping a chase as well. It's a matter of how the piping system works, it's not toxic, and it's not bullying.
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Holding the game Hostage means there is 0 chance of any PROGRESS to the match.
The killer kills, or the survivors survive, it's all progress and not defined as holding the game Hostage.
If the survivor can't survive then the killer did his/her job.
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Easy fix. Last survivor alive when downed during the endgame doesn't slow the endgame. It SPEEDS it up. Its up to the killer if they want the hook or the Entity ground kill. Seriously this would make this a non issue.
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There is 0 chance at that point for a survivor if they're downed and can't get up. The killer could easily end the match by hooking them but many of them don't and instead troll the last survivor. And as far as the timer speeding up when survivor is on the ground goes... I'd prefer that over waiting for it to go down.
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So you want give them a legal rage quit button?
Why not just end the match, after the killer close the hatch?
Killer close the hatch => Killer Mori scene => game end
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It would be abused. Survivors already willingly crawl away to a random corner of the map when they're slugged to deny killers the hook and associated points. This would take away any possibility of the killer getting that last hook.
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Only killers were the ones stuck in hostage situations?
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Same difference. Killer slugs one survivor, who then goes AWOL, kills the other one, closes the hatch. Now the last survivor can deny the killer everything with the push of a button.
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But the killer has no idea where the last survivor is, and the hatch is a free escape. Therefore, closing the hatch is the right tactical decision. As far as the killer knows, the survivor is near the hatch.
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Please note that the end game before was never bully proof and the survivors would hold the game hostage and bully the killer in some occasions. You should be leaving when a door is open. It should feel tight and tense, trying to escape in time. Otherwise the ending is a joke.
Learn time management. If the killer is waiting to hook someone or you get past a certain point, you should leave by default. BW can trap you inside (as it had done before) and because the end game actually means something now and isn't heavily survivor sided, the killer can do things to win against survivors even while in end game.
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This right here. I've never had an issue with folks just sitting at the gate waiting for me to chainsaw, vomit, whatever M2 you got, or smack them out. I get points, they get points, everyone gets a little extra. It's only if you're tea bagging, flashlight click spamming, or letting me hit you to blow your MoM and DS perks you have saved up. That, gets on my nerves. Stop rubbing it in you won, move on. To me Killers who get angry Survivors even dare to stay at the exit are just a tad bit salty they lost. Don't get me wrong, screaming balance issues aside, can't really blame Survivors for abusing bad balance when it's offered to them on a silver platter. Can blame them if they are not only abusing it, but also flaunting it and rubbing it in your face though.
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