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Thank you for cleaning up Legion.

PinkEricka
PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042

Just played Legion for the first time after their nerf.

I have to say, compared to how they were back then, they were an honest mess of a killer, annoying at the most. They required no type of skill whatsoever. All you had to do was swing wildly to get hits.

The crying of how they nerfed a "perfectly good" killer was false. They're more cleaned up now.

They can't tunnel with Frenzy anymore and they can't swing wildly without trying to achieve a steady aim.

Best thing they could ever do to balance them, IMO.

Comments

  • PinkEricka
    PinkEricka Member Posts: 1,042
    edited May 2019

    @lasombra1979 It's honestly not that bad. I thought it was going to be bad the way people were exaggerating him but there was really no harm done.

    All you have to do is make sure you have good add-ons and get a steady aim on the survivor. I don't see anything wrong with him. They were way more annoying before the nerf.

    All they would do is just tunnel and hit people back to back with frenzy. Now they're just a killer that has more balance to it and a little bit more tolerating to play against.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,140

    @pinkerica to me the vault speeds just feel off and just do not fit what I imagine in a frenzy. It may be best for balance just does play right.

  • ASpazNamedSteve
    ASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,784

    I agree with you, however I still think he needs some tweaks.

    Like I agree with @lasombra1979 that his vault speed feels off, and imo should be reverted to how it was. That plus a lot of his addons are now useless, which would be nice to address.

    Apart from that I think he's actually a balanced killer that's healthy for the game now.

  • Akuma
    Akuma Member Posts: 407

    Show your rank and your played hours. And all your leveled killer.

    He's not annoying anymore yea and they way he should work is awesome. But he has so much downsides ans punishments for a non-killing ability it's ridiculous. Not even any other killer ability (which are all deadly) is that much restricted except freddy. But Freddy gets a rework so nvm.

  • Shad03
    Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    My personal problem is how Legion became another Trapper. Not that I have a problem with that, it's just I wanted someone who isn't just a brain dead melee only.

    I agree that Deep Wounds needed a change, no sane person would ever say no to that. But Feral Frenzy was equally gutted. BHVR has a strange habit where, if you want to buff one thing, something else needs to get nerfed to make the buff useless (see Wraith).

    As a avid Legion main (I honestly feel like I need to branch out on the topics I reply to, but it seems like I cannot), my main complaint is that while the Legion now has a longer FF Duration, their overall speed suffers, as well as the Meter.

    What made the Legion fun for many of us was the feeling of speed and control. The Legion 'Rework' made it so we neither have speed, or control over our own ability. Let's look at the Spirit.

    Her natural overall power recharges at 15 seconds, down from the 20 she had initially. Her power, while it cannot harm people on it's own, gives her the power to be threatening. The Spirit was weak on arrival, and because the community (debatable actually) got together, she was buffed to become one of the top tier killers known. She may not have the ability to use her power at will, but a fast recharge without losing it simply by hitting someone or missing a swing makes that almost a non-issue if at all.

    The point of the above example, is that The Legion isn't really fun for many of us who wanted to feel pure speed without having to play Billy Boi. Honestly, what I personally want is:

    Faster Feral Frenzy (while keeping the duration)

    Ability to use Feral Frenzy with at least 50% charge

    Partial power drain when missing a attack in Feral Frenzy so the console players aren't so punished when Frame Rates screw us up.

    Lower Recharge so the ruler add ons aren't needed (Recharge back to 15 seconds instead of 20)

    I'm not even asking for a stun decrease.

    TL;DR

    Most of the smarter Legion mains aren't angry cause the cheese was removed, we are angry that we got nothing in return. What I want is a return in investment, by which I mean is making Feral Frenzy great again.

    I hope you take time to consider my post instead of thinking I'm asking for a brain dead ez mode. (Despite the fact that pre-rework Legion was weak if they DIDN'T cheese)

  • DoubleTap
    DoubleTap Member Posts: 218

    Legion add on's that affect the bleed out timer are completely obsolete. Fix those and the rest is fine.

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378

    The speed and Feral Frenzy rework is garbage. You're mostly a M1 Killer that has a mildly annoying Ability that isn't the least bit threatening and no, it doesn't slow down Gen Progresson. You'll rarely get more than 2 people hit with FF and if you do manage to get 3 or all 4 hit, unless you're against potatos, you won't be getting that again.


    Legion needed tweaking for good reason, the only good thing is the faster base movement speed..but at such a high negative to vault speed, FF speed, Power recharge increased, can't progress the Deep Wounds with consecutive hits AND you lose your power on a single missed hit...

    As seen beforehand, BHVR hit too hard on the nerf bat. I've faced ONE Legion since the rework and with my own experiences playing the experience is occasionally get one or two decent FF hits and then M1 and see if I get potatos.... Going against skilled Survivors, esp SWF just wrecks any potential to be threatening as a Legion..the best outcome is my Devour Hope getting enough stacks...which...yay....I guess.


    What made Legion immensely fun for me was running around and stabbing everyone, feeling like a shadow darting around and being a fast threat, all of that is gone. So yay *slow claps*

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,384

    I like them!

    But again, some add-ons require tweaking (pins, franks, deep Wound study) and srsly his pallet vaulting seems off.

    I just Hope the new animations or a buff come soon

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,533
    edited May 2019

    From my experience on PS4, this change has not decreased the number of people playing Legion. I see Legion every day. Sometimes several times a day. So the PS4 players at least don't seem to be hating the changes that much.