Im new, and people arent afraid of me. what am i supposed to do?
I already made another post about hooking, so apologies if ive made a little too many posts in little time.
so i catch a guy. i hook him, and the moment i turn around theres 3 guys within reasonable distance. one runs up to unhook, i hit him which doesnt stop the unhooking, they are now both free. (i found out i could grab people that try to unhook, but lets face it, that wouldnt help. another one would just unhook.)
i hit one in the chase, grab him, i get flash lighted.
i chase, i get one, i hit another, 2 down. i grab one, that one wiggle his way out of my grasp instantly? being new i have no idea how that happens, the timer wasnt even up.
he's lose, the other one was helped up.
great back to start. i catch one, i get flash lighted. happens twice.
i hook one, he gets unhooked.
look where im going with this is simple. how do i deal with survivors that dont give a ######### about me and just gangs up on me? my hits are not aoe (although i know some killers have aoe) and i feel like all killers should have aoe hits to deal with all these survivors just ganging up on that hooking pedestrial.
and whats this about them wiggling out of my grasp instantly almost after i pick them up?
and what am i supposed to do about flashlight?
and then sometimes they run to small areas that has a window + a small thing to leap over, could be a half wall or something. something that means its not just running, so im not faster than them. we just run in circles. what do i do? please tell me.
this is not a rant or a complaint, but i feel like i should be in charge when i play the killer, yet im completely at the survivors mercy. if all of them have Flashlights, i have no idea what to do.
ive done moderately well as the Pig, but now im struggling with the Wraith. the chase is decent, albeit not when they vault over stuff and keep a loop. but this ganging up on me, not even caring when i hook one because they get him down instantly? i dont know what to do.
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Welcome to playing a killer in the current meta.11
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@Baphomett said:
Welcome to playing a killer in the current meta.Killers have never been feared at any point in the game. If anything it's a little better now than it has been at any point in the past.
To answer your question OP, learn the Nurse.
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Seems you are going against a lot of SWF (Survive With Friend) groups.
so i catch a guy. i hook him, and the moment i turn around theres 3 guys within reasonable distance. one runs up to unhook, i hit him which doesnt stop the unhooking, they are now both free. (i found out i could grab people that try to unhook, but lets face it, that wouldnt help. another one would just unhook.)
Even if you were able to down the person unhooking, they are most likely running Borrowed Time which gives them another health slate for a short time. Trust me, grabbing the person trying to unhook does help. Take that new survivor to a new hook while the other one gets saved. Each survivor can have a total of 3 hooks before they are dead, so you are making progress!
look where im going with this is simple. how do i deal with survivors that dont give a [BAD WORD] about me and just gangs up on me? my hits are not aoe (although i know some killers have aoe) and i feel like all killers should have aoe hits to deal with all these survivors just ganging up on that hooking pedestrial.
SWF groups will never give a ######### about the killer. The best way to deal with it is to keep a clear head and not let them bother you. Keep hooking them, the more they swarm you and the hooks means the less time they spend working on gens. The Cannibal's chainsaw is very good at AoE downing btw.
and whats this about them wiggling out of my grasp instantly almost after i pick them up?
They have the Decisive Strike perk, it lets them instantly escape the killer's grasp if they manage to hit a very small skill check. But that will only happen once per survivor.
and what am i supposed to do about flashlight?
Flashlight saves are infuriating, I would recommend leveling Hillbilly for his Lightborn perk (big resistance to the flashlight) or Cannibal for the Franklin's Demise perk (hitting a survivor causes them to drop their item). For now though just try to immediately look in a different direction as soon as you are able to.
and then sometimes they run to small areas that has a window + a small thing to leap over, could be a half wall or something. something that means its not just running, so im not faster than them. we just run in circles. what do i do? please tell me.
Try to outsmart them. It will be harder for more experienced survivors, but soon it will become muscle memory for you. The entity will block that window if they keep abusing it too. If they are running around pallets you just have to keep going until you can hit them or make them drop the pallet. You'll get Bloodlust stacks the longer you are in a chase which make you move faster.
ive done moderately well as the Pig, but now im struggling with the Wraith. the chase is decent, albeit not when they vault over stuff and keep a loop. but this ganging up on me, not even caring when i hook one because they get him down instantly? i dont know what to do.
When I play Wraith I always bring a "Windstorm" addon. It will help with survivors who take Sprint Burst and just outrun you as soon as you uncloak. Not every match will be against SWF too, but when it is just keep getting them down and hooking until they are dead. If no one swarms the hook right away, try to check gens and let them save while they are out of your terror radius. That will prevent Borrowed Time from triggering.
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Bring a mori.
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It happens. You can do "lobby dodges" if you feel they are survive with friends. I do that as I know I'm not skilled enough to take any team on at the current point in time. That and I have a big disadvantage since all my characters are underleveled which means most of the add-ons I have are limited.
So, what Spooky said. As MrChills said... you can bring mori's later on which will alleviate the problem big time since you can kill them after 1 hook depending on what mori offering you use.
Last but not least... like mentioned by Manlet you can start growing your skills as a nurse. IMO is a hard one to learn as I'm terrible. I just haven't put the time into it. Hillbilly is a good alternative.
However, I'd just recommend playing the game with a killer you enjoy and lobby dodge swf until there are more viable options.
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@Beardedragon said:
I already made another post about hooking, so apologies if ive made a little too many posts in little time.so i catch a guy. i hook him, and the moment i turn around theres 3 guys within reasonable distance. one runs up to unhook, i hit him which doesnt stop the unhooking, they are now both free. (i found out i could grab people that try to unhook, but lets face it, that wouldnt help. another one would just unhook.)
i hit one in the chase, grab him, i get flash lighted.
i chase, i get one, i hit another, 2 down. i grab one, that one wiggle his way out of my grasp instantly? being new i have no idea how that happens, the timer wasnt even up.
he's lose, the other one was helped up.
great back to start. i catch one, i get flash lighted. happens twice.
i hook one, he gets unhooked.
look where im going with this is simple. how do i deal with survivors that dont give a [BAD WORD] about me and just gangs up on me? my hits are not aoe (although i know some killers have aoe) and i feel like all killers should have aoe hits to deal with all these survivors just ganging up on that hooking pedestrial.
and whats this about them wiggling out of my grasp instantly almost after i pick them up?
and what am i supposed to do about flashlight?
and then sometimes they run to small areas that has a window + a small thing to leap over, could be a half wall or something. something that means its not just running, so im not faster than them. we just run in circles. what do i do? please tell me.
this is not a rant or a complaint, but i feel like i should be in charge when i play the killer, yet im completely at the survivors mercy. if all of them have Flashlights, i have no idea what to do.
ive done moderately well as the Pig, but now im struggling with the Wraith. the chase is decent, albeit not when they vault over stuff and keep a loop. but this ganging up on me, not even caring when i hook one because they get him down instantly? i dont know what to do.
This is DbD, where killers are humiliated, tbagged, insulted, give deaththreats by 90% of survivors, who are little kids with broken ego. Welcome.
Play survivor or suffer with the killer, your choice.
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@Beardedragon said:
I already made another post about hooking, so apologies if ive made a little too many posts in little time.so i catch a guy. i hook him, and the moment i turn around theres 3 guys within reasonable distance. one runs up to unhook, i hit him which doesnt stop the unhooking, they are now both free. (i found out i could grab people that try to unhook, but lets face it, that wouldnt help. another one would just unhook.)
i hit one in the chase, grab him, i get flash lighted.
i chase, i get one, i hit another, 2 down. i grab one, that one wiggle his way out of my grasp instantly? being new i have no idea how that happens, the timer wasnt even up.
he's lose, the other one was helped up.
great back to start. i catch one, i get flash lighted. happens twice.
i hook one, he gets unhooked.
look where im going with this is simple. how do i deal with survivors that dont give a [BAD WORD] about me and just gangs up on me? my hits are not aoe (although i know some killers have aoe) and i feel like all killers should have aoe hits to deal with all these survivors just ganging up on that hooking pedestrial.
and whats this about them wiggling out of my grasp instantly almost after i pick them up?
and what am i supposed to do about flashlight?
and then sometimes they run to small areas that has a window + a small thing to leap over, could be a half wall or something. something that means its not just running, so im not faster than them. we just run in circles. what do i do? please tell me.
this is not a rant or a complaint, but i feel like i should be in charge when i play the killer, yet im completely at the survivors mercy. if all of them have Flashlights, i have no idea what to do.
ive done moderately well as the Pig, but now im struggling with the Wraith. the chase is decent, albeit not when they vault over stuff and keep a loop. but this ganging up on me, not even caring when i hook one because they get him down instantly? i dont know what to do.
Sorry to say that, but in DBD survivors will never be scared of you unless you play the strongest killer, nurse.
In fact the killer has to worry about more stuff than the survivors do
Nurse is quite hard to master though, so I would suggest you start with other, easier killers like hillbilly or doctor.
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@Hillbilly420 said:
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@Beardedragon said:
I already made another post about hooking, so apologies if ive made a little too many posts in little time.so i catch a guy. i hook him, and the moment i turn around theres 3 guys within reasonable distance. one runs up to unhook, i hit him which doesnt stop the unhooking, they are now both free. (i found out i could grab people that try to unhook, but lets face it, that wouldnt help. another one would just unhook.)
i hit one in the chase, grab him, i get flash lighted.
i chase, i get one, i hit another, 2 down. i grab one, that one wiggle his way out of my grasp instantly? being new i have no idea how that happens, the timer wasnt even up.
he's lose, the other one was helped up.
great back to start. i catch one, i get flash lighted. happens twice.
i hook one, he gets unhooked.
look where im going with this is simple. how do i deal with survivors that dont give a [BAD WORD] about me and just gangs up on me? my hits are not aoe (although i know some killers have aoe) and i feel like all killers should have aoe hits to deal with all these survivors just ganging up on that hooking pedestrial.
and whats this about them wiggling out of my grasp instantly almost after i pick them up?
and what am i supposed to do about flashlight?
and then sometimes they run to small areas that has a window + a small thing to leap over, could be a half wall or something. something that means its not just running, so im not faster than them. we just run in circles. what do i do? please tell me.
this is not a rant or a complaint, but i feel like i should be in charge when i play the killer, yet im completely at the survivors mercy. if all of them have Flashlights, i have no idea what to do.
ive done moderately well as the Pig, but now im struggling with the Wraith. the chase is decent, albeit not when they vault over stuff and keep a loop. but this ganging up on me, not even caring when i hook one because they get him down instantly? i dont know what to do.
Sorry to say that, but in DBD survivors will never be scared of you unless you play the strongest killer, nurse.
In fact the killer has to worry about more stuff than the survivors doNurse is quite hard to master though, so I would suggest you start with other, easier killers like hillbilly or doctor.
If they're running DS along with some other bullshit perks like Sprint Burst then they're still not afraid of even the Nurse.
There are very few SWF teams competent enough that they can demolish a good nurse. But yeah, sadly theoretically they can do
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To be honest I didn't read what anyone else wrote, just going to give you my opinion on your topic.
No one is going to be afraid of you. The game has been out for two years, most of the people playing have been desensitized to the whole scare tactic. The only killers that still get a rise out of me is "oo there's a hag trap that blew up in my face" and "T1 Myers."
Flashlight - Do not pick people up if you know the survivors have flashlights on their team. Try to be attentive to the sounds in the environment. Don't play with outside music on and so on. Instead listen, and wait a bit. Trust me you have time, just make sure you're keeping track of the down person. You're listen for the sound of breathing (not the moans of the downed person.) Find the guy with the flashlight, hit him, go back to your downed slug. If flashlight dude sticks around, down him and hook him instead to try to take the flashlight out the game or take franklins and just beat it out of everyone's hand.
Decisive Strike - You can carry a survivor for 2.5 to 3s before DS goes off approximately. 1.3/5 for the rare 3 o'clock skill check. (These numbers aren't exact just my experience with it)After the time frame drop the survivor, pick them up, rinse repeat until they are on a hook. If there is no hook nearby, position with your back to a corner and let them DS off your shoulder and just rehunt them back down.
Now as someone who plays both survivor and killer (more survivor tho) I will tell you from a survivor standpoint that when I look at a killer and decide if I'm going to challenge them or not. (Flashlight, pallet, hook rescues, etc) I tend to look at how predatory or lacking the killer is. A killer that takes people down fast, has a good headset/can hear me breathing tend to command a lot more of my respect and forces both myself and other survivors to give them a wider berth.
The reason I think you're being challenged so much by survivors is because they sense that you are new/not certain of yourself yet. It even happens with "seasoned" killers. I tend to call it Apex Predator Syndrome: It's the killers that have 400+ hours that never turn around/look behind themselves, (for no prey would ever be behind the predator!) never clear an area of flashlight users (for no prey would dare try to save someone with a flashlight!), pick up survivors under unused pallets (you get the idea lol), chase someone that loops them when there's a guy working on the gen right next to them, etc. We all know the type I'm talking about.
As for the window thing, it really depends on what type of windows and ledges you're talking about. Are you talking about the T-windows? If so, T-widows are more about winning the mind game or catching up with BL3. I'm sure I missed a lot of stuff but I'm certain the guys above me probably covered the stuff I forgot.
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Trapper after mid patch too seems good. Swf takes the fear out. Clown is good too, nurse, it takes time to learn how survivors work that has been playing for a while.0
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Also, play with headphones, loud volume. Learn how to scout survivor perks.0
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Try switching to Myers starting out. His power is dependent on keeping people in your line of sight, and many people know this. As a result, they tend to not sit there T-bagging you forever (especially before you get to Evil Within 2) as doing so only lets you draw power off them. This at least creates the illusion you are feared. Additionally, a good Myers is one of the few killers even experienced players get creeped out by.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
Try switching to Myers starting out. His power is dependent on keeping people in your line of sight, and many people know this. As a result, they tend to not sit there T-bagging you forever (especially before you get to Evil Within 2) as doing so only lets you draw power off them. This at least creates the illusion you are feared. Additionally, a good Myers is one of the few killers even experienced players get creeped out by.i have tried Meyers a bit but im uncertain as to really how to play that guy.
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@Beardedragon said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
i have tried Meyers a bit but im uncertain as to really how to play that guy.
Bricky has a great guide on that actually
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Oh ok, try some kyf games. Learn from that you know? And build up your inventory or perks and add ons0
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Check this dude's videos. Watch how he plays the different Killers and practice applying it.
https://www.youtube.com/user/TrU3Ta1ent
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@Kilrane said:
Check this dude's videos. Watch how he plays the different Killers and practice applying it.Tru3 is great for learning intermediate to advanced tricks.
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Just use a lag switch! Nothing is scarier than the ability to stop time!
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Cry. Because that's what the devs consider balanced.
They don't want to give killers any power because new survivors will die too easily, but they aren't afraid of giving survivors god like powers to bully killers.
They need to add some long term consequences to being hit and hooked, like permanent speed debuffs. Getting hit should reduce your action speed by 10% for the first hit and 3% of your current speed for each other hit. Hooking should reduce repair speed by 25% each hook stage.
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@Jack11803 said:
Just use a lag switch! Nothing is scarier than the ability to stop time!I like me. And that’s what matters.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9dg2EZeZf8