Let's Talk - Killer Offerings
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This topic is NOT about balancing Mori's. There are enough topics about that in the forums, don't bring it up here.
Okay. I have a huge problem with the way the killer offerings are set up.
The ONLY secret offerings are Shroud of Separation and moris. How often do people use Shroud of Separation? Not often.
This means that any time the killer offers something that is secret, it is automatically assumed to be a mori. Most people dont even use Cypress moris, so either its an Ebony or an Ivory.
Survivors can't handle the fact that a killer wants to use a mori, so what do they do? They DC or suicide on the hook. This then leaves 1-2 survivors at the end that I, as a nice killer, am then "forced" to let live. Yes, I know that nobody is forcing me to let them live. But if I don't, they are going to chew me out in the pgc about how I didn't let them live even though there were 2-3 DC's.
And of course, my mori has now been wasted. And for some reason the game won't give me very many Ebony's in the bloodweb and the most i've had at once is 3. So now, my round is ruined and my mori is wasted. I just wanted to see a cool animation!
My proposed changes are this:
- change all killer offerings to secret (except bloody party streamers/gruesome gateau)
- not show killer offerings at all
Not both of these need to be done (obviously) but I really think one of them should happen. It is really unfair that the only secret offerings are moris and SOS, but again, nobody uses the shroud. The one thing that is supposed to keep the survivors from knowing its a mori is really the thing that gives it away.
Please let me know what you think and feel free to suggest other changes if mine aren't what you think will fix it.
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So you're telling me I can get a free 4k by using a shroud of separation? Wowzers!
Anyways here are my solutions:
A - Add more secret offerings. Here's a list of offering idea's I've posted, 2 of them are secret Killer offereings:
B - Not show secret offerings at all. Survivors won't see that you even have an offering in the first place.
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The offering that turn you into another killer are secret too.
The shards of whatever
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@Weck yes I forgot about those
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Yes I like the hiding secret offerings completely idea
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Shroud of Separation isn't beneficial to the killer at all. Having four survivors spread out means that you can't pressure more than one of them on gens at a time, and will guarantee that three gens pop on your first chase vs. good survivors.
Killer has a ton of offerings that are just straight trash, like non-The Game map / Mac Millan offerings and useless stuff in the bloodweb.
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balance moris, then actually make them secret
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How would one balance Mori's? Also, this discussion isn't about balancing Mori's. It's about secret offerings.
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require a hook on each survivor before u can mori anyone at the very least. and I know that, but I wouldn't be okay with more secret offerings if moris remain how they are now.
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If moris required 2 hooks, people wouldn't DC. Make it base kit at 2 hooks + a down and it would be exactly what it was intended, a cool animation without being so game changing as removing 1/3(really 2/3 since most people who use moris literally stand there waiting for the unhook) of their requirements. And by this I mean ebonies. Ivorys aren't as bad, but being 1 hooked is stupid.
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Okay this topic has gotten away from the main idea. Yes I think Mori's aren't what they should be and people abuse them.
I don't really see these toxic Mori users and I typically hook + leave to find someone else, then if I find the hooked survivor later then I'll get them.
Besides, killing everyone early or tunneling until death doesn't award BP. And I know, "those people don't care about the bp". I do, so I'm just saying that people DCing early because of a Mori ruins my experience and BP gain.
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Can we remove the fog-increasing offerings from the Killer side? I can't imagine why a Killer would ever use one.
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Stealth killers might want them to make them harder to see (ghosty, pig, micheal)
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Ghostface would not want it to be harder to stalk Survivors, Pig would not want it to be harder to see through grass while crouched, and Myers doesn't really get benefit past Tier 1.
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As far as I'm aware, the fog doesn't make a difference on ghostface's stalking. Pig doesn't get cold wind maps 100% of the time anyway.
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That one I will give you. I still do not think the offerings are worth it when they are a liability to around ~75% of the cast, though.
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I made a thread a long time ago giving out some ideas for more secret offerings, so I absolutely agree! A few I made were more shrouds that affected survivors’ spawns to lean more towards yourself, and some that messed with the EGC timer. Offerings should do much more than just give you more points. It would make the game so much more predictable!
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Maybe survivors leave/give up because, oh idk, moris are not balanced?
I don't blame them.
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