[Thoughts] The Game should be balanced around Rank 1
I will give my point of view after 1600 hours.
I think today after 2 years and as the developers said, the game is currently balanced for rank 20. Now comes my point of view if I had been a developer.
Since there are many complaints of the killers and in truth, there are many things to improve the game: (Many pallets still, unbalanced maps, perks, garbage killers ....) currently ranges 20 that have around 100-300 hours even fewer hours, you could say that they are learning to play, to improve you need many more hours and if you really like the game keep playing until you get to be better. If I were a developer, I would stop balancing the game for ranks 20, why? They are starting to play, feeling new to the game, they do not really know what to do when a murderer follows them, they follow their intuition, they run and as they have pallets they are all thrown away ... They do not really need a balanced game, they need to learn and be defeated, because when they play enough to the game they will reach rank 1 with a pretty good level and if the game at that point should be balanced.
The rolling should not be given to a range 20 that takes in the game 1-2 days or 1 month of play, although protest ... and say: FREDDY IS BROKEN! NERF ... because it's not like that. Or also: We need more pallets because we do not have enough to withstand the killer: EITHER! There are few for ranges 20 but MANY for rank 1 ... and the pallets should be reduced even more.
I do not know if you understand what I'm trying to say, but this game should change your thinking, and turn the game over to Rank 1, where it should be balanced and NOT to Ranks 20.
That is all.
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@RemoveSWF said:
Balancing for Rank 20 is why people de-rank to play at Rank 20.Maybe BHVR should deal with that issue rather than threatening players and changing the game so Rank 15 is the new mimimum.
Actually, there are very "bad" players in ranges 20, but instead the pip and de-rank system there are pretty good players in ranges 20. This is a big problem too.
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@RemoveSWF said:
Balancing for Rank 20 is why people de-rank to play at Rank 20.Rank 20 players are the ones where they quit playing the game after getting destroyed in the first few hours, leaves a negative review on steam and proceed to talk crap about DBD
from the recent PTB development by the Devs I am starting to see a new light that they are finally trying to balance the game around high rank, cuz at Rank 20 all those new players won't have any tier 3 perks anyway
the Devs should do more tournaments to show more balance of the game, and balance it around that provided with the feedback from high ranked
so time will change
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yes and no. balancing this game for rank 1 will kill the casual players and wont bring any new players.
i do think that they should make somehow a change in gameplay so it get much more harder to play survivor after you get better at the game.2 -
@Someissues said:
@RemoveSWF said:
Balancing for Rank 20 is why people de-rank to play at Rank 20.Rank 20 players are the ones where they quit playing the game after getting destroyed in the first few hours, leaves a negative review on steam and proceed to talk crap about DBD
from the recent PTB development by the Devs I am starting to see a new light that they are finally trying to balance the game around high rank, cuz at Rank 20 all those new players won't have any tier 3 perks anyway
the Devs should do more tournaments to show more balance of the game, and balance it around that provided with the feedback from high ranked
so time will change
We will have to wait really with the patches of Mid Balance, in September we will have new DLC and then we will have another patch of balance I hope that in that patch more things come so that the game is truly balanced.
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How about we meet halfway and balance the game at rank 5-8?
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@switch said:
yes and no. balancing this game for rank 1 will kill the casual players and wont bring any new players.
i do think that they should make somehow a change in gameplay so it get much more harder to play survivor after you get better at the game.i full on agree with you. that kind of balance would destroy most ppl.... i'd much rather struggle at killing than struggle to find a ******* lobby....
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@akbays35 said:
How about we meet halfway and balance the game at rank 5-8?thats not a bad idea. but i was thinking around 9 - 12.... thats where the gen-rush becomes real as hell....
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I want to see how the next Rank reset will be for players now that more people will be at Rank 1-10.1
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@BoxingRouge said:
I want to see how the next Rank reset will be for players now that more people will be at Rank 1-10.Yep that will really spice things up
@Th3Nightmare said:
We will have to wait really with the patches of Mid Balance, in September we will have new DLC and then we will have another patch of balance I hope that in that patch more things come so that the game is truly balanced.Yep same here
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@deadwolfwalking said:
@akbays35 said:
How about we meet halfway and balance the game at rank 5-8?thats not a bad idea. but i was thinking around 9 - 12.... thats where the gen-rush becomes real as hell....
the game though really needs map fixes more than anything and buff/qol for the lower tier killers. If you listen to killer streams they have issues with the maps more that the players/game mechanics. I myself am learning to hate the random rng of the maps some have like half the pallets they need and others have twice the amount, some maps have really lame dead zones with nothing in them.
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yeah. maps are a MAJOR issue. this game shouldn't be so unbalanced to the point that ppl 'get truly excited' just because they get a particular map. i understand having a preference.... but a map shouldn't be such a severe hinderence for killers nor survivors....
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@switch said:
yes and no. balancing this game for rank 1 will kill the casual players and wont bring any new players.
i do think that they should make somehow a change in gameplay so it get much more harder to play survivor after you get better at the game.Exactly. Both sides, killers and survivors, when they are new, they tend to run. The base speed of the killer is more than the base speed of the survivor and in rank 20 since people don't have a plan or don't understand the importance of the windows and the pallets, they easily get downed.
First of all, they should create a system that allows you to watch high rank matches. At least in this way, people will learn a couple of tricks. I learned more by watching zubat playing survivor for 3 hours than playing it by myself for 30 hours. The new tutorials are good but lackluster.
Secondly, they should make killers more complicated. Just please for the love of god take a look at leatherface. You move with w, you hit people with m1 and if you have the opportunity to use chainsaw, you use your m2 and unleash your power. They could not make any other easier killer than leatherface. This game can not be balanced around leatherface no matter what. This killer does not require skill or intelligence. You just play him.
They need to give high ranks more rewards for playing the game so that it will convince people to rank up. Maybe just like level, they can give more shards? And as you rank up for the average rank there needs to be less pallets or windows or whatever. The match duration is too short to even enjoy the game.
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@Th3Nightmare said:
I think today after 2 years and as the developers said, the game is currently balanced for rank 20.This is clearly false.
In any case, you know what happens when you balance a game only around the top players? That the newer ones will quit in frustration. I already know a couple people that stopped playing because their start was too rough... that would just happen on a bigger scale and only the top players would remain. That's how you kill a game.
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@White_Owl said:
@Th3Nightmare said:
I think today after 2 years and as the developers said, the game is currently balanced for rank 20.This is clearly false.
In any case, you know what happens when you balance a game only around the top players? That the newer ones will quit in frustration. I already know a couple people that stopped playing because their start was too rough... that would just happen on a bigger scale and only the top players would remain. That's how you kill a game.
New players endure while players over 2k hours are frustrated by the unbalanced game and stop playing ...
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@White_Owl said:
@Th3Nightmare said:
I think today after 2 years and as the developers said, the game is currently balanced for rank 20.This is clearly false.
In any case, you know what happens when you balance a game only around the top players? That the newer ones will quit in frustration. I already know a couple people that stopped playing because their start was too rough... that would just happen on a bigger scale and only the top players would remain. That's how you kill a game.
Actually, I know what you're referring to, and you should really see an intermediate balance.
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At the end of the day, you balance games around the mainstream average buyer.
The average buyer for dbd is really bad at the game and plays at rank200 -
@Th3Nightmare said:
@White_Owl said:
@Th3Nightmare said:
I think today after 2 years and as the developers said, the game is currently balanced for rank 20.This is clearly false.
In any case, you know what happens when you balance a game only around the top players? That the newer ones will quit in frustration. I already know a couple people that stopped playing because their start was too rough... that would just happen on a bigger scale and only the top players would remain. That's how you kill a game.
New players endure while players over 2k hours are frustrated by the unbalanced game and stop playing ...
Statistically Only 1% of players can get rank 1. Also, they already paid money for most dlc and the game. They could totally be ditched and it’d hurt much less than making the rank 20 majority want to leave
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