The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
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(New here, not sure that is the right category) I have about 15 hrs. in the game and I got it because my friends wanted to play something with me. They tried to explain with the new patch that came out, I would be forced to play against killers that were way past my skill level if I played with them.They have tried showing me the ropes but I get immediately found and destroyed every game I play with them. I keep hearing to "loop" but I can't learn when killers phase to me or teleport on my face. I tried solo queue at rank 17 and everyone hides and I sit on hook until i'm dead. I actually wish I could refund the game because if I get punished for playing with my friends so I can learn, new players won't stay. I don't believe I have escaped once, even in solo against rank 20 killers. They still kill everyone. Is killer that strong? I genuinely would love to know because if so, I won't waste my time on this game.
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if you're brand new to the game, and just starting out as survivor, killers will seem strong for a while. it takes learning the maps and how to loop before killers dont seem too op. have you played killer at all by chance?
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Killer besides of 2 special killers is overall weaker then survivors but on low ranks with ppl that dont know how to play the Killers seems alot stronger. But your friend did started completly wrong with you. They should play a private game with you and show you everything you need to know. Dbd is a competetiv game without any "newcomer" mode or something else, so that is normal that you get killers that already know way more then you.
But overall that is true, you get punished by playing with survivors that are already in the higher ranks, you should watch a guide or someone should show you the basics and then you have to learn the game by trial and error.
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No, I got this game to play with my friends but they are in the high ranks, like 2 or 3 i believe. When i play with them, I only get killers who slug or come after me when I get unhooked. I tried to play solo but that also sucked. Maybe I should try killer? I just wanted to get the game for my friends =(
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It is because you don't know how to play. Your friends can show you stuff in a Custom Game and teach you how to loop.
You can also go check out some YouTube videos on how to do so. They will give you tips.
There is a big learning curve in this game.
You should also play killer so you understand how they play. It also helps you learn what each killer can do and how they will find and chase you.
This game is about winning chases, so if you can't win chases you won't escape.
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i understand, it can be frustrating with how they made playing with friends works. and i do suggest playing killer. when you play killer, you'll learn what the killer sees and how they play, and maybe understand the mistakes you made as a survivor.
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@KittKatt At lower ranks, the killer is strong because survivors are still learning, don't yet know how to loop, et cetera.
At higher ranks, if a Killer goes against a survivor, especially a SWF, of equal skill level, then the Killer is in a bad spot. A single mistake can screw up their entire match.
All that said, Dead by Daylight is extremely New Player Unfriendly. There's a solid reason why, at least on PC where we can track numbers via Steamcharts, it fails to retain new players. Every free weekend, the numbers drop back down to normal afterward. Every 50% off sale, the numbers drop back down to normal a week or two later. DbD has remained pretty much flat in terms of new player retention for over a year now.
And for very good reason.
Unfortunately, there are only two options as a new player.
One: Chew glass and get put through the meat grinder repeatedly for your first 100-200 hours of play time as you grind out Perks, learn the maps, learn how to loop, learn the various Perk combinations that the killer might run and what they do, and more.
Two: Find a different game to play with your friends. A game a bit easier for new players to get into.
One of those options leads to fun and maintaining your sanity, the other does not.
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Welcome 🤗
Both killer and survivor take time to learn. Game is not friendly to new players. Don't get upset if you die to the killer or cannot catch any survivors at first. Focus on learning the maps and where to run if found.
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@Mookywolf I have heard to play killer to see it from their perspective but the thing is, I only have gone against killers that just appear in my face. I haven't even seen a demogorgon yet. The spirit. I played against about 20 spirits. Welcome to Dead by Daylight. Where killers magically appear in your face. I like to think i'm a decent gamer that can catch on fast but man, play with your friends and get killers above your skill cap. Play solo and every one of your teammates hide and let you die. It's frustrating.
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tbh you won't learn anything being carried by your friends. The rank change was made to avoid red-rank SWF players using their rank 20 friends to force high discrepancies in MM and be able to "bully squad" baby killers (that's dumb, you should get stomped sometimes early on to get a perspective of what you'll face at red ranks). Sadly (not for me because i like this kind of thing), DBD is a game that requires time investment to be fully enjoyed, i suggest you take some time and look for tutorials on how to play.
There's this guy:
His tips are targetd to new players.
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@Maníaco_da_garrafa But isnt forcing baby survivors like me to go against higher skilled killers the same thing? I mean people shouldnt be punished for wanting to play with their friends or am I completely off? I'm new to this game and I dont understand it fully but whether it's killers getting bullied or survivors... both are learning and shouldn't get bullied.
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@Maníaco_da_garrafa Interesting, I hadn't check PainReliever's channel before.
I knew him from Overwatch. He created the most popular Overwatch Dead by Daylight mode in the workshop. I've started playing it more frequently over there, and found it more fun and less frustrating than real Dead by Daylight. 🤣
I assumed he was a DbD vet to have created the Overwatch workshop mode so damned well, but never took the time to verify my assumption.
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I mean if it helps in any way, though I could imagine you know this already. But as soon as you hear the whooshing sound that Spirit makes when she is phasing and close enough to you, be prepared for her to appear out of nowhere and try and hide or gain distance from the gen you are working on if you are working on a gen.
If you hear her heartbeat though, you won't hear the phasing sound Spirit makes.
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I am still learning things after 1700 hours. DBD can be brutal but you can die/lose as killer and still earn a ton of points, which you can use to get better perks.
There are many Twitch streamers playing DBD and I would suggest you watch what they do for tips.
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There's nothing wrong with not liking a game. Everyone won't like every game. Play a little more; follow some advice, and if it still isnt fun for you, just quit. There are better ways to enjoy life. 😊
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You're only being forced to play against high rank killers bc you're playing with hi'rank survivors in Survive with friends, and SWF tends to give survivors an advantage with comms.
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the way it used to work if you played in a group as survivors was it would TRY to put you with a killer of average rank. but the problem with this was the killer wouldnt know the survivor's ranks. the killer didnt know they were facing say a rank 3 and a rank 20. the killer had no clue, and no choice.
but as a survivor, you are choosing to play with your higher ranked friend and facing higher ranked killers. its not a perfect system and it definitely needs work, but its better for people to choose playing with higher ranked friends knowing the risk, than a player be randomly screwed over without knowing.
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I watched a couple streamers last night and I'm trying to understand but even watching them the one guy killed a rank 18 and he was a rank 1 killer and complained its not fun bullying baby survivors. My friends offered to make alt accounts or rank down to help me but that's a lot of work for just me. I hope they make it so new players, killer or survivor have a better experience cause you need a flow of players, as with any game
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Here's the thing. Because you're new and your friends aren't, the old matchmaking would put you all against someone like you but in the killer role. That killer is by themselves with no one to help them. You at least have friends that can attempt to take agro for you.
To me it comes down to choice. You have a choice to play together with friends knowing it will be against higher skill killers vs a killer with no indication of what rank the survivors they are facing are.
But there are still issues with matchmaking that need to be sorted. Rank 20-15 should be for new players but is not atm.
I know you want to play with your friend, I get that. But its your friends that need to take some responsibility for bring you to matches above your skill. It's still better than teaming up with 3 randoms who are the same rank as you.
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I'd recomend playing killer, you'll get owned the first 10 games, don't camp or tunnel, you're learning, REMEMBER it doesn't matter if you loose, DON'T CAMP OR TUNNEL, your objective is to LEARN.
By doing this you'll get to know what killers do and how they see (scratchmarks, 1st person view, etc.) or play, remember to play using common killers for you to know how to counter them when you're a survivor. If a survivor owns you PAY ATTENTION! YOU CAN LEARN WHAT HE DID TO YOU AND USE IT LATER ON EITHER AS A KILLER OR SURVIVOR!
REMEMBER your objective is to SURVIVE, not to do gens, apply this knowledge when playing solo, if your team ain't doing ######### just do things to get BP (safe unhooks, do totems, fix gens without poping them, hide from killer to get bold BP, heal others) and escape via hatch after they all have been killed.
You'll be fine when playing with your high rank friends, they suck at the game if they can't carry you whyle you are on your learning process by taking hits or the killer's attention, I offer to teach and carry you if you want along with my usual team, Xbox (I don't know what platform you're on).
REMEMBER YOU'RE ON A LEARNING CURVE, ANY MULTIPLAYER GAME WITH TOXIC PLAYERS WILL MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE THIS THW FIRST 25 AVERAGE HOURS OF GAMEPLAY.
Do you play COD, Fortnite or Apex? If you do, do you remember your first hours in those games?
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Watch No0b3 on YT, he'll entertain you whyle you learn a thing or two about the game.
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on the new map you dont have to worry about any mind game just spam space and drop every singel pallet you see. Even as killer all you gotta do is hold W and get blodlust on the new map and it gets ez. they are apparently doing this on every map potentially
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Okay...
Contrary to your friends beliefs there is another tactic you can use, STEALTH.
Start working on Claudette, Nea and Feng.
My red rank build;
-Selfcare (Claudette)
-Lithe (Feng)
-Urban evasion (the entity...Nea)
-Spinechill (random)
Basically remember to crouch and try to use covers to break LoS ans focus on fixing gen and destroy totems.
When you are a bit better at hidding and sneaking around. That you have a few more perks on a survivor you feel confortable with, you can try to work on getting better at looping.
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ewwww Self care... Don't you mean Inner Strenght?
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No.
Selfcare is one of the best perk around. If you can live without it good for you but I can't.
I'm not going to hope someone is around to heal me, I'm going to do it myself.
"It take like 15s and Makes you useless"
Okay and someone healing you take like 10s and require 2 survivors to do nothing but healing instead of just one.
In SWF it can be useful but solo plays is much better to get selfcare.
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Learn in custom games with your friends, that's much better than going into a ranked match with an experienced killer. Don't give up on the game just yet
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That's why I said "Inner Strenght", 8 seconds heal whyle hiding with no moans nor need of another player and gives you 1000 to 1500 BP for the totem + 400 healing BP, what's not to like?
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@Jonathanskilz I dont even know what bloodlust is.
@Mr_K Playing with my friends, which is why I bought the game shouldn't be a punishment though. I get they should help me but it seems like the minute i'm found, i'm taken out of the game. Low hanging fruit I suppose. I got the game for my friends. Choosing to play with them and spend my limited gaming time with them is the reason i bought the game. I bought the game before the changes went into effect, the day after Stanger Things released. Had I known playing it with them would be a punishment, i wouldnt of bought it. I just dont want them to lose their rank and DC to go to green and yellow ranks because they dont want me bullied. Even killers that are rank 20 destroy all of us when in solo queue. They are learning too, right? I can't catch a break.
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a new player probably doesnt know where totems spawn though. and until they learn a few, inner strength will be luck based. self care can be used any time anywhere.
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Don't you mean "second wind" bc I'm pretty sure "Inner strenghts" just makes you quiet when injured.
And "Second wind" requires you to unhook, fully heal someone, break a totem and then heal after something like 30s.
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Thats the new concept of BHVR: dont dare playing an online multiplayer game together with your friends.
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I am leveling up Meg because sprint burst and adrenaline. I was going to get claudette leveled next but I never heard of inner strength. Is that a paid character cause I dont have any of that yet
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It's true for new players against NEW killers, experienced killers (green to red) know how to headphones, if you get what I mean. For experienced players Self Care is a "wasting survivor's time" perk, You hook one, slug one and hurt one, which means there is one survivor who can get the heal/unhook whyle the injured one will be giving you free 15 seconds to either hit gens, find the moaning one or chase the 4th uninjured survivor
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Nope, Inner Strenght: Cleanse a totem, get hit, hide in locker, no sound, 8 seconds heal.
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Okay no it is called "inner strenght" but requires to go through all the steps I mentionned.
So count the time it takes you to do all that and then count how long it take to heal with selfcare.
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Like I said above see how long all that take.
Also, if there's 2 or 3 hexes there's only like 4 dull totems on the map. Which mean a maximum of 4 uses.
Selfcare is unlimited and doesn't require totems or a locker to be activated.
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The issue is, you view it as punishment. Not every killer at low ranks is a noob. If you weren't with your friends you would be with hide in locker Dwight or Urban immersed Meg.
I get you, it sucks being the 1st one killed. But what I'm telling you it could be the same or worse as solo. Like I said before, this game is not good at onloading new players. There is just too much to know right off the bat. Learn from your mistakes a build up to being a good player. We've all been there. Blowing up gens and throwing pallets on the wrong side.
No shame in hiding at the start of the match. Wait for your friends to say the killer is near them to take off towards a gen.
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Self Care:
- Makes you heal in 32 seconds
- You moan
- You are exposed to being found either by moans or nurse's calling
- 300 BP for the heal
Inner Strenght:
- 14 seconds of cleansing totem + 8 of hiding in a locker = 22 seconds
- No loud moans in locker
- You're hiding
- You're getting rid of hexes and or NOED
- 1000-1500 BP for totem/Hex + 400 BP for healing = 1400-1900 total BP
- Catch: Learn totem spawn points or use small game (perk also usefull against freddy, hag, demogorgon and trapper)
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I remember my first game. I immediately got facecamped by a clown and Die first hook. Lmao I didn’t touch DBD for 6-7 months I even deleted the game and forgot about it until a friend who played on pc asked did anyone have It PS4 Then i remembered that this game still existed. I decided to watch DBD streamers and got drastically better with a week after reinstalling the game.
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You still moan in lockers.
You cannot use it more than a certain amount of times.
You require other perks just to make 1 perk viable.
Also, with selfcare you can leave yourself at 99% healed and surprise the killer.
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Yep, little moans vs screams. Try it out, I'm not saying Self Mend is useless I used to run it all the time, but now in red ranks I changed to IS, I swear to god it is amazing and wuite a difference when you use it, have in mind I defended SM with all my heart, but it's true, the average self heals per game is 2, there are 5 totems in game and hiding in a locker is way safer than healing out in the open and also Nurse's calling does not locate the locker heal. I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying I actually changed my SM for IS and I get to heal all the times I want, I run Small Game, Quick and Quiet, Inner Strenght and Spine Chill, I get to survive 4/5 games both in solo and SWF purple to red rank all the time.
Edit: SM only helps yourself, whyle IS helps you get rid of NOED, RUIN, etc.
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Take your time playing solo and try not to get frustrated. When I started, I was always the first to die for a while. I used the opportunity to spectate the rest of the game and watch what my teammates were doing and try to learn from it. I read on the wiki about the powers of the killers I had just played against, about the perks they were using and the perks other survivors were using. I watched Twitch streams. There's a lot to learn at first.
Then it slowly started getting better. I made it to rank 16-15 before my first rank reset. Next season I made it to 12. In the beginning it's tough because the game keeps throwing different killers at you and you don't even know what their powers do and how to counter them.
I'm still nowhere near a good survivor. I suck at looping. I prefer stealth and tailor my builds around it. Putting together a build can be quite fun once you get a couple perks to play with. Meta doesn't work for everyone.
I think it's actually a good idea if your friends are willing to get alt accounts but do what you're comfortable with.
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They have already started ranking down, leaving games, etc... They went from red ranked to 7 and 8 and said they shouldnt have to make new accounts to play a game with me. I don't want babied but the time I have (limited) I want to have fun with my friends, not randoms. Its why I bought the game, you know? I don't mind dying while i'm learning, in fact i expect it but not being tunneled out of the game against a killer who clearly can see im clueless is just not fun. Why wouldn't an experienced killer target the bad player on the team, i get it. Common sense. Its still not a fun experience. I will take all the advice i got here and try to use it to get a bit better. Thank you for everyone's comments and advice <3
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The official DBD school provides classes and other info that may be useful to you. You’d have to find #dbd-school in there, be sure to read the instructions and you’ll be all set!
I’d post the invite code, but forums on the phone are being a bit tricky. You can find it attached to various DBD social media.
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The "Custom Game" mode which some people already mentioned might be the actual solution to the problem. It used to be called "Kill Your Friends" for a reason. You don't even need a full team of 5 players. No randoms, no tunneling, no camping, no Spirit.
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This game is really hard to learn on your own. I was playing like a potato even after playing for 200-300 hours. Then I watched some youtubers play the game and quickly learned how to loop etc. So my suggestion is go watch some youtubers/streamers to learn how to play.
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You are pkaying with friends, experienced ones as a part of a team of 4 vs a single individual, the killer.
Are you really suggesting it's OK that your experienced friends to face weaker killers?
Baby killers, alone, have been bullied for years in this game, at least you have a choice.
Learn the game from the start rather than expecting the single player to be bullied to oblivion
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There are only ever 5 totems on any given map.
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@DBDbuildsYT Again I choose to play with my friends. I didnt buy this game for a solo survivor experience. I bought it to play and have fun with my friends. I dont feel its fair for me, as a new survivor to be punished by red ranked spirits who leave everyone on the ground simply because i want to play and learn from my friends. I also dont think killers should get bullied. The point is there isn't a happy medium but like i was told, who cares about the other sides fun, right? As long as you're having fun? Thats all people care about in the game. If a rank 1 sees i'm new, clearly... they dont care about me escaping or having a good time in the video game. Why should I care how fun the killers experience is if my friends derank to teach me the game. They can also make new accounts... the system is flawed. If this becomes a solo queue game, it will die. People play with friends. They dont want me to suffer so they are dropping their rank. Is it ideal? No. Not many other options really.
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Play alone because with your friends u will be matched vs killers with a lot of experience.
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My daughter got the game when it was free on ps4. Trying to be the involved parent i asked for a turn. Tried 2 or 3 games and told her never again. Then decided to play killer. As og freddy. Didn't know about having to put people to sleep. That was bad too. Played sparingly for a couple of months because i loved the concept just hated the game.
Then kinda started to figure things out. Watched some videos. Learned killer powers from playing them still cant play survivor for crap, and for killer im meh.
Never had a group to play with so every que for me is solo. Probably why i main killer.
Your friends need to do a custom game with you for awhile rather than rank down. Let you run around the maps, learn where to hide. Maybe figure out some totem spots. Throw you against ruin so you can learn to work through that. You wont be a pro but give it a dozen or so games like that and you will have a foundation to build skills on.
As for perks, sprint burst is good if you know where you are running to. Adrenaline is useless if you cant make it to end game. Beginner perks really should be working on Claudette for self care and the one where you see injured team mates. The aura info is great if you ever go solo. Then i suggest nea for urban evasion and balanced landing. Some maps balanced is near auto win against most killers not named nurse. Pick up spine chill or premonition. Kindred if you can find it is great for low rank solo. Most new players are scared and if they see the killer isn't near you they will be more likely to help you.
Ultimately balancing matchmaking isnt easy with no perfect answer. For awhile i wpuld get games against 1 rank 18 and then 3 purple and red ranks. Id get destroyed. To the point where i quit playing killer because it wasnt fun. So i do understand where you are coming from. Just really need to invest in the learning curve. It's almost like work sometimes. Without a paycheck.
Sorry for the novel of text.
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