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Why are they nerfing Nurse at all?
This is ridiculous. The community in general is pretty sensitive about nurse and I know they said it's a "slight" change but I've put my hours in add on less and so have most good to great Nurse players.
I'm okay with nerfing stuff like Omega blink and 3 blink.(5 blink is bad and a funny joke, 3 blink is more OP). I get it some survivor who never even touched Killer or Nurse is gonna run in and say she deserves it but no, base Nurse is fine and this is something that if not handled EXTREMELY well could cause a lot of people to quit dbd.
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The real question should be " why they are nerfing her now and not years ago?" In these years when i was playing against a nurse i have always said " oh here another unskilled kid"
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Take a deep breath. Everything is going to be okay.
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So you've never touched Nurse in your life that's cool dude. Give her a chance.
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“Adapt and overcome.”
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I play nurse a lot and still think she needed to be nerfed. She should have been nerfed a long time ago.
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I would honestly be very surprised if any "slight base kit adjustments" to Nurse are anything else than very slight. Not sure what it could be, but it seems like the focus is heavily placed on her add-ons. And from what they've shown all we know is that it seems omegablink is gone, her weird and underused greens and purples are getting some changes, and some rarities are getting swapped around.
For +blink addons I'd imagine they're probably to eliminate the "no downsides" 3/4 blink loadouts, or perhaps making some level of +blink an ultra-rare (as then they wouldn't have to change the 3 blink grab achievement!)
For the basekit stuff? Guess there's no real way to know what they have in mind. Gonna have to tell the doomsday prophets that act like she's getting a 20 second blink cooldown or something to chill and wait until we know more though, I don't see them ever straight up gutting Nurse 😄
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It makes zero sense, nerfing Nurse is only relevant in high level play and there are way bigger balance problems at higher ranks than Nurse. They haven't even released any statistics that would support this nerf. Hag has a higher killrate than nurse.
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If Nurse still isn't the best killer in the game after nerfs, guess survs can enjoy a spirit meta even more than it already is. I play 50/50 killer/surv. Nobody wants to face only spirit and no nurse. Sometimes Billy.
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Its because it was needed since years. Even though her basekit isnt fine ignoring nearly all game mechanics without any downside.
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plot twist: she's receiving a Nerf cause cross- play can happened... It's alot console survivors saying I don't want to face a PC Nurse let this sink in
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The chief complaint on these forums (especially last summer) has been about how powerless the Nurse's current mechanics and add-on's make survivors feel. Albeit her add-on's have needed a balance update for a long time; I've said it before and I'll say it again:
If the changes the devs make to the Nurse result in dropping her top tier viability, then the only thing the devs will have accomplished is changing the frequency of posts in the forums from "Nurse OP, PLZ Nerf" to "Spirit/Hilbilly OP, PLZ Nerf" because they'll have taught the complainers that if they whine enough... they can take down a Top Tier killer.
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This is extremely true. I already know spirit is very likely to be nerfed with how things are going. Survs spend more money, so surv mains who've never played killer once will probably always get their wish.
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This is not about survivors complaining. Her addons are very very broken. Even the top streamers never use 3 blinks because of how broken they are. She won't lose her top tier if the changes are actually slight changes.
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To have more counters maybe?
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Tall-poppy-syndrome and survivor whining.
Cant have the other killers raised , NAY
"We MUST nerf the best killers. By the way, buff solo to swf level" - survivors
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Because you can't bully her. And, ya know, when survivor mains can't bully killers, it's tragedy 🙄
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That's probably why the people who've been getting a lot of thing's changed entire goal is to make alot of people quit. I wonder if the dev's even realize whats going on. Most of the changes toward killers are strange I can see alot of people being put off by it.
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Killers have been complaining for years and EVERY single aspect of survivors have been nerfed.
Survivors want broken addons reworked and it's immediately called whining. Stop being biased.
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Everyone is fine with the broken add-ons being changed. What people are afraid of is the "tweak" to her base-power. Because Behaviour won't give any information, and they are known for overdoing things, and nerfing them into the ground (Old Freddy, Legion, Mettle of Man), the assumption is justified that Nurse will be completely gutted and no longer be the Queen of Killers.
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So why haven't Survivors?
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I think the changes are really going to be small in this case because the backlash would be huge. I mostly play survivor and even I would be very upset if they made her trash. I'm expecting things like making her fatique slightly longer when they say slight changes.
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Won't matter once we move to dedicated servers.
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slight change doesn't mean nerf, it could be a buff for all we know.
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An add-on rework doesn’t make it a nerf.
You don’t need add-on’s on nurse for her to be good.
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Spirit is fine, shes A tier and you can outplay her with iron will. Nurse on the other hand not.
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It's still a nerf to her maximum potential if they for example add "more charge time" to her range addons.
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I don't think many people have issues with her addon rework it's just the fact that the devs said that they MIGHT tweak her base kit.
I'm completely fine with her base kit, I just despise going again a 3+ blink Nurse because it's extremely unfun and the Nurse will have multiple chances to correct their blink if they fail.
2 blinks are usually fine because if I do play Nurse which are only for dailies then my first blink it for distance mainly to catch up and my second is a small correction if I fall too short.
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It's exactly like you said: base nurse is fine, i don't care about her addons either. IF they really touch her base, i think i will change to spirit or plague, depending on how heavy her base nerfs will be.
Remember, to play base nurse effectively on R1 you need to put many hours in nurse only.
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You're lucky it took this long. Probably should've happened a long time ago. I think they're really gonna focus on Spirit though.
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A harsh nerf to nurse means top tier swf groups get dodged because there is no other killer capable of dealing with them. That's all.
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Maybe they're just adjusting the counters against her? (Pallets stuns etc..)
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Maybe
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I dont think the nurse is for unskilled kids. Actually I found her quire difficult to play. What annoys me more is more add ons that would have an advantageous effect on her also reduce her numbers of blinks by one - I have hundreds of these sitting unused in my inventory and probably never will use them. Dont know why they think she needs a nerv.... she might need some fine tuning but so do some of the other killers.
Having perks or add ons on killers that can cross the entire map in 3-4 s allow wallhack capabilites across the map ? Give. Me. A. Break. This should be nerfed ! According to the small game nerv for survivors that modified trap detection from the outline to a bare acoustic indication. Having killers give add ons that deny them eny detection capabilities like the silent mode for spirit ? OMG.
And one of the biggest crutches for killers since the laser sharp 4k vision across 80 % of the map was introduced with the new unreal engine is scratch marks which have completely lost justification in the game.
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The problem is that any slight change could be very detrimental to her base kit. She already has two blinks, neither of which go far. So what are they going to change? Charge time would make it even easier to counter her. Fatigue, while it wouldn’t hurt as much as range or charge, is already at a decent level. I can’t think of a minor change that wouldn’t really hurt her.
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Yeah okay bud. Jump into 1.0 with me and I’ll show you how much they’ve overcome.
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None of that refutes what I said, and the post you linked literally says you should not base anything off those stats alone. If they have updated stats, show hags killrate, comparing nurse to one of the worse killers in the game that still manages to get a 60% kill rate says nothing.
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Nurse does need some nerfs tbh. Her addons make her pretty much un-stoppable, and they've already said it's only for the addons, not base nurse. let's just wait and see what the changes are, because she does need changes.
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Someone with a Spirit avatar claiming Nurse is for "unskilled kids"...
Oh the irony. ;)
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I hope that they make the range add-ons decrease blink movement speed. I play nurse a lot and I've always said that the range add-ons need to be adjusted, since they don't just increase range, they also increase movement speed and technically charge speed.
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I mean it'll be weird, especially muscle memory wise if it's some sort of blink-mechanical change (charge rate, range, movement speed in blink or anything else) but the very nature of her power means that as long as it is actually a slight alteration and not approaching "rework" territory, she'll still be #1 by default.
I genuinely have no clue what they have in mind, which is why personally I'll just wait and see. And Nurse is my 2nd or 3rd most played killer, so I'll have my own share of muscle memory to tweak if they change something like that 😄
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@Tzeentchling9 They do and they have.
They have received nerfs on various “broken” issues.
This has nothing to do with survivor complaint. It has to do with something that is broken.
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If they make her better as a noob friendly killer im all for it
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hey... just dont. nurse addons are the ones getting changed. dont be sad.
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Strong, not broken. She might seem broken when an experienced nurse plays a bunch of randoms but she has her work cut out when its a top tier SWF team. Genrushing, all four running dead hard (3 hits to take them down), actually knowing how to juke. She is far from deserving of a nerf. All you are accomplishing is hello to more spirits, the exact opposite of what you should want
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This company is not subtle at all, I'm predicting a major rework and one less killer at high ranks
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Yeah, why nerfing a killer who ignore most game mechanics? Just nerf survivors more, theyre totally OP.
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As long as they don't go overboard with the base kit nerf, I think Nurse will be okay.
Even though I main Nurse, I'm willing to compromise with the devs a little because I realize the perception Nurse has in the community.
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It's so amusing that so many of you nurse players expect to be able to compete with a 4-man sweaty SWF with the best survivors when most of you just aren't that good.
You have been conditioned to think you should be able to beat the best survivors because nurse allows you to unfairly compete with the best even when you are not the best, and if the devs remove that from you (which you are all so scared of), that will only be a good thing.
The best killer players perform well with all killers against the best survivors. I've never been in a game where I thought 'there was nothing I could have done to win'. Yet I see you people post 'without nurse this game would have been a loss' again and again.
The only changes killers need are a huge map rehaul and slight changes to the lowest of the low tier (legion, doc) to give them more relevance.
If you can't perform against the best players, that's because you aren't the best. Nurse being in her broken state for so long has warped your perception of what is balanced. As a killer main myself (huntress, plague, demo, trapper are my most played), who also plays a decent amount of survivor, if the devs are taking nurse off her godly perch and making skill vs skill matter in that matchup, that's a good thing.
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