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STOP complaining about SWF
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
If that is the case, then why not get a fifth friend in an the fun and play KYF? Why do you need random person to harass? Before you say you don't progress and get BPs, what's wrong with that? You are here to simply enjoy the game with friends right?
Survivors like to claim that killers are sad because they have no friends to play with. If you have so many, get five people together and enjoy the game together.
As someone who boosted others and has been boosted by SWF, I can tell you that there are way too many benefits to it. Even if they are unintentional. Even a comment as harmless ar, "Eeeek, it's Myers! He's following me!" Gives way to much information to the other players. Nevermind telling the location of totems, traps, perks after death, etc, etc.
SWF is a problem, no matter how much Survivors defend their ez mode.
We play for fun and we're only 4, me and 3 others.
And no we don't play the game to harass someone else eather, we play it because it's fun.
We usually get 2-3 gens done before we all get eaten by the entity. And don't play too often anyways.
They don't play it as much as me, and I'm not anywhere near becoming a survivor main.
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fcc2014 said:
@Skorpanio said:
please do. playing with a handicap is not necessary or even desirable for all.
I find it really funny how you try and defend yourself against the whole goddamn community.
Go play something else and stop complaining.
You're the last thing we all need!I think he just wants and needs attention. He isn't very good as killer in the game and needs to justify his inadequacy on SWF. SWF can be annoying, and the right group can be OP but it is a game. It is not a balanced game, it may never be so play the game or don't. SWF will never go away. I play on the same platform as @EpicFailTryHard and deal with the same groups, its just a [BAD WORD] game get over it unless this game is all you have. If it is i'm truly sorry for you.
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
you sure do complain a lot.
So do you.
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Skorpanio said:
Me:
Actual evidence on that SWF isin't a cheat and that he should leave the game where it stands.EpicFailTryHard:
No evidence, very small explanations on everything such as:
i am wondrous and enchanting. any opinion that differs from that is inherently bogus.
you may be seated.Are you even trying to be nice at this point?
Or is your goal to trigger the community into thinking that SWF should be removed?
I don't get your point here at all. As you are the minority you should just leave instead of trying to defend your useless thoughts!
i feel fine. i play without a mic and enjoy it. please....calm down before you hurt yourself.0 -
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@Goobz said:
Orion said:Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem.
One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time.
Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered.
Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
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Skorpanio said:
objectively observing and reporting in a most benign and polite fashion.0 -
@EpicFailTryHard said:
objectively observing and reporting in a most benign and polite fashion.
Well I suppose I'll just leave you out in this post for you to comment all you want.
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@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:@Goobz said:
Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem.
One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time.
Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered.
Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered.
So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even.
Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes.
Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse.
DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a ######### mobile game.
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@EpicFailTryHard said:
fcc2014 said:I think he just wants and needs attention. He isn't very good as killer in the game and needs to justify his inadequacy on SWF. SWF can be annoying, and the right group can be OP but it is a game. It is not a balanced game, it may never be so play the game or don't. SWF will never go away. I play on the same platform as @EpicFailTryHard and deal with the same groups, its just a [BAD WORD] game get over it unless this game is all you have. If it is i'm truly sorry for you.
you sure do complain a lot.Says the guy with multiple posts because he is a survivor main who wants be a killer main. You then touted how you could pip and not camp or tunnel anyone. Then when that didn't work you deranked to continue to play against noobs so you could dominate your competition and feel good about yourself. When you posted about it you got called out and asked if you deranked. So you decided to be a BIG BOY and just play but those gosh darn SWF stole your lunch money and sent you home to mommy. Console has had it for a year PC for 2 years. If SWF was so dominate we would not have high rank killers on all platforms. Face it you JUST SUCK AT THE GAME! Go sit in the Basement like the bad Leatherface that you are.
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@Doom_Punk said:
So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even.
Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes.
Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse.
DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game.
What kind of games are you playing where 5 gens get done in 3 minutes? No offense but you must be a woefully bad killer if that's happening. Unless you're trying to sell me the silly belief that you are constantly gen rushed by 3 or 4 survivors with brand new parts.
Furthermore, if you really feel Dbd is a "joke" when it comes to balance, then why are you even playing it? Who would give their time to a game that is as bad as you claim it is? Why are you even here on a forum about it complaining about something that will never be removed (SWF)? Do you enjoy wasting your time, or do you just enjoy bashing your head against a brick wall?
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@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered.
So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even.
Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes.
Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse.
DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game.
Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF.
Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say.
Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair.
I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it.
Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.If you can't do well against SWF just stop playing the game - many killer ruin SWF teams all day - just get better.
That's the truth of it. I play in SWF groups with my friends every day. We are good veteran players, and we often face competent killers who can kill all or most of us. They don't need to camp or tunnel to do it either.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Doom_Punk said:
So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even.
Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes.
Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse.
DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game.
What kind of games are you playing where 5 gens get done in 3 minutes? No offense but you must be a woefully bad killer if that's happening. Unless you're trying to sell me the silly belief that you are constantly gen rushed by 3 or 4 survivors with brand new parts.
Furthermore, if you really feel Dbd is a "joke" when it comes to balance, then why are you even playing it? Who would give their time to a game that is as bad as you claim it is? Why are you even here on a forum about it complaining about something that will never be removed (SWF)? Do you enjoy wasting your time, or do you just enjoy bashing your head against a brick wall?
LOL do you even look at what you post? What absolute nonsense. Boy, I play Survivor more than Killer right now and almost every game the gens are done that fast, and it's not the Killer's fault, it's how ######### the balance is. 3 minutes is the average for Survivors who don't suck. One chase = 3 gens. The other 2 gens are then finished while one person saves. This is on average 3-4, maybe 5 minutes at best. Funny thing is, you don't even need any items to do this.
When you've played a game as long as 2200 hours, you grow on it. I really want DbD to be a good game, I really do, but as it is going on the Steam/official forums are more fun than playing Killer. That's sad. I like discussing with people and voicing my opinion on ######### that needs to be fixed for this game to have a brighter future. Bashing my head against a brick wall sounds like playing Killer and I certainly don't want to do that while this game is in a state of an unbalanced mess.
Feel free to prove to me that Survivors are not stronger than Killer. Go on, I'll be waiting, bucko.
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@Doom_Punk said:
LOL do you even look at what you post? What absolute nonsense. Boy, I play Survivor more than Killer right now and almost every game the gens are done that fast, and it's not the Killer's fault, it's how ######### the balance is. 3 minutes is the average for Survivors who don't suck. One chase = 3 gens. The other 2 gens are then finished while one person saves. This is on average 3-4, maybe 5 minutes at best. Funny thing is, you don't even need any items to do this.When you've played a game as long as 2200 hours, you grow on it. I really want DbD to be a good game, I really do, but as it is going on the Steam/official forums are more fun than playing Killer. That's sad. I like discussing with people and voicing my opinion on ######### that needs to be fixed for this game to have a brighter future. Bashing my head against a brick wall sounds like playing Killer and I certainly don't want to do that while this game is in a state of an unbalanced mess.
Feel free to prove to me that Survivors are not stronger than Killer. Go on, I'll be waiting, bucko.
Funny I was wondering the same thing of you, because I don't believe for a second you are constantly in lobbies where 5 gens get done in 3 minutes. That is what's absolute nonsense. Unless you're down in the rank 18-20 zone constantly facing new killers who don't know what the hell they're doing.
I get that you've put so much time into the game, but there's a point you reach where common sense kicks in and you realize what you're complaining about isn't going to change. I was in a similar situation with Friday the 13th. I loved the F13 game, warts and all, but it got to the point where the cons started to outweigh the pros, and I stopped playing. I used to post on the F13 forums, too, criticizing the constant bugs and glitches with other fans. But it gets to a point where you might as well be talking Latin. Nothing was going to change. Why would I waste any more time playing or discussing a game I didn't enjoy any more and wasn't going to change the things I disliked, regardless of the 11+ months I'd put into it.
Dbd is as popular as ever. SWF is super popular. There is no hint from the devs that they have any intention of removing it. Its here to stay. If you want to continue to devote more of your time to typing out long winded posts about something that isn't going to change, then its your time, you waste it any way you want.
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@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered. So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even. Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes. Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse. DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game. Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF. Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say.
Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair.
I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it.
Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong.
Ooo big boy bringing out the hours. I have 3000 so eat #########. The most easy mode thing in this game is nurse. Obviously your mind games and your ability to keep your generators under control are atrocious.
Honestly if you have 2200 hours and aren’t playing at least average as a killer even at rank 1 I’m a bit worried. With all those hours SWF shouldn’t be a problem for you. It sure ain’t for me.
I'll be waiting here until you can show me those whopping 3000 hours. My profile's public, where's yours?
I will admit Nurse is easy cause she's the Killer that's good. For '3000' hours you must be really terrible to think that Killers can protect generators from 4 Survivors.
Prove it then. I'm still waiting. You talk big game and have nothing to show for it. About as much as I expect from players like yourself. Survivor mains in disguise acting like the game is fine, kappa.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Doom_Punk said:
LOL do you even look at what you post? What absolute nonsense. Boy, I play Survivor more than Killer right now and almost every game the gens are done that fast, and it's not the Killer's fault, it's how ######### the balance is. 3 minutes is the average for Survivors who don't suck. One chase = 3 gens. The other 2 gens are then finished while one person saves. This is on average 3-4, maybe 5 minutes at best. Funny thing is, you don't even need any items to do this.When you've played a game as long as 2200 hours, you grow on it. I really want DbD to be a good game, I really do, but as it is going on the Steam/official forums are more fun than playing Killer. That's sad. I like discussing with people and voicing my opinion on ######### that needs to be fixed for this game to have a brighter future. Bashing my head against a brick wall sounds like playing Killer and I certainly don't want to do that while this game is in a state of an unbalanced mess.
Feel free to prove to me that Survivors are not stronger than Killer. Go on, I'll be waiting, bucko.
Funny I was wondering the same thing of you, because I don't believe for a second you are constantly in lobbies where 5 gens get done in 3 minutes. That is what's absolute nonsense. Unless you're down in the rank 18-20 zone constantly facing new killers who don't know what the hell they're doing.
I get that you've put so much time into the game, but there's a point you reach where common sense kicks in and you realize what you're complaining about isn't going to change. I was in a similar situation with Friday the 13th. I loved the F13 game, warts and all, but it got to the point where the cons started to outweigh the pros, and I stopped playing. I used to post on the F13 forums, too, criticizing the constant bugs and glitches with other fans. But it gets to a point where you might as well be talking Latin. Nothing was going to change. Why would I waste any more time playing or discussing a game I didn't enjoy any more and wasn't going to change the things I disliked, regardless of the 11+ months I'd put into it.
Dbd is as popular as ever. SWF is super popular. There is no hint from the devs that they have any intention of removing it. Its here to stay. If you want to continue to devote more of your time to typing out long winded posts about something that isn't going to change, then its your time, you waste it any way you want.
Rank 1, it's called getting Survivors who aren't mentally handicapped. But trust me there's a lot of Rank 1s who suck and have like 80 hours, cause ranking up is easy peasy. I gen rush Killers and Survivors gen rush me, there's nothing that can be done about it. The only Killer that can do jack ######### with it is Nurse, but I don't play Nurse and I don't verse many Nurses.
Sure, complaining won't get anywhere because the devs are blind. They're rank 20s who don't know how much this game suffers from balance issues. You may back off from that but I won't, I quite enjoy being on the forums. I like debating more than playing Killer, hopefully one day that'll change.
I already know SWF isnt' going away, I knew it wouldn't since Survivors demanded it two years ago. But, I'm not going to pretend that 4 players on comms isn't an issue. I don't want it removed, I want it fixed.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered. So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even. Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes. Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse. DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game. Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF. Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say.
Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair.
I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it.
Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong.
Ooo big boy bringing out the hours. I have 3000 so eat #########. The most easy mode thing in this game is nurse. Obviously your mind games and your ability to keep your generators under control are atrocious.
Honestly if you have 2200 hours and aren’t playing at least average as a killer even at rank 1 I’m a bit worried. With all those hours SWF shouldn’t be a problem for you. It sure ain’t for me.
I'll be waiting here until you can show me those whopping 3000 hours. My profile's public, where's yours?
I will admit Nurse is easy cause she's the Killer that's good. For '3000' hours you must be really terrible to think that Killers can protect generators from 4 Survivors.
Prove it then. I'm still waiting. You talk big game and have nothing to show for it. About as much as I expect from players like yourself. Survivor mains in disguise acting like the game is fine, kappa.
SWF is fine, be a better killer.
Generic response, no weight to it.
If you go play CSGO with an entire team of solo players vs. a full team of 5 and lose, well you just need to git gud then.
See how stupid that is?
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You can just, like... ignore the complaints you know?
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@EpicFailTryHard said:
lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.If you can't do well against SWF just stop playing the game - many killer ruin SWF teams all day - just get better.
That's the truth of it. I play in SWF groups with my friends every day. We are good veteran players, and we often face competent killers who can kill all or most of us. They don't need to camp or tunnel to do it either.
Killers are so hellbent that they have to get 4Ks every game.
If they just realised it's not about that they'd understand that ONLY KILLING ONE OR TWO IS FINE.
4K is the exception, you should get 4Ks just about as often as you get 1Ks.
2/3Ks are what you want to be aiming for realistically.I agree with that. Killers are hellbent on getting 4k, because that is the point of the game, you know kill the survivor. At the same time, survivors are hellbent on surviving every game, because you know, that is the point of the game. Neither side will do it all the time. Both sides need to accept that.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:@Goobz said:
Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered. So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even. Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes. Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse. DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game. Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF. Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say.
Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair.
I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it.
Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong.
Ooo big boy bringing out the hours. I have 3000 so eat #########. The most easy mode thing in this game is nurse. Obviously your mind games and your ability to keep your generators under control are atrocious.
Honestly if you have 2200 hours and aren’t playing at least average as a killer even at rank 1 I’m a bit worried. With all those hours SWF shouldn’t be a problem for you. It sure ain’t for me.
I'll be waiting here until you can show me those whopping 3000 hours. My profile's public, where's yours?
I will admit Nurse is easy cause she's the Killer that's good. For '3000' hours you must be really terrible to think that Killers can protect generators from 4 Survivors.
Prove it then. I'm still waiting. You talk big game and have nothing to show for it. About as much as I expect from players like yourself. Survivor mains in disguise acting like the game is fine, kappa.
SWF is fine, be a better killer.
Generic response, no weight to it.
If you go play CSGO with an entire team of solo players vs. a full team of 5 and lose, well you just need to git gud then.
See how stupid that is?
CSGO a 5 vs 5 shooter compared to a 4 v 1 asymmetrical? Nice one mate, perfect analogy.
and as for your analogy anyway - it can happens that an entire team gets wiped except for one person and that one person takes out the entire rest of the team.Or, you could practise more with the killer you like and get better at it.
It's still the same idea of solo vs. comms in that comms will always have an advantage. Atleast in CSGO you can win against it, but in DbD, only against idiots.
Come on man, I've seen you get your ass kicked by solo players (and if I remember correctly complained about DS), now imagine if it were a full group of 4 that are competent with full meta on their loadouts. No winning unless you're Nurse.
Telling people to get better at Killer for acknowledging problems with SWF is becoming the new Survivor meme it seems.
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Sure, I'll just pretend like 3 minute games are fun and balanced and the way the game is meant to be.I'll act as if getting trolled by 4 people that have 16+ perks is completely okay as someone playing on my own.
The game was much better without SWF. Like, seriously, who honestly plays this game with friends just to have fun, because there are much better games to be playing with friends. People group up to make the game easymode.
I quite enjoy playing killer, coming up against a really crap SWF team and hooking them all within 3 minutes. My cup of tea is still hot !
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@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered. So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even. Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes. Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse. DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game. Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF. Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say. Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair. I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it. Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong. Ooo big boy bringing out the hours. I have 3000 so eat #########. The most easy mode thing in this game is nurse. Obviously your mind games and your ability to keep your generators under control are atrocious.
Honestly if you have 2200 hours and aren’t playing at least average as a killer even at rank 1 I’m a bit worried. With all those hours SWF shouldn’t be a problem for you. It sure ain’t for me.
I'll be waiting here until you can show me those whopping 3000 hours. My profile's public, where's yours?
I will admit Nurse is easy cause she's the Killer that's good. For '3000' hours you must be really terrible to think that Killers can protect generators from 4 Survivors.
Prove it then. I'm still waiting. You talk big game and have nothing to show for it. About as much as I expect from players like yourself. Survivor mains in disguise acting like the game is fine, kappa.
Here you go: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Theduckgoesquackquackquack/
Now stop being a crying #########. Killers can easily hold their gens it’s called having map pressure. Thinks I’m a survivor main... right. Players like myself, are actually good at the game and [BAD WORD] SWF up. Players like you cry and moan and get nowhere.
Oh cool, you proved one thing right in this entire thread. Congratulations!
I'll still be waiting to watch you play, show us how it's done vs 4 SWF with full on meta.
You won't win unless they suck.
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@SenzuDuck That is why I said both sides need to accept. Earlier I state my concerns with SWF (not complaints) and also stated that SWF will not change or be removed because at this point it cannot. I also stated I do not dodge lobbies, though I understand why some do. Please, do not put me in the group that screams about SWF. One can discuss the issue rationally and voice concerns while not going mad about it. That is what I have tried to do in this thread.
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@Doom_Punk said:
Sure, I'll just pretend like 3 minute games are fun and balanced and the way the game is meant to be.I'll act as if getting trolled by 4 people that have 16+ perks is completely okay as someone playing on my own.
The game was much better without SWF. Like, seriously, who honestly plays this game with friends just to have fun, because there are much better games to be playing with friends. People group up to make the game easymode.
I quite enjoy playing killer, coming up against a really crap SWF team and hooking them all within 3 minutes. My cup of tea is still hot !
I don't mind if they're not that good, but when you take good Survivors + SWF, that's going overboard with bad balancing.
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lmao. i will stop complaining about it when it goes the way of the dinosaur.If you can't do well against SWF just stop playing the game - many killer ruin SWF teams all day - just get better.
That's the truth of it. I play in SWF groups with my friends every day. We are good veteran players, and we often face competent killers who can kill all or most of us. They don't need to camp or tunnel to do it either.
Killers are so hellbent that they have to get 4Ks every game.
If they just realised it's not about that they'd understand that ONLY KILLING ONE OR TWO IS FINE.
4K is the exception, you should get 4Ks just about as often as you get 1Ks.
2/3Ks are what you want to be aiming for realistically.I agree with that. Killers are hellbent on getting 4k, because that is the point of the game, you know kill the survivor. At the same time, survivors are hellbent on surviving every game, because you know, that is the point of the game. Neither side will do it all the time. Both sides need to accept that.
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@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered. So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even. Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes. Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse. DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game. Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF. Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say.
Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair.
I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it.
Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong.
Ooo big boy bringing out the hours. I have 3000 so eat #########. The most easy mode thing in this game is nurse. Obviously your mind games and your ability to keep your generators under control are atrocious.
Honestly if you have 2200 hours and aren’t playing at least average as a killer even at rank 1 I’m a bit worried. With all those hours SWF shouldn’t be a problem for you. It sure ain’t for me.
I'll be waiting here until you can show me those whopping 3000 hours. My profile's public, where's yours?
I will admit Nurse is easy cause she's the Killer that's good. For '3000' hours you must be really terrible to think that Killers can protect generators from 4 Survivors.
Prove it then. I'm still waiting. You talk big game and have nothing to show for it. About as much as I expect from players like yourself. Survivor mains in disguise acting like the game is fine, kappa.
SWF is fine, be a better killer.
Generic response, no weight to it.
If you go play CSGO with an entire team of solo players vs. a full team of 5 and lose, well you just need to git gud then.
See how stupid that is?
CSGO a 5 vs 5 shooter compared to a 4 v 1 asymmetrical? Nice one mate, perfect analogy.
and as for your analogy anyway - it can happens that an entire team gets wiped except for one person and that one person takes out the entire rest of the team.Or, you could practise more with the killer you like and get better at it.
It's still the same idea of solo vs. comms in that comms will always have an advantage. Atleast in CSGO you can win against it, but in DbD, only against idiots.
Come on man, I've seen you get your ass kicked by solo players (and if I remember correctly complained about DS), now imagine if it were a full group of 4 that are competent with full meta on their loadouts. No winning unless you're Nurse.
Telling people to get better at Killer for acknowledging problems with SWF is becoming the new Survivor meme it seems.
I've absolutely been wrecked by solo players & swf players. Do i make threads complaining they should remove SWF tho? No, I don't.
D strike is awful - a killer puts all the work in just to have it reset, they've done what they need to and still have to then continue the chase.
I always hit rank one, and I never dodge lobbies and i also don't complain about SWF so....
As I already said, I don't want it removed. That would be the worst mistake this game would ever make.
However, I do it want it to be balanced out some. 4 solo Survivors that are good will wreck Killers, but if they all band together, you literally cannot win without Nurse.
Survivors have too much power at base to be given even more via SWF and crutches like Decisive.
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As I already said, I don't want it removed. That would be the worst mistake this game would ever make.However, I do it want it to be balanced out some. 4 solo Survivors that are good will wreck Killers, but if they all band together, you literally cannot win without Nurse.
Survivors have too much power at base to be given even more via SWF and crutches like Decisive.
But that is a fallacy. That is 100% factually untrue. I play with my friends in SWF lobbies every day. I watch streamers play in SWF groups like Paulie Esther. My friends and I can and sometimes do get wrecked by a competent killer, and it doesn't have to be the Nurse. So do the streamers.
This is not an opinionated issue. This is a fact. If decisive strike is a crutch, then so is barbecue and chili, hex ruin, no one escapes death, overcharge, bamboozle, make your choice etc.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Doom_Punk said:
As I already said, I don't want it removed. That would be the worst mistake this game would ever make.However, I do it want it to be balanced out some. 4 solo Survivors that are good will wreck Killers, but if they all band together, you literally cannot win without Nurse.
Survivors have too much power at base to be given even more via SWF and crutches like Decisive.
But that is a fallacy. That is 100% factually untrue. I play with my friends in SWF lobbies every day. I watch streamers play in SWF groups like Paulie Esther. My friends and I can and sometimes do get wrecked by a competent killer, and it doesn't have to be the Nurse. So do the streamers.
This is not an opinionated issue. This is a fact. If decisive strike is a crutch, then so is barbecue and chili, hex ruin, no one escapes death, overcharge, bamboozle, make your choice etc.
If a killer wins it tends to be because the survivors makes mistakes. maybe you are just not that good.
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@Beardedragon said:
If a killer wins it tends to be because the survivors makes mistakes. maybe you are just not that good.
Of course. It can't be because the killer is actually good. No no, that is impossible.
It must be nice to live in denial.
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@Beardedragon said:
If a killer wins it tends to be because the survivors makes mistakes. maybe you are just not that good.
Of course. It can't be because the killer is actually good. No no, that is impossible.
It must be nice to live in denial.
Killers can be good. but survivors are allowed more mistakes.
i mean for crying out loud you have to be chased and found 4 times with DS to even die.
try and do the math for how fast a game can be over. then couple that with the fact that the killer has to catch all people 4 times to get them killed if they run DS.
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Killers can be good. but survivors are allowed more mistakes.i mean for crying out loud you have to be chased and found 4 times with DS to even die.
try and do the math for how fast a game can be over. then couple that with the fact that the killer has to catch all people 4 times to get them killed if they run DS.
How are survivors allowed more mistakes? Second of all, what is this hang up with DS? Its a perk that gives the survivor one brief window of opportunity to use it. And even then they can miss it. That's easy math to calculate.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
How are survivors allowed more mistakes? Second of all, what is this hang up with DS? Its a perk that gives the survivor one brief window of opportunity to use it. And even then they can miss it. That's easy math to calculate.
You are expecting to get a logical argument out of people who expect to win but don't.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Beardedragon said:
Killers can be good. but survivors are allowed more mistakes.i mean for crying out loud you have to be chased and found 4 times with DS to even die.
try and do the math for how fast a game can be over. then couple that with the fact that the killer has to catch all people 4 times to get them killed if they run DS.
How are survivors allowed more mistakes? Second of all, what is this hang up with DS? Its a perk that gives the survivor one brief window of opportunity to use it. And even then they can miss it. That's easy math to calculate.
what do you even mean?
you have 4 guys on the map, the killer chases one guy for maybe 30 seconds before he decides its not worth his time and goes for survivor hunting. the killer often makes the mistake of not knowing when to chase and when not to.
and if you take too much time chasing, or running around and is unable to find survivors, the game is over. the game can be over in like 7 minutes.
in 7 minutes, the killer needs to have killed 4 guys in order to claim total victory? 7 minutes, 4 guys, all have DS? how does that add up? and you cant just pretend that DS is a small thing that does little. the distance you can cover from DS is as far as sprint burst is given how long you're stunned.
it doesnt and most major streamers knows this. they win because the survivors ######### up and makes major mistakes sometimes. now i get that a victory for the killer isnt really only all 4 dead, its more than 1 dead, but 1 dead survivor is more of a victory to the survivors than a victory to the killer.
getting hooked doesnt even kill a survivor which im fine with but with the speed generators can be repaired with? 3 hooks before a death is way too much for how short the games are. by the time the survivors leaves they've pretty much cleaned the stage for totems also.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Doom_Punk said:
@TeambossFloze said:
@Doom_Punk said:
Sure, I'll just pretend like 3 minute games are fun and balanced and the way the game is meant to be.I'll act as if getting trolled by 4 people that have 16+ perks is completely okay as someone playing on my own.
The game was much better without SWF. Like, seriously, who honestly plays this game with friends just to have fun, because there are much better games to be playing with friends. People group up to make the game easymode.
I quite enjoy playing killer, coming up against a really crap SWF team and hooking them all within 3 minutes. My cup of tea is still hot !
I don't mind if they're not that good, but when you take good Survivors + SWF, that's going overboard with bad balancing.
This is ridiculous.
"If the survivors are bad, that's fine, if they're good I want more buffs"
LOL
Well, yeah, cause then SWF isn't a problem.
I'm sure you've thought to yourself that DS isn't a problem if the Survivor is so bad you catch them 10 seconds later. I don't think it's a problem if they suck.
I'm addressing the problem. SWF or DS in the right hands can really break any semblance of balance this game has.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Doom_Punk said:
As I already said, I don't want it removed. That would be the worst mistake this game would ever make.However, I do it want it to be balanced out some. 4 solo Survivors that are good will wreck Killers, but if they all band together, you literally cannot win without Nurse.
Survivors have too much power at base to be given even more via SWF and crutches like Decisive.
But that is a fallacy. That is 100% factually untrue. I play with my friends in SWF lobbies every day. I watch streamers play in SWF groups like Paulie Esther. My friends and I can and sometimes do get wrecked by a competent killer, and it doesn't have to be the Nurse. So do the streamers.
This is not an opinionated issue. This is a fact. If decisive strike is a crutch, then so is barbecue and chili, hex ruin, no one escapes death, overcharge, bamboozle, make your choice etc.
I'm talking about good players, not bad ones. If 1 Killer wins against you cause you slipped up too much but 99 don't in a 4 man SWF team, then it's still a problem.
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@fcc2014 said:
You are expecting to get a logical argument out of people who expect to win but don't.I know, but at this stage I'm genuinely interested in the mentality behind this bizarre "logic".
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@Goobz said:
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@Goobz said: Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Doom_Punk said:
@Goobz said: Orion said:
Killers will stop complaining about things that make Survivors the powerful group when those things stop being a problem.
Survivors really aren’t that powerful. Certain perk combos can make them pretty good but they’re not OP. Plus they’ve got this update coming soon that’s going to nerf the ######### out of them. SWF isn’t a problem. If you think it is then its obviously a user problem. One Survivor is better than the Killer and can take them on for a very long time. Multiply that by 4 and tell me that's not completely overpowered. Until Killers are the power role, this game will forever have problems.
Killers ARE the power role. It is honestly such a rarity that you have a 4man SWF lobby with flashlights and DS etc etc. You’re lucky to have one match of that a day, if any. As I stated, the problem isn’t SWF, the problems are other game mechanics that need tweaking. It’s not overpowered. So gens done in 3 minutes while chases last that amount of time against Survivors with a brain isn't overpowered. Without SWF even. Riiiight. I can survive in my sleep and bully Killers on my own. Survivors like yourself think Killer is stronger, but pro tip, they aren't. The only way you lose to Killers is if you and the others are garbage and make MANY mistakes. Unless you wanna go perkless Freddy to rank 1 and show me consistent 4 mans. The only Killer that is actually powerful is Nurse. DbD is a joke when it comes to balance. Identity V did it much better and it's a [BAD WORD] mobile game. Firstly most of my hours are on killer, secondly I never even touch SWF when I’m on survivor apart from playing with my girlfriend which is purely for shenanigans and fun. There’s nothing wrong with SWF. Maybe if most of the ‘killer mains’ went and actually challenged themselves they’d get better at versing better survivors. But they don’t. Instead they sit and cry and do nothing about it whatsoever. They’d rather cry on a forum than play the game and get better.
I’ll happily go from rank 20 to 1 on a perkless and addonless Freddy, and when I do I’ll send you the playlist from YouTube and then I’ll see what you have to say. Ok, I'll just pretend the amount of advantages they get, when Survivors are already stronger than the Killer on their own, are fair. I've played for 2200 hours, much longer than you most likely. If you play any Killer but Nurse, you are literally relying on the Survivors to play like dog #########. There's only so much you can do as Killer, and what is that 'so much' you can do? Punish mistakes. That's it. Cool, get to it then. I better see 4ks every single game and no depips or safeties, if you really think Killers are strong. Ooo big boy bringing out the hours. I have 3000 so eat #########. The most easy mode thing in this game is nurse. Obviously your mind games and your ability to keep your generators under control are atrocious.
Honestly if you have 2200 hours and aren’t playing at least average as a killer even at rank 1 I’m a bit worried. With all those hours SWF shouldn’t be a problem for you. It sure ain’t for me. I'll be waiting here until you can show me those whopping 3000 hours. My profile's public, where's yours? I will admit Nurse is easy cause she's the Killer that's good. For '3000' hours you must be really terrible to think that Killers can protect generators from 4 Survivors. Prove it then. I'm still waiting. You talk big game and have nothing to show for it. About as much as I expect from players like yourself. Survivor mains in disguise acting like the game is fine, kappa. Here you go: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Theduckgoesquackquackquack/
Now stop being a crying #########. Killers can easily hold their gens it’s called having map pressure. Thinks I’m a survivor main... right. Players like myself, are actually good at the game and [BAD WORD] SWF up. Players like you cry and moan and get nowhere.
Oh cool, you proved one thing right in this entire thread. Congratulations!
I'll still be waiting to watch you play, show us how it's done vs 4 SWF with full on meta.
You won't win unless they suck.
Yeah and you’ve proved nothing at all. Sit the [BAD WORD] down and watch how good players play. I’ll be happy to destroy any SWF I come up against no matter how good.
I've asked you so many times to show us how you can beat 4 man teams of SWF, and you have yet to prove it. You say you'd destroy any team no matter how good, so, prove it.
If Marth can't win a powerful 4 man team, Scott, Zubat, whoever else, then a random scrub like you won't.
Sit the ######### down and actually show me something of value.
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Telling killers to put up with SWF is the equivalent of telling someone to listen to nails on a chalkboard.
Sad part is, SWF is useful for the growth of the game. Which means more players, more lobbies and less waiting times to get into a lobby. It keeps the game alive.
Seriously, who would have thought that playing with your friends could let you enjoy the game more? Kek.
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@Beardedragon said:
what do you even mean?you have 4 guys on the map, the killer chases one guy for maybe 30 seconds before he decides its not worth his time and goes for survivor hunting. the killer often makes the mistake of not knowing when to chase and when not to.
and if you take too much time chasing, or running around and is unable to find survivors, the game is over. the game can be over in like 7 minutes.
in 7 minutes, the killer needs to have killed 4 guys in order to claim total victory? 7 minutes, 4 guys, all have DS? how does that add up? and you cant just pretend that DS is a small thing that does little. the distance you can cover from DS is as far as sprint burst is given how long you're stunned.
it doesnt and most major streamers knows this. they win because the survivors ######### up and makes major mistakes sometimes. now i get that a victory for the killer isnt really only all 4 dead, its more than 1 dead, but 1 dead survivor is more of a victory to the survivors than a victory to the killer.
getting hooked doesnt even kill a survivor which im fine with but with the speed generators can be repaired with? 3 hooks before a death is way too much for how short the games are. by the time the survivors leaves they've pretty much cleaned the stage for totems also.
You know exactly what I mean.
Will you stop with your time quotes. 30 seconds, 7 minutes.....who do you think you're fooling here? This game and how it plays out each match is not an exact timed science. Not remotely. Its all dependent on many variables. The killer and survivor perks, skill level of the players, maps they are on, gen placement etc.
DS is a one off perk that can be used in one small window of opportunity. It grants the survivor one POSSIBLE chance of escape. Since you're so big on math, that is easy to calculate.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@Beardedragon said:
If a killer wins it tends to be because the survivors makes mistakes. maybe you are just not that good.
Of course. It can't be because the killer is actually good. No no, that is impossible.
It must be nice to live in denial.
If both parties are of equal skill, Survivors win because of the nature of the game. Killer will get 2 at best.
Gens are too quick, chases are too long. This is, of course, as I always say, if the Survivors aren't playing well.
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@fcc2014 said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
How are survivors allowed more mistakes? Second of all, what is this hang up with DS? Its a perk that gives the survivor one brief window of opportunity to use it. And even then they can miss it. That's easy math to calculate.
You are expecting to get a logical argument out of people who expect to win but don't.
i have a pretty clear view of how you play the game by seeing you on the chat. i bet you teabag people too, and if you get tunneled or camped on a hook, you will definitly let the killer know in the chat afterwards.
that confrontational attitude of yours, definitly finds its way in to your gameplay style.
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@Doom_Punk said:
I'm talking about good players, not bad ones. If 1 Killer wins against you cause you slipped up too much but 99 don't in a 4 man SWF team, then it's still a problem.I'm talking about good players, too. Good players can and do lose against a good killer. That is also a fact.
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