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Nurse needs to Obey the Rules of the Game like every other Killer

aarongai
aarongai Member Posts: 155

It's utter nonsense that BHVR would create a killer that ignores almost all the game rules and mechanics that they put in place. Sure, some killers like Huntress, Doctor, and Myers can "break" a rule or two when certain conditions are met, but Nurse breaks almost every single one that gives survivors a chance when being chased. Her power has no ammo system, and the drawback of getting fatigued for a second hardly makes a difference once you've hit a survivor and can track them by their blood, scratch marks, and grunts of pain. Comparing her to other killers:

  • Huntress can shorten pallet loops and break window vaults, but only IF she has hatchets AND she has enough time to wind up AND she must have line of sight of the survivor.

  • Doctor can break pallet loops and window vaults, but only IF he's in range AND he's times his shock well AND he's in Therapy mode AND he must endure a move speed penalty.

  • Myers ignores the injured health state, but only IF he's spent a significant amount of time to reach Evil Within III AND he's within melee range AND he sacrifices his smaller terror radius.

  • Nurse? IGNORES pallet loops, IGNORES window vaults, IGNORES pathing blockers, IGNORES height differences, IGNORES distance gaps, and with additional chain blink addons, IGNORES her own mistakes and her power's cooldown.

Nurse's power seriously needs to be reworked to where she has to obey at least Some of the rules of the game.

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  • Khroalthemadbomber
    Khroalthemadbomber Member Posts: 1,073
    @yeet to be fair the topic creator DOES possess a point.

    That being said. @aarongai the nurse has a HIGH skill cap. To be one-hundred percent honest I am terrible at her. Even at my best with her I'm not good. The problem if there is one with Nurse is that her kit is VERY closely treading a thin line. There was a glitch a few months back that gave the nurse a double stun. She was literally unplayable until it got fixed. If any changes get made they need to be closely monitored otherwise she'll drop down to Freddy tier.
  • pauloandrade22
    pauloandrade22 Member Posts: 697

    @Khroalthemadbomber said:
    @yeet to be fair the topic creator DOES possess a point.

    That being said. @aarongai the nurse has a HIGH skill cap. To be one-hundred percent honest I am terrible at her. Even at my best with her I'm not good. The problem if there is one with Nurse is that her kit is VERY closely treading a thin line. There was a glitch a few months back that gave the nurse a double stun. She was literally unplayable until it got fixed. If any changes get made they need to be closely monitored otherwise she'll drop down to Freddy tier.

    what happens with her is that she is the only killer in the "power role" right now. She's still winnable but survivors have to actually try (and use teamwork and mindgames) in order to win versus her.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    The Nurse does obey the rules of the game. Her power allows her to bypass terrain, just like the Wraith's power allows him to go invisible and the Hillbilly's power allows him to put Survivors in the dying state with one hit. Each Killer has their own abilities that Survivors need to play around.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth stealth.
    If you didn't know, because of her either slowly gliding around or going into fatigue after Blinks, her simply moving around takes up a LOT of time.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258
    edited July 2018

    @aarongai said:
    It's utter nonsense that BHVR would create a killer that ignores almost all the game rules and mechanics that they put in place. Sure, some killers like Huntress, Doctor, and Myers can "break" a rule or two when certain conditions are met, but Nurse breaks almost every single one that gives survivors a chance when being chased. Her power has no ammo system, and the drawback of getting fatigued for a second hardly makes a difference once you've hit a survivor and can track them by their blood, scratch marks, and grunts of pain. Comparing her to other killers:

    • Huntress can shorten pallet loops and break window vaults, but only IF she has hatchets AND she has enough time to wind up AND she must have line of sight of the survivor.

    • Doctor can break pallet loops and window vaults, but only IF he's in range AND he's times his shock well AND he's in Therapy mode AND he must endure a move speed penalty.

    • Myers ignores the injured health state, but only IF he's spent a significant amount of time to reach Evil Within III AND he's within melee range AND he sacrifices his smaller terror radius.

    • Nurse? IGNORES pallet loops, IGNORES window vaults, IGNORES pathing blockers, IGNORES height differences, IGNORES distance gaps, and with additional chain blink addons, IGNORES her own mistakes and her power's cooldown.

    Nurse's power seriously needs to be reworked to where she has to obey at least Some of the rules of the game.

    <rules
    <ye, pallet loopin ye, mah rulez

    Really? Have you heard about stealth, or are you another useless survivor who can't outsmart the killer?

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    aarongai said:

    It's utter nonsense that BHVR would create a killer that ignores almost all the game rules and mechanics that they put in place. Sure, some killers like Huntress, Doctor, and Myers can "break" a rule or two when certain conditions are met, but Nurse breaks almost every single one that gives survivors a chance when being chased. Her power has no ammo system, and the drawback of getting fatigued for a second hardly makes a difference once you've hit a survivor and can track them by their blood, scratch marks, and grunts of pain. Comparing her to other killers:

    • Huntress can shorten pallet loops and break window vaults, but only IF she has hatchets AND she has enough time to wind up AND she must have line of sight of the survivor.

    • Doctor can break pallet loops and window vaults, but only IF he's in range AND he's times his shock well AND he's in Therapy mode AND he must endure a move speed penalty.

    • Myers ignores the injured health state, but only IF he's spent a significant amount of time to reach Evil Within III AND he's within melee range AND he sacrifices his smaller terror radius.

    • Nurse? IGNORES pallet loops, IGNORES window vaults, IGNORES pathing blockers, IGNORES height differences, IGNORES distance gaps, and with additional chain blink addons, IGNORES her own mistakes and her power's cooldown.

    Nurse's power seriously needs to be reworked to where she has to obey at least Some of the rules of the game.

    Sure, as soon as survivors and killers have the same collision box. Meaning that they can't abuse the difference to loop a killer.
  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604
    edited July 2018

    They just need to buff all the other killers, they are way too weak compared to the Nurse and get looped to
    death

    The Devs wanted the chase to ends around 30-40 seconds, which the Nurse does extremely well, all the other killers can't pretty much and is not as efficient as the Nurse

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,913
    Ehh...I mean I’m not good with the Nurse, actually I’m terrible with her. Her fatigue is enough to make me not want to play her. Because she has a VERY high skill cap, if you manage to become skilled with her then you deserve to have all that she comes with. I cannot count how many baby Nurses that I’ve played with before, people shouldn’t play Nurse at a high rank and expect to get a 4K if they are not skilled with her. Survivors can easily outrun a Nurse on foot so you can gain distance from her and attempt to juke her blink if you think she isn’t skilled. Not that hard of a killer to juke on foot if she isn’t skilled 🤷🏼‍♀️
  • Zarathos
    Zarathos Member Posts: 1,911

    The rules the nurse break come with a large consequence. She is incredibly vulnerable to stealth. Her movement speed makes perks like urban evasion very powerful. She will struggle to maintain line of sight on her targets. As for your grunts of pain issue why aren't you running iron will. Its easily the second best survivor perk in the game every killer uses your grunts of pain when hunting. If you think this unfair consider the fact that killers have to run bamboozle to deal with large loops like the groaning storehouse or the tree areas. Also survivors need to move towards unpredictable locations. Don't run and hide under pallets the nurse knows you will be there. As for your blood how did she get a hit on you her terror radius is gonna give you enough time to get distance away from her. I run premonition and iron will and i can tell you nurses have a very hard time finding me.

  • DirtyNurseMain
    DirtyNurseMain Member Posts: 70
    aarongai said:

    It's utter nonsense that BHVR would create a killer that ignores almost all the game rules and mechanics that they put in place. Sure, some killers like Huntress, Doctor, and Myers can "break" a rule or two when certain conditions are met, but Nurse breaks almost every single one that gives survivors a chance when being chased. Her power has no ammo system, and the drawback of getting fatigued for a second hardly makes a difference once you've hit a survivor and can track them by their blood, scratch marks, and grunts of pain. Comparing her to other killers:

    • Huntress can shorten pallet loops and break window vaults, but only IF she has hatchets AND she has enough time to wind up AND she must have line of sight of the survivor.

    • Doctor can break pallet loops and window vaults, but only IF he's in range AND he's times his shock well AND he's in Therapy mode AND he must endure a move speed penalty.

    • Myers ignores the injured health state, but only IF he's spent a significant amount of time to reach Evil Within III AND he's within melee range AND he sacrifices his smaller terror radius.

    • Nurse? IGNORES pallet loops, IGNORES window vaults, IGNORES pathing blockers, IGNORES height differences, IGNORES distance gaps, and with additional chain blink addons, IGNORES her own mistakes and her power's cooldown.

    Nurse's power seriously needs to be reworked to where she has to obey at least Some of the rules of the game.

    What do you mean!!?! As soon as you get that blink hit they’re ######### running at the speed of light across the map, add that to the prolonged fatigue!
    Nurse is god with a god player behind it, so blame the players skill not the character they play
  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893
    You know what's the best counter for nurse stealth her blinking severely crippled her tracking capability. Which is why a lot of nurses equip shadowborn or bloodhound
  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    Every killer has a power that breaks one aspect of the game.

    Doctor - More or less deletes stealth
    Leatherface - Nullifies safety in numbers
    Hillbilly - effectively makes maps smaller

    ect.

    Nurse just happens to break the biggest crutch of the AVERAGE survivor.

  • FIEND8LOODED
    FIEND8LOODED Member Posts: 336
    edited July 2018

    Are you serious? Nurse is not difficult to avoid. Stealth is their greatest weakness. Breaking line of sight (which is very easy due to the fatigue after EVERY BLINK) and hiding is one of the best strategies against a Nurse. Even just not being caught is easy, because they move slow which means that you can walk or crouch around an object with higher chance of successfully avoiding her, and from what I've seen they don't blink unless it's for transportation or they're after someone/suspect someone to be in a specific position like near a generator or if they saw a survivor crouching behind a tree or something. You have no idea how many games against Nurses I've gotten out of because I've stayed hidden and done gens.

    She obeys enough rules of the game, just not the ones you want.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,913
    Honestly her movement speed is a de-buff enough. If ANYTHING I feel like her movement speed should be the same as Myers in EW I (104%). Nurse moves ridiculously slow, especially if you aren’t used to the blinks.
  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    Down'sbilly ignores the rules of the game. lol

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    No. Stop being a whiny #########
  • popoles
    popoles Member Posts: 831
    Cry me a river lol.
  • Chi
    Chi Member Posts: 781

    It makes playing against the nurse fun, I am fine with her.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @pauloandrade22 said:
    Unlike other killers stalling does not work on her.

    I undestand its too much to ask but you have to use mind games with her to win.