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Tier List, Balanced around high end players
Viability of killers considering top players on both sides.
Nurse is third because without addons she can be outrun for a while, except on small maps, which are few. If survs lose LOS with her she gets heavily punished. With addons she is S tier.
Freddy is still m1, if survs play safe around pallets he is in trouble.
A Good player with headsets on spirit is the easiest way to consistently counter survs, plus the map control she has due to her power.
Billy has map control but is still loopable. He can use chainsaw mecanics on structures such as straight loops, jungle gyms and the long wall in pallet gyms (not the short, good survs would use the short). Still, can be forced to m1.
Huntress is very good at close range chases, great at common structures such as jungle gyms, pallet gyms, shack. She adds map control by long range hatchets. Even if survs move and the hatchet misses, you force them to stop doing the gen. She is great at proxy camp and slug. She is slow so gets hard punished by missplays (not as hard as nurse). Good survs will try to lose LOS and get distance from her.
Hag is countered by good coordinated survs, obj of obs is terrible for her. Add Flashlights and it's worse. She is good at proxy camping and obviously protecting loop zones while she has traps. Coordinate survs will complicate the deployment of her weeb.
Oni lacks of his power for a lot of time, when it's not available he is m1.
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Few issues i have with this:
- Huntress has very minimal map pressure, even if you are ending chases in 30 seconds, all the gens can still be done. Maps also completely screw her over as shes only 110% speed
- Nurse is better than billy, she cant be looped
- Demo is nowhere near B tier, i would put him below pig
- Plague is better than myers 100%
- Oni is too reliant on early game, should be moved to low b
- Freddy is better than Huntress
Of course this is my o p i n i o n
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Slightly changes, I think demo is decent enough to be B tier. Good map control and pretty decent power useful in jungle gyms and the shack.
Nurse can't be looped but she can be outrun and when close enough she can be mindgamed, so she loses time anyway. She is not as strong or unstoppable as she used to be.
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Overall, I think this is a fairly accurate list. Just one change I would make.
Freddy doesn't belong in A tier. Billy, Huntress, and Nurse all have good snowballing potential. Freddy does not. Plus, Freddy's chase potential isn't as reliable as the others in A tier.
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I’d switch Huntress with Hag the rest is pretty accurate. Unless you’re on Console, then nurse is C Tier
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Making tier list only makes survivor mains and devs to target killers more easily.
Pls stop making them
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Legion is D tier, I never get more than 1-2k without addons
If Legion uses broken pin or stun recovery is easily A tier.
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Hag should be higher....
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I mostly agree. As a Hag main, I definitely agree that she can have a hard time against coordinated survivors. Her whole shtick is to create chaos, and good players on comms limit how much panic you can induce. I agree on Nurse as well. You have to guess at LOS breaks, especially when closing the distance. People mistakenly assume there's always a correct blink to make, when in reality a lot of Nurse is guesswork. High end survivors mix up their pathing. It's very possible to incorrectly guess a coin flip multiple times in a row.
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Multiple times rank 1 on console, agree but we dont got Freddy and Nurse is more like C tier with addons, D tier without.
There's maybe, maybe 1 red rank nurse main on switch and maybe 2-3 decent nurses overall counting myself and Snow. Granted our player pool size is super small compared to PC. Hopefully someday they will implement cross platform play.
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Huntress and Billeh are overrated.
Anna - the slowest Killer in the game, and she has to break chases when she is out of hatchets.
Billeh - pretty much an m1 Killer if Survivors play safely.
Wraith - really? Speed (with add-ons though) and stealth is damn strong combo. Did you actually play him?
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i dont get why billy and huntress are so high up tbh, billy is very loop able and he wastes so much time trying to get chainsaw hits against people who can loop and huntress will not have any pressure on the bigger maps even more so with the ruin change.. i guess this is your opinion though so you can place them where you like, but some of the killers you have placed high i find some of the easiest to loop
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It's almost imposible that I miss 5 hatchets on a single chase. If I end it because of that I had 2 or 1 hatchets at the start which means I downed 1 or two survivors earlier without realoding to continue the snowball.
Wraith chase potencial is pretty low vs good survs, easily rushed. Low slug/snowball potencial comparing to A tier.
The tier list is make around high end players, assume those killers at played at max potencial. Same on surv side.
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I think Huntress is too inconsistent, maps screw her over more than any other killer. Nurse played well can still destroy survivors even if she is annoying to play as.
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When I look at someone else’s tier list, I don’t try to match it exactly to mine. Instead, I look to see if each position of the killers is reasonable in my view. Honestly I think this is very reasonable. I do think you’re underrating the Hag a bit, but it’s a nice tier list overall.
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This tier list is not an opinion. I take experience from tournaments played by me and a lot of evidence taken from other high end players that I see.
In a tourney you should never use a killer lower than A tier or you are pretty much screwed. Maybe Ghostface with a little bit of luck can also be competitive.
Huntress and Billy are very good choices vs very good survs on practically every map, even on bad maps for them they still perform better than B tier. Considering the players using the killers are proficient with them.
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wraith is hit and run not 1v1, huntress is a better 1v1 but if people block line of sight and keep running youre wasting way too much time due to your speed... you say high end but what does that even mean? iv never seen a billy get chainsaws against the top and huntress gets destroyed by lack of pressure.. if youre just counting red ranks that doesnt matter as ranking is flooded with noobs who should be purple ranks at best
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its your opinion... and im still yet to see some of the ones you played so high do as well as you claim, against more casual survivors sure but top end, definitely not. but thats YOUR opinion to mine, im sure most of us have had experience in the game for example iv been rank 1 for 2+years playing each killer and survivors. and if the tournaments are the ones i think you're on about isnt that where people just piss about and have fun than more competitive... game by nature isnt competitive, survivors the power role, can you imagine huntress as slow as she is keeping pressure without ruin against a good team with knowledge? me either
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High end refers to at least top 1% of players. Simply as that. Best players in terms of skill, mecanics, knowledge on the game.
I'm counting scrims, tournamments , matchmaking games vs very good players, evidence that I see from other players profficient on other killers playing with very good survs, etc.
In a normal rank 1 game most people is average on both sides, I'm not counting that. Every high end player destroys at rank 1 on both sides because the huge difference on skill. Here I'm counting high end vs high end.
Rank is not a thing here, I'm at rank 1 since the first week I started playing the game back in 2017.
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And i thought bumping your own thread was against the rules...
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then youd know huntress and billy have no chance against them, hell i dont think billy has ever hit me with that thing unless i messed up by going into a dead end i thought a window was open... im not here to argue though everyone can have their opinion but from my experience billy, huntress are lower, so are some others while others move up but once again thats my experience and my opinion
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My Billy has no chance because I'm decent with him, not top.
My Huntress does, probably I won't make 12 hooks but still they can die. That's my experience vs the best survs I've played against. I'm not sayin I'm going to kill all 4 100% sure. But it's a pretty reasonable output.
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Plus she is punished for using her only form of mobility now. Sure if she has both blinks off cd she can catch a surv if, They Don't Know How To Run Her, but during a chase with that first or second blink on cd shes not catching anyone unless they potato into a wall. She used to be fun without add-ons, great games, good chances of success, and failure. Now just blinking to one side of the map to the other to find a surv at the beginning of a match takes forever, guarantees at least 1 gen being done by the time you find a dude, and get your first hook, especially at higher tiers when they know how to immerse against her, and double back on loops, and beanz like dead blink spots (pls fix bhvr). Only because that cd on her power has really made dealing with everything including ground vision 75% of the match all the more frustrating. Pig Grass-Vision is better now >.<
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hags A tier if you know how to play her. I rarely lose with her in rank 1 and thats also when going against fl squads. As long as your good with her and can change your play style to counter the survivors play styles she is a true monster that can snow ball and stomp team.
edit: hag is not countered by coordinated survivors, it does make her harder to play but unless they are all running a FL and urban you can do just fine with her. As for them running into your traps they waste their time searching for traps and when they activate them they tell you where they are and risk getting into a chase if they activated your trap too late. seriously does no one actually go against or play hag enough to know that only a team that has perks and FL's to counter hag can actually destroy her and the likeliness of coming across one of those teams is beyond rare. I stomp coordinated teams constantly and on console where you can make 4 randoms into a swf by a simple party invite and get low frames from tping to traps or getting blood lust.
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This My opinion, Hag is the best killer in the game
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Pretty accurate list, good job!
The only thing I would change are bubba from D to high-C because he has an instadown that with good addons you are able to charge it very quick, and wraith from C to B because of the same reason, with addons he can be very deadly.
Other than that I agree with this list
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