Survivors should be afraid of the killer

@pemberley said:
Zanfer said:

@pemberley said:

Instead it seems a lot of them, especially in groups, get really cocky and obnoxious. 

When me and my friends play survivor, yeah we work together but all of us get scared when the killer is around and games are intense. 

Yet as killer I encounter survivors who instead of trying to escape will literally start running circles around me and it feels like Benny Hill is playing in the background. Last night I had a game where they gen rushed and kept tea bagging at the gate and one survivor literally stayed for an extra 10 minutes and wouldn’t leave. Another group kept unhooking and body blocking me. 

I don’t want to camp. Camping is not fun. But I have to because otherwise I would have gotten nothing for my time beyond a displeased entity who can’t be satisfied with multiple hits and hooks. 

I think they should make it so after x amount of time in a chase, survivors start to get exhausted like a reverse bloodlust. If they get hit, they get a burst of adrenaline but they are slowed and vaults and pallets become twice as long to use. Pallets should automatically break after 2 uses and they can’t be used if the survivor has camped the vicinity for more than 3 seconds. 

In compensation I also think survivors should be able to wiggle faster, and completed wiggles take priority over hooking. And the last survivor should get a bonus for being the last survivor, like automatically getting the ability to self heal (or faster) or taking one extra hit or hook. 

Survivors should live up to the name, not act like frat kids toying with someone. 

The problem with fear is that fear is a subjective opinion to how you feel about something. Just because you nerf the survivors doesn't mean that they will start fearing the killer. They might keep more distance away, but not exactly fear.

I think I explained enough in my post that basically killers should be threats and the game should find a way to reward determined survivors without sending killers on goose chases or outright toying with them by camping at a pallet so I’m forced to eat a stun or destroy the pallet anyway because in another chase some jerky survivor will loop de loop between vault points and pallets. 

I was agreeing with you, but yes I do understand that which is why I said "nerf survivors"

I only become scared due to tension: for instance, I'm the last one alive. The hatch is evidently somewhere but the killer's heartbeat is nowhere to be found. I have a hunch and realise the Killer has already found it... I run into a gen and have to make a risky decision: do I miss a skill check to bring him over and try to sneak around? Or do I complete it and potentially give away my position whilst also opening up the possibility of 'No One Escapes Death' kicking in and giving him an advantage?

The scenario I described ended with me sneaking past the killer after failing the skill check and getting the hatch. It is scenarios like that which craft fear with tension, that get your heart racing. As of now it feels like there is no tension whatsoever in the game. I feel very relaxed whilst the playing the game. There are very few moments during the game's progress where I feel tense: let's say I used 'Spine Chill' in order to make me aware of a killer's approach. I sneak away in a very exposed area... And I narrowly avoid being caught by the killer. I feel tense during those situations. So far there is no real pressure on survivors that would call for such a reaction or fear.

I understand the frustration. Maybe you could watch certain killers stream? One of my favorite killers is Zubatlel and he completely annihilates survivors. Any "skill" I have in this game, I picked up because I watched streamers play. You're playing against people with thousand of hours. It's a frustrating process, but learning this game does take time especially when you play against these type of experienced players.

I understand what you're saying, but making people scared is a bit of a moving target. There's a lot of factors that go into it. Some have already mentioned a few like what creeps people out, becoming desensitized, etc.

Adding onto that, there are people who can walk straight through a house of horrors without twitching once. Then there's people who jump at shadows. It's impossible to find a medium between the two, since at that point it comes down to the basic psychology of a person. Personally, the worst it gets for me is going against trapper or hag because of the ridiculously loud noises their traps make that scares me. I hate sudden loud noises and jumpscares, but maybe not the Claudette with the purple flashlight that loops.

Tension, we can all agree, is always prominent in DBD. It does a fantastic job at giving us a wake up call, and it's probably the closest we'll get to having everyone thinking "Oh crap, better do these generators". I don't mind the current atmosphere of the game, I really like it actually. Creating a fearful experience, though? Pretty hard to do.

id love to be scared and play inmmersed but... those bright neon clothes cant be used with stealth and im a superficial ######### so... it aint happening