Well guess what, it is. Sorry you can't process that fact. It places the key by RNG but THAT'S THE SAME THING. It's still random what box will get it off, leaving a chunk of the match to just blind luck. That's stupid, it's a god awful mechanic, and another example of bad design.

So yeah saying "using pig and her BS unreliable RNG traps" is not misleading, it's 100% accurate.

These are the type of people generally playing pig too, hence why I don't deal with them anymore. They refuse to see anything wrong with it, just furthering the problem.

No, it's another case of trying to pass blame. They ACTIVELY chase you off the box and seek you out, they don't stumble into you- and then they follow you from box to box making sure you can't and if they can down you again they will, if you have DS they will just leave you there, and keep up that form of pressure to a point you literally don't actually play the game at all, you spend all game on a hook, on the ground, or at a jigsaw box until death.

Also getting screwed by the box because you manage to escape a tunneling pig and use a bunch of jigsaw boxes, only for it to not be ANY of those randomly selected boxes, and then dying just because of that is a load of bull.

I have seen very VERY few decent Pig players who are not obnoxious and unfun; let alone that can admit issues with the killer's kit causing issues. She's the worst killer to play against in the game, only thing that might be worse is a camping Bubba and even that is a maybe from me personally.

Exactly, it's stupid.

I disagree, I think it's most of the pig mains who are irrational. My friends I all play with hate her as much as I do, only difference is they have a bit more patience with it than myself. I can recognize Pig suffers from the RNG problem too, that she isn't the strongest killer by any means, and that there are probably some people who don't channel her absurd tunneling potential- thing is there doesn't seem to be a lot of that coming from the people going "OMG PIG SO CYOOT BOOP THE SNOOT" when confronted with the other side of things. That seems far more irrational to me.

I can safely say for example, that if they re-worked the boxes to not be some RNG/Luck nonsense, reduced her tunneling capabilities, and buffed her in the process while they were at it; I would enjoy playing both as and against her a whole lot more.

That won't solve player attitude, but it would solve most of the ammo they use to be toxic.

That's something, I think part of it is the RNG aspect of it, but I think the other part is how hilariously vulnerable it makes you, it basically screams tunnel this person which is why so many pig's do it. Also like they said above, if a survivor runs the killer past you, because they are some awful pubbie, you are going to get downed or knocked off that box all because of someone else's recklessness. In SWF it's not as bad but solo's it's incredibly frustrating.

Still, Pig shouldn't be punished immediately by luck either, it's a dumb mechanic as a whole.

A lot of people have pointed this out; yet they are the ones who are irrational for doing so; and not the people going "Yeah this is totally luck based and not based around any sort of skill at all- that's fine"

I imagine it would need a pretty large rework.

Also it most definitely is not low to middle ranks only, in fact the lower ranks are actually usually not so bad, I've had toxic ones with like 3000+ hours in red ranks.

It's a killer who has mechanics that cater to awful styles of gameplay, just like how Bubba does. Does that mean every bubba is a troll who face camps? No, but a lot of them do. Thing is that usually DOES stay in the lower to middle ranks I find, the problems with Pig have been universal.