Why so toxic?

@Eeyoretheskeptic said:
I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this?

Because they have the power to do that.
My suggestion is to derank by afk games from time to time (while watching a movie etc), this way you can enjoy a healthy gameplay. The game has been balanced aroudn low ranks, so you wanna stay there to have fun.

When players try to competitive, then you have 3 minute games, thats not toxic btw, just survivor actually trying to play the game optimally.

Toxicity is so common in this game because there are certain streamers advertising this playstyle and making it cool, the kids just copy them and now we have that ingame. Sadly the devs dont do anything against it, they only see it as free advertisement

@Eeyoretheskeptic said:
Bad thing is. Last time it happened. I actively avoided face camping. They get the save and then message me Live and learn...then face camp i guess. Haha

It is called hard-camping, face camping isnt possible anymore

@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@Orion said:

@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.

Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids.



Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment.



I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote?

But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.

Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot.

I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide.

About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game!

You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.

And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all?

Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not.

"I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these"
^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD

@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@Orion said:

@Vietfox said:       @Eeyoretheskeptic said:      I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this?               SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.

Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment. I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote? But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.

Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot.



I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide.

About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game!



You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.

And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all?

Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not.

"I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these"

^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD

It’s not wrong to lobby dodge a SWF group that you know will brag or send you hate after the match is over. Its only wrong if you can’t stand a challenge and good teamwork.

The thing is, how do you know a swf group will brag or send you hate after the match by watching them at the lobby? xD
Toolboxes, flashlights... all items and addons (survivors and killer ones) are game features, and you can be a fair player even when using them, and if you don't like it, there's a killer perk for that, FD.

@JP_Cloud said:
Master said:

@Eeyoretheskeptic said:

I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this?

Because they have the power to do that.

My suggestion is to derank by afk games from time to time (while watching a movie etc), this way you can enjoy a healthy gameplay. The game has been balanced aroudn low ranks, so you wanna stay there to have fun.

When players try to competitive, then you have 3 minute games, thats not toxic btw, just survivor actually trying to play the game optimally.

Toxicity is so common in this game because there are certain streamers advertising this playstyle and making it cool, the kids just copy them and now we have that ingame. Sadly the devs dont do anything against it, they only see it as free advertisement

If they do that though they don’t rank up. You can’t rank up just by rushing GENS. 

You can. I effectively demonstrated that during the event by playing survivor on my own. Sure the pips are most of the time quite close, but I piped in almsot every game genrushing

@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:

@Orion said:

@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.

Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids.        Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment.        I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote?    But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.

Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot. I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide. About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game! You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.

And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all?



Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not.

"I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these"

^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD

It’s not wrong to lobby dodge a SWF group that you know will brag or send you hate after the match is over. Its only wrong if you can’t stand a challenge and good teamwork.

The thing is, how do you know a swf group will brag or send you hate after the match by watching them at the lobby? xD

Toolboxes, flashlights... all items and addons (survivors and killer ones) are game features, and you can be a fair player even when using them, and if you don't like it, there's a killer perk for that, FD.

Because most SWFs do that and if you have even the slightest experience with killer you would know that.

Like I’ve said like twice now I have no problem with SWF other than that. You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now.

I admit that i'm a survivor main, but i also got experience as a killer. The difference between you and me is that i don't give a ######### about losing, getting t-bagged, etc.

"You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now." see? you are easily bothered by replies which i never meant in that way. Take it easy man.

@SovererignKing said:
@Vietfox Want to play poker with me? I stack the deck, just so you know. Come on, it’ll be fun. You don’t care if you lose and I gloat in your face right? It’s just a game man, have fun with it. Take it easy man. 

See how stupid that sounds? That’s what you sound like when you say Killers are cowards for dodging SWF. SWF offers so many advantages, playing Killer against that, it’s like playing poker against someone who stacks the deck. 

Cool story

@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:

Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:

@PinkEricka said:    Vietfox said:

@Orion said:

@Vietfox said:       @Eeyoretheskeptic said:      I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this?               SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.

Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment. I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote? But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.

Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot.        I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide.    About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game!        You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.

And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all? Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not. "I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these" ^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD

It’s not wrong to lobby dodge a SWF group that you know will brag or send you hate after the match is over. Its only wrong if you can’t stand a challenge and good teamwork.



The thing is, how do you know a swf group will brag or send you hate after the match by watching them at the lobby? xD

Toolboxes, flashlights... all items and addons (survivors and killer ones) are game features, and you can be a fair player even when using them, and if you don't like it, there's a killer perk for that, FD.



Because most SWFs do that and if you have even the slightest experience with killer you would know that.

Like I’ve said like twice now I have no problem with SWF other than that. You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now.

I admit that i'm a survivor main, but i also got experience as a killer. The difference between you and me is that i don't give a ######### about losing, getting t-bagged, etc.

"You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now." see? you are easily bothered by replies which i never meant in that way. Take it easy man.

I’m a survivor main too but the point I’m trying to make is that it’s highly irritating getting a whole ass full of salt mail in your DM’s whenever you’ve played fairly or not. When you piss off one of them, you piss off all of them and receive hate from the entire group. I’ve experienced that way too many times. I can always just turn off my messages but the only thing that stops me is the occasional “gg” from the opposing sides and the chance to make new friends to play SWF with.

I’m only bothered by the fact that every single time I stand up for killers which I rarely do, survivor mains on this forum want to jump up and say “wow you’re a whinny killer main!1!1!” when really I just understand how it’s like to be treated with little respect when you’re just trying to have fun.

Quick reminder, there are people on this forum who defends killers 24/7 and blame survivors for every little mishap cough cough ^^^^^^^^

I never said you were a whinny killer main. Just don't mind those salty survivors, they are most probably kids. I'm sure you can be better than them.

@PinkEricka said:
Orion said:

@PinkEricka said:

Right, like killers don’t nod their head after they hook a survivor? I’m pretty sure it came from both sides so no need to act like killer mains are that innocent...

Did you read past the first sentence? There's only two sentences in there, and one is six words long. Is that how long your attention span lasts?

I did. Did you not say killers picked up those bad habits as well?

@Orion is apparently always like this, tackling other people with her replies xD

chemical_reject said:

SovererignKing said:

chemical_reject said:

Orion said:

@chemical_reject said:
Well when there's 4 more survivors than there is to killers the math checks out evenly. Of [BAD WORD] course toxic behavior will show more on the survivor side because of sheer numbers. If u worked the math out I bet the percentage of toxic survivors vs the percentage of toxic killers is the same. 

I forgot to mention, but it was disproportionate in relation to what you said. Again, if you'd played from the start, you'd know that.

And I totally see ur point, I wasn't there. But I'm sure any survivor "main" who's been playing since the beginning can come in here and say, "well we only resorted to gen rushing and pallet looping because killers camp and tunnel" it's a he said she said type thing. I wasn't there, idk. 

Survivors resorted to Pallet Looping when Infinite’s got the axe. No matter what the developers tried, Survivors found ways to suck at hiding and just Stall to win. 

Lol my post was a for instance. Your obligatory defensive reply was unnecessary .