How often do you feel you actually outplayed opponents of equal skill?

I don't think anyone is of "equal" skill. If I lose, they were better. If win, they were worse. Pretty simple. No one will ever be your perfect equal.

A lot of the time, most of the time even.

But keep in mind I'm a person that don't view plays aided by perks as "undeserved" or anything like that. If someone gets away because of DS or gets a kill because of NOED, they simply used something in the game to their advantage.

It's completely irrelevant if I feel whatever was involved should be changed, if they hard camped 1 survivor and got another with NOED or they used DS aggressively instead of anti-tunnel. It's how it works in the game at the moment and in my opinion it's scrubby to think "They didn't really beat me!" for reason like that.

99% of the time.

You'll always hear DC complaints on here, but very few DC from my matches.

AFKs are 20 times as rare, and people trying to work with me is 5 times as rare as AFKs.

So generally, they try their best, and as long as they do that, if i win, it'll feel earned.

i mean... depends on how often i actually go against a survivor with decent skill. its hard to come by after the ranking changes.

i feel like i 4k (or 3k with a hatch escape) about 95% of my games. played about 10 hrs yesterday and only had 1 time where all 4 escaped.

i dont think of "how often" as a match though. i think of it case by case. like someone can outplay me allll game but i still manage to get them. thats not me really outplaying them, just as a hatch escape isnt them outplaying me.

jukes, loops, mind games, reads at pallet, etc. thats where i think about if i outplayed them or not.

Never. The overwhelming majority of my games are wiping out survivors that don't know what they're doing. The amount of simple easily avoided mistakes they make add up so quickly that I can't keep count. Then I 4k totally aware that I only won because the survivors were bad.

On the off chance that I get a good group it's the opposite feeling. They make no mistakes for me to capitalize on and I can't do anything. Gens get done quickly with me having 2-3 hooks. If the majority of survivors had any clue how the game worked I'd never play.

There isn't ever any in between and hasn't been in a long time.

Atm the game isn't fulfilling because the outcome is decided in matchmaking. It's almost become a glorified slot machine.

I don't think on either side I ever go against opponents of equal skill level. As a survivor, I've actually been bored with how easy it is. As killer, the survivors I go against are almost always more experienced, with higher level perks, lower ranks, and some are definitely SWF.

If I 4k it means there was a significant skill difference or they just played really bad that game.

Some games I do badly and it's because I messed up a lot, but most games I lose wasn't because I got outplayed but just because they knew how to do gens fast. All chases sub 15 seconds and still a loss.

Every. Single. Match. Because I'm freaking amazing

Item add ons and perk combinations rarely make me feel like someone gets outplayed when they lose. If I can mori a healthy survivor or wall hack to see a killer or survivor, things like that dont take skill to be good with. The balance issues arent the core game its the plethora of game changing perks and add ons that destroy it.

Pretty much what the OP said, though it depends on the killer. I rarely feel like I outplayed opponents with M1 killers because I've had games go the other way. Once you have a frame of reference for how 4 good survivors run those killers, you look at them differently. At least I do.

There are catch-up mechanics - you're just socially pressured not to use them.

It has happened to me as a killer, but not really often, it's more of a bad matchmaking case OR when I'm playing Huntress, wich I'm not good at it btw so I end up missing a bunch of hatchets and losing (but I'm aware it's because I'm bad, not because they're good). If I knew how to run loops more correctly I could play her more efficiently. The other m1 killers I can play fairly good, but I'm really a non-sweaty killer so I barely ever slug or go against the person who just got unhooked; being nice, though, has cost me a few games; doesnt really bother me if I got all 4 juicy bbq stacks.

As a survivor, it depends. There's a few killers I dont know how to go against properly. A good hillbilly, for instance, can beat me up really fast. But most m1 killers I feel like a play against fairly decent. However, these days what has really getting me killed most of matches is bad teammates. Like people who go down almost instantly against a legion or a clown. Since the update I think I escaped once. I'm purple ranks and I dont feel like everyone should be this boosted in here (like running TOWARDS the killer after I unhooked them, even though they just saw the killer going on that direction). So not really outplayed, but mostly losing because its NOT a 1x1 game and doesnt matter how good you are, if one or all your teammates are bad, theres just so much you can do.

When I play nurse, spirit or huntress I feel like I can beat any survivors. Pig and Freddy to a degree. As for survivor I’ve been in so many games where the killer downs us pretty fast yet still looses the game because of one slightly long chase they have had with someone.

Ikr they call it toxic and meta...homie, I'm just tryna survive chill dog

I play Identity V somewhat actively, and the way it handles win conditions has rubbed off on me. One kill is a loss, two kills is a draw, and three or four is a win. Really simple, but it's just a shame that it's so hard against good teams to even secure what I'd class as a draw. If I win I can very rarely say it's because I outplayed the survivors, just because survivors are in many ways required to outplay themselves to fail at doing all five generators before they all die. Without Ruin it's become laughable to expect a gen or two not to go by your first hook, and if that doesn't happen, you can safely assume that the team has no idea how the game works.

And because of my experience as a killer main (clocking in at about 2400 hours of game time between both sides), the fun in playing survivor has kinda been sucked away. Either my team and I win because the gens fly by, and I feel bad for the killer and the stress they've likely endured, or we all die because one or two of my random teammates didn't know how to hold mouse 1 and occasionally hit space. It's just a series of eye rolls at this point because either way I don't feel any sense of pride as a survivor player.

PS. Ruin was never hard to counter. Either hit the skill checks properly like you have the innate capability to do, or go find the hex and break it. Same with NoEd. Hex perks are all complete jokes, and it's just sad that the only one worth a damn is now an even bigger joke.