I'm Sorry
During the 'Play With the Devs' livestream, at the 36:22 mark (approximately), I tried to suggest something concerning a hoodie cosmetic: to make the hoodie a torso piece and to have the head piece be a mesh that is connected to the hoodie but with no hair (due to the hoodie covering it) and having a dark texture to resemble brushed back/tied back hair, with alternate variations of the head piece being face paint...
Except when Mathieu responded I felt extremely guilty. Because there was something in his tone that told me that he thought that I was presuming such a thing was easy. It isn't. I was just trying to suggest an idea to them and I wasn't trying to suggest doing anything of the sort was easy: if it came off that way, I'm sorry.
But I'd like to bring up a few examples I've seen of how this process would work. For instance, Quentin's Beanie. Aside from the Beanie the hair is just a dark texture with small patches of hair to suggest a large head of hair. And I've seen from cosmetic items like Feng Min's cardigan how glitchy connecting body parts could be, due to Feng Min having a second collar bone up until recently where they seemed to fix it (whilst also giving her an evaporating left shoulder blade). I don't think we could give any current survivors Hoodies (unless you fix a hoodie torso to a hoodie head piece and prohibited anything other than the hoodie head piece or any short head items that didn't clip through the hood to be selected when using the hoodie torso) given how much of them have long hair or already have head accessories.
I went off on a rant trying to explain my point. But I did want to apologise. I felt like an ass when Mathieu responded. He had a tone that said something along the lines of "Oh, another person just thinking we can make that". I know the difficulties behind these tasks and I wasn't trying to undervalue the efforts of the design team in any way. I've been aspiring to be a moderator for the forums and I feel like I've blown my chances because now they may think I'm just another ungrateful ass. 
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lol in all seriousness i'm sure once he reads your post he will forgive you.
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@βLAKE said:
lol in all seriousness i'm sure once he reads your post he will forgive you.
I hope so. I think he sees so many demands that he's just kind of tired of it... Balance feedback from the community is always focused on short-term fixes rather than realising that any balance changes are made with future killers and all of the games' perks in mind. Or how some people ask for licensed killers without knowing the costs that go behind them. I'm trying my best to try and show that I respect the Devs. Hell, I was asking the Mods and @not_Queen about their days because I can imagine how rare it is to hear anyone care about their day-to-day lives...
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I do not think you blew your chances as a moderator. After all it was just a suggestion. And he didn’t seem too irritated by it either but even he if was it is probably because of the people who suggest thing and insult them at the same time. At least it is what I see most of them do. One bad apple can ruin It for the rest. However you seem like you are coming from a genuine place 8-)2
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He wouldn't even have remembered that.0
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@Iceman said:
I do not think you blew your chances as a moderator. After all it was just a suggestion. And he didn’t seem too irritated by it either but even he if was it is probably because of the people who suggest thing and insult them at the same time. At least it is what I see most of them do. One bad apple can ruin It for the rest. However you seem like you are coming from a genuine place 8-)That 'genuine place' must be one of anxiety. I'm always worried that I've said something wrong, to the point where I make entire posts about it. But I do genuinely worry for people like Mathieu and the DBD, along with other game Devs. So many people take things so far and are so ungrateful. We never know how much our words are taken to heart, especially when a lot of the people behind a game's development aren't even brought to the spotlight. At the end of the day the people at Bhvr or any other company are people. So I feel like it's important to ask how they are, to know that they're doing okay. I take it as a personal tragedy when I find out someone isn't okay and would do all I could to make sure they felt better. I'd want someone to do the same for me, so why wouldn't I do that for someone else? Treat others how you wish to be treated, as my rule of thumb goes.
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I'm curious OP do you have like a clip or a time stamp of when your suggestion got addressed?
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Don’t be hard on yourself! I mean if M.Cote takes THAT the wrong way that’s on him but remember that whole civ 5 thing? He’s made mistakes too! No ones perfect especially BHVR0
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@βLAKE said:
I'm curious OP do you have like a clip or a time stamp of when your suggestion got addressed?36:22, round about. Mathieu cuts off what he's saying and repeats what I had written down in my suggestion.
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@Peanits said:
I don't think he's insulted by it at all. You brought up a good point and he just answered back why it's a little more complicated than it seems. You've got nothing to worry about, I don't think he hates you or anything.The underestimation of the complicity of the creation process of these sorts of cosmetic items is what I was worried about. I was trying to suggest a solution that seemed a lot simpler than having to remodel all other cosmetic items for a character when they wear a hoodie... Though considering now that a hoodie cosmetic would cover both the head and torso I doubt that having multiple hoodie exclusive options would matter.
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` @JammyJewels you are not a programmer or designer. You don't need to worry about asking about something and than being told what it takes texture wise to make it was a cool suggestion. That stream chat had way more offensive and upsetting things being said in it including things directed at the new community manager that were a bit over the line.
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