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Who are the killers who feel the game is unfair to them?
I'm a killer main but play survivor with a group. We are all red rank 1 survivors or have been at some time, so there isn't anyone better than any of us. We're all as good as it gets, as many players are.
None of us escaped a single match tonight and that has become a very common occurrence. In fact, of the last 10 times we have played, I'd say we have escaped maybe 2 or 3 matches out of the last 10 days of playing.
It's extremely rare.
And we are in party, coordinated, and as good as it gets, so I can't imagine where these killers are that think the game is hard.
I am a killer main and there are a number of killers I cannot use because they're so OP I feel guilty.
Michael, Freddy, Leatherface, Trapper, Oni. In all fairness hillbilly is op, too but I enjoyhim so much that I play him anyway.
As a killer, I see just how OP the killers are and I can't understand why killers complain. Of my group, we are all killer mains who only play survivor together and we unanimously agree the game is waaay too easy for killers and waaay too hard for survivors.
Almost very game we play as killer or survivor is 4k, so where are these killers who are having such a hard time? As much as I despite the phrase "git gud", with as much as the game gives killers advantage, I can't help but think if you're having a hard time, you need to work at it.
And when a new killer is released, it should take you AT LEAST a solid week of daily playing to get a 4k. The Oni was 4ks on his first day.
What happened to working? Practicing. Try watching games as survivor after you die.
We wish we could get paired up with these killers who have trouble but all we get is 4k killers. Usually toxic and the devs enable it and do nothing to prevent it.
Kill all 4 survivors in the basement in one round. Gee, that's not going to inspire camping.
I love this game, but it is bittersweet.
It comes with such anger and frustration. The injustice of already OP killers resorting to exploits, shady tactics, and unsportsmanlike behavior is a constant strain.
This game has actually profoundly hurt my perception of humanity. Granted it's all happening during MAGA days and Trump's horde of bigots, but all I see every day is how selfish the average human is.
No respect for others
No consideration
Just selfishness.
It's dark.
I have noticed I'm not as happy when I play this.
And I love it so I really wish the devs would discourage that bullshit.
It's an epidemic.
When a group of redrank 1 survivors play for hours without anyone escaping and it goes on for days... There's something wrong.
What I don't get is why our experience is all the same as eachother but so different than you.
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I play both killer and solo survivor in red rank. I would say the game currently is unfair to low mobility killer. High mobility killer still can play fair game.
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Anyone who plays survivor knows that killers are getting kills just fine.....which is what the devs have stated their data says time and time again.
Yet the forums and other online outlets are all full of the same doom & gloom comments about how killers are severely underpowered, none except the top 3 can get kills and that survivors are unstoppable.
I’m convinced a lot of it is perception. The gens do feel fast when you’re killer and I’ve had many killers post-game talk about how fast the gens were but as survivor I thought they went quite slow. Sometimes that time pressure can make the killer feel stressed out even if they win. I’ve had players rant, brought on by the intensity they just had in the game and yet they got the 3k or 4k in the game. Why rant like you were cheated if you won?
People need to remember this. I used to think the devs were full of bs a long time ago and I thought killers were underpowered based on genrush by elite swf squadettes but then I realised I was winning the vast majority of games or at least drawing.
Also at no point do people reflect on their own gameplay. Someone made a good point in here the other say about gen protection. In DBD its quite easy to get too caught up in the chases but sometimes you need to be smart about which gens you protect, how you want the endgame to play out rather than just chasing the first survivor you come across. This is what the devs tried to put across at the end of the stream I believe.
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What happened to working? Practicing. Try watching games as survivor after you die.
Why do that when the devs will just nerf perks for survivors like ruin and DR shouldn't the survivors work, learn and practice to overcome ruin? your telling the killers to get good but the survivors just get handed nerfs.
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Trapper, Hillbilly, Leatherface and Michael are op?*
sighs
I don't say anthing to that.
The downside sprial is just too real :|.
The only thing were you are right is imo, that there are a ton of selfish people out there. But those guys running also around in real life^^.
Besides that, there are a ton of reasons why killers can complain. Especially if we taking in our memorie that dbd is announced as a horror game and not as hello kitty online.
*About Oni I can nothing say since I have not play him as killer, or see him as surv. Just a few streams I have see with him, but that is nothing that gives anyone a first hand experience^^.
Edit: I think Hillbilly and Michael are strong but op... Comon... That can't be real. I take it as a joke, I guess.
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sooo how are these killers getting 4ks on your team?
Because you guys are doing something wrong for sure.
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Well by Leatherface I can at least imagine:
1 survivor got caught into the basement.
First survivor on mic: Hey he had hung me up in the basement, can someone please help me?
Second surv: Of course! Give me a second!
Second surv: Hey I am hung on the hooks in the basement, can anyone help me?
Third surv: ...
We all know this storys :).
Doing gens in that time would be better...
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Leatherface? op? You must be insidious camping if you think he's op lol
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Maybe you're not as good as you think if you don't escape that much as a 4 man swf. Oof
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I can only speak for myself but I escape most of the time or if I die I pip. Im rank 1 as survivor and playing in duo, sometimes 3 man swf. I even escaped the trials when doing the 10 sabo and 6 chest challenges. Ended my game session yesterday with 7 escapes in a row.
The times I died I screwed up badly or my team did some major mistakes. I cant help but see that playing killer takes much more sweat.
In my own killer experience red ranks got easier due to matchmaking, rank system and rank reset.
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Nurse nerf plus ruin nerf on lery is such a nasty thing. The most unfun experience in a video game despise that i get three kills often on that. Devs just don't know what they are doing please devs come play against me on lery with nurse i challenge you.
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You are the very reason why SWF do not have the escape rate they should have. Yikes.
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Try watching a few streamers to see where you are going wrong.
Not my words, but a quote from BHVR.
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Most of the people who play killer aren't necessarily saying that the game is unfair, but rather the game demands much more effort/skill/planning compared to playing survivor. Granted, this is sort of by design, but it is demoralizing to see the game becoming even more challenging with the recent nerfs to killer powers and perks.
(Also, weird way of inserting politics into a post about a game.)
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I only find it unfun when generators get pushed out so quickly my queue time was longer then the actual game
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Does no one realize this is a joke/bait post?
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You're definitely "as good as it gets" *cough*
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If I can get 4K-3k occasionally on Legion and Ghostface without Ruin as I barely ever used this perk Vs Red Rank survivors it’s clearly the killers issue and they need to get better. My most hated perk for survivors is Dead Hard as it help and sometimes save bad survivors that have been outplayed. BT DS and Adrenaline doesn’t bother me I don’t camp or tunnel so I’m hardly ever effected by these perks unless you really irritated me by click click flashlight or tbag. Or it’s endgame when I’ll the gens and gates are done.
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Literally no one asked for the ruin nerf blame the devs not survivors
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"we are as good as it gets". How was this determined? I'd like to see if I could still improve or if I'm already the best too.
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OP, that's what I'm asking myself too. Solo survivors rarely escape and stats prove that, but if you read all the Killer complaints on this forums, it seems that killers are usually getting 0k, which is of course not the case.
As someone already said, I think it's mainly perception. Killer mains are more egocentric, the role of a killer acts as a filter. More egocentric people, with lower social skills play killer and they would complain if they were getting 4k almost every game.
Another reason is, the killers that come here and complain and moan are mostly bad, as simple as that. They are the minority, but they are very loud, like little babies.
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