You nailed it damn well Space coconut

I'm not going to wade into all this. The only thing I'll add is @Peanits clarified that there was more killer perks. They just didn't mention the full list of perks they were looking at.

Being honest: If you only use whispers tier 1 its effectively a dead perk as its range is so wide its near useless.

Remember radius is exponential(Area = Pi x (Radius^2)) in how much a few more meters actually adds to the total size by a lot.

tier 1 has a 7238.2 meter area of detection.

tier 2 has a 5026.5 meter area of detection.

tier 3 has a 3216.9 meter area detection.

Quiet the difference in areas covered wouldn't you agree and how the first tier is so wide its useless.

Edit: please correct me if I am wrong. I do use this perk btw just tier 1 isn't even worth looking at.

Nobody says the lower tiers are useful. But IMO tier 1 & 2 of any perk shouldn't be used to qualify a perks usefulness. The game would be better off if they removed the tiers.

Anyways, you are making the same mistake as OP. You can find guides for using Whispers on Youtube if you want to learn how to use it.

The video is quite killer biased...but some of the points are hard to dispute such as the toolboxes.

If gen times are too quick without toolboxes than whatever is done to the toolboxes themselves are redundant.

Another was "don't worry about the first two gens, they are as good as complete". Might as well make the maps tiny in that case and have only 3 gens to complete.

A lot of these comments are focused on how coconut came across rather than looking at his points specifically.

On another discussion, Peanits said Monstrous shrine is being looked at, but needs a rework since just increasing numbers would make basement bubba into the meta

Wasnt Dying Light reworked like 3 months ago?.

If they want to RUIN the game.

That's their problem.

I don't much weight in Space Coconut's word just I don't do in the devs'. He's riding that wave of being the righteous controversial guy since he was barred on the forum. He's biased and has his own agenda, though. And that shows.

Killer perks have more synergy, that's why you see more variety. The only real universal killer perk was old Ruin, which they should've either reworked differently, or changed simultaneously with other balance improvements in maps, etc

Survivor have only those few perks that are truly meta, which is why those are the ones that you always see in the builds. The other ones are for fun, or specific purposes. They could buff many survivor perks and the meta perks would still be the same.

Well if saying how it is is getting under someone's skin.....ok then lol. Seems some have a lot to learn about the real world.

It's the typical "you cared enough to post" BS tactic that a lot of trolls like to use. Best to just ignore it.

Not that I think they've successfully gotten under your skin lol. Imagine that being a goal in your life? "I'm really good at upsetting people!" Congratulations, I guess.

Yeah, I was vehemently against the rift, and its tie in to the archives, because of this #########.

The archives are a great idea to give you more to do and learn/earn.

Making that the main source of rift fragments tainted it into another necessary grind to unlock things you dont need.

Shame really.

You're wrong. People don't get so angry about stuff they don't care about. The game makes them very passionate, so it's a good sign if it can evoke that kind of emotion. Some may just not express themselves in a mature/constructive manner, but they still care and/or like the game.

Cough Zanshin Tactics cough Monstrous Shrine cough Mindbreaker cough Unrelenting cough Huntress Lullaby cough Overcharge cough Unnerving Presence cough Overwhelming Presence cough Lightborn cough Furtive Chase cough.

Look up Steam charts dead by daylight from December 2017 to April 2017 it went from 17k and increasing down to 8.5k.

Edit: I am one of the older killer mains still left in DBD been playing since 2016. I was here when things went down. For example I remember the petitions from killers and the groups organized and what they did. At one point killers would just in mass stop playing. Queue times were crazy long. then others would stick around till the last second and dodge a lobby. How fun would that be to go back to that? If you did get a match it was either a survivor who was playing killer or a killer who just hook camped or afk'd in the corner of a map. Then there were the killers who d ranked to 15 or higher and just slugged all the new players to the point that the match would end once you bled out. No hooking, These are the things i remember right off the top of my head. And if you want to check out some of these things look up old youtube vids and steam forum chats.

How so? Jesus was in fact killed.

How do we know? All we know is that his tomb wound up empty and the only people who "saw" him walk away were his posse.

Hey, just watched your video. I rather liked it, it sums up a lot of issues and is worth a watch

The only issue with killer isn't generator times, but the inability to peel multiple generators. That's why the Ruin change, though great for new players, is generally viewed so negatively to seasoned players. It doesn't offer the momentum necessary for a lot of builds, or killer/addon combinations to get started. Once you have one player hooked, that's 2 players disabled, since one has to make the save. Find and chase a second player before that happens, and you've locked out three.

I think that's why a lot of killers feel so pressured. Most builds are static power, and ones with ramping strength tend to be vulnerable in hexes. (Ex: Huntress' Lullaby) I like that hex a lot, almost as much as Third Seal, but god forbid you ever get that thing going. Unlike Devour Hope, they apply a huge pressure for their duration without outright leading to a victory condition.

I, personally, liked trying to hook all 12 times, and would do everything in my power to make that happen when there was no risk of more than a single escape. Nowadays, it's pretty hard at upper ranks, unless the skill level is uneven, or the survivors make a lot of egregious mistakes.

I didn't mention that EVERY killer perk fits into a valid build, but rather the ones he mentioned. I agree that all those you mentioned are pretty bad, except Zanshin, Lightborn, and Overcharge. Those fit into builds, and Lightborn basically negates all flashlight blinds, as well as makes you recover from them faster at pallets and whatnot.

Zanshin is great on Trapper and Hag. Mainly a tool for beginners, and so is the survivor counterpart. Overcharge isn't bad either. Not as good as other perks that provide information. But, with the surveillance change, maybe this perk needs a rework if anything. Not that it's bad, but that a perk just does it's job better and more efficiently.