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You nailed it damn well Space coconut
Bhvr dosen't like you but oh well, you did an excellent job.
On a serious note...
Why rework 5, 6? Survivor perks and only one killer perk? Do killer perks don't matter? Monstures shrine don't matter?
Thrill of the hunt?
Thrilling tremors?
Dying light?
Insidious?!
Shadowborn?
Lightborn?
BEAST OF PRAY?!
etc etc a whole list of them
You couldn't do 3 survivor perks and 3 killer perks?
And why tell us "Oh killer players need to start using different perks"(is basically what you said) when survivor do the same with adrenaline, dead hard, just the usual survivor meta perks. Yeah yeah, stop the killer meta perks and keep the survivor meta perks.
And you couldn't make it more obvious at the beginning that you guys just want money with the "if you want to get theses challenges just buy the character.......w-we have them on sale!" Hmm I remember you guys saying the archives are meant for casual players, but the rift grind and having to buy certain characters JUST TO DO CHALLENGES, seem to say otherwise. Like instead taking the opportunity to make more money by the archives because you perfectly timed to have your dlcs on sale and so you can monetized, actually do something better and help players who can't do it because they don't have some of the DLCs and don't want to waste money on a character that they won't like later on.
You want to continue cratering to the low rank survivors or new players and rob them of their money? Then I would change how we can do the archives, cause the way you guys have it really not for "casual players" and new players will be turned away from it.
Anyways, good job Space coconut, doing us the truth.
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Jesus killer conspirators are crazier than area 51 nuts here
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ok this is mighty silly, you seem to have a victim complex, maybe forget about dbd and start playing something else.
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Killer perks (including the weaker ones) are much more stronger than survivor perks.
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That's just simple logistics. They have to be.
Although, Cruel Limits and Monstrous Shrine are comparable to Slippery Meat and such. They just don't have a use.
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Not a killer main if you are thinking that, I just know how bad this game is for killers, and thanks for adding nothing and just and insults, or random input, whatever that was you said.
Also it seemed you didn't read anything anyways, you responded to this just after a couple of seconds of being up.
Sounds like something a survivor main would say (not saying that you are), and really, killers in this game are really victims of being bullied in game alot. And I don't know how I am playing the victim card? Is basically restating something from a video playing the victim card? And I haven't played dbd for the past month after realizing how bad of a company Bhvr is and I don't plan to get back on it.
Not really, while yes their are some that are strong, almost all of them are never used because not because players don't want to use them, but because the perks don't really give any good synergy and/or are just weak.
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Its not just you, its this space coconut individual as well, trying to build a carreer on being the guy "who tells it to you straight man" this guy knows whats up man, the rest are just asleep.
Wake up yo!.
Seriously, quit this childish nonsense and play a different game then, drop DBD if you are this upset about how the devs handle it.
And just to put some of this sillyness in perspective, do you honestly believe it would be a bad thing for killers if survivors would start using some perks outside of the meta for a bit?
Idk about you but I cheer the devs on if only that would mean a reduced chance of DS,BT, DH, SB, Adren, Unbreak, etc.
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BHVR are putting fluoride in the tap water to weaken our minds and make us more willing to accept killer nerfs. I will be documenting my findings in a 13hr youtube video shortly, stay tuned.
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Buffing perks helps both sides. It one of the new buffed perks makes it into the meta it will relieve the boredom of facing DH/DS/BT etc.
Plus you're forgetting that many killer perks have been buffed in recent patches. Pop and Infectious Fright come to mind. I'll be interested in seeing how Cruel Limits will work with the new update.
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Lol hilarious how you use the video of an entitled salty killer main to try to prove a point
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I'm a killer main and honestly even I gotta admit, that guy's video indicates a VERY clear Killer bias. Like, I feel gen speeds are too much, I feel like killer is in a bad spot right now, but I STILL think he sounds way too far on one side of the fence.
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I really want to know why Whispers was on this list...
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Did you not read what I said? "And I haven't played dbd for the past month after realizing how bad of a company Bhvr is and I don't plan to get back on it." Or did it fly over you? I'm already guessing what your gonna ask next after this.
Who said I was against survivors using perks other than the meta perks? What I said was, why do 6 survivor perks and only 1 killer perk? Why not do 3/3? I want survivor to use more perks, it just doesn't makes sense, especially since how almost all killer perks are not that good, to just do 6 survivor perk and 1 killer perk.
I WANT them to make sure survivors have more perks to use and be better, but at the same time, players want more killer perks to be useful and have a reason to use.
And I won't surgery coat it, I do praise him only somewhat cause I know to take other people's opinions or statements/facts, but if you were to watch his videos (cause I don't know if you do or not), most things how he talks about (especially his "BHVR loves band aid fixes" video) he really does show how Bhvr works. Not saying he is the only one cause I know other youtuber or streamers do so as well, but he seems to be the only one who goes all out front and not worry about what he is saying or what the devs will do to him. And as well really showing and explaining how what the devs do lead up to this or that or how what they did was for this or that.
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That's rediculous...there is not 1 useless survivor perk...every perk can stack to decent effect
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Whispers and thrilling tremors are strong though.
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Wrong spies from the shadows us weaker than small game.
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Anyone with a good knowledge on how this game was back in 2016 and know how theses devs work and still know how bad of a spot killers are still it now would really sound like a killer biased person when really they are not.
I really only find whispers good on doctor and no other killer, and even at tier 3, looking for a survivor when your perk procs kinda waste time just looking for one survivor.
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Personally, I find whispers to be good only on doctor, and even at tier 3, your wasting your time looking for one survivor just because your perk proc and thrilling tremors you waste half of the time picking up the survivor and hooking them, because the perk does not proc when hooking them, and of course the long cool down makes the perk worse.
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The dude hears one small indication that maybe something of a killer might be looked at and states It's totally getting nerfed, it's being ruined, it's over, and then they mention hey maybe we will look into toolboxes and he is like "Don't believe it, it's not going to be anything, it's a sham" the guy obviously has a very one track, killer only mindset.
Sure there are folks that are going to believe everything he says, but there are plenty far more experienced killer mains who are content producers, offering far more balanced insight than he is.
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I find whispers pretty nice on any killer.
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Wow glad someone else picked up on the TydeTyme resemblance 😆 I was wondering if he was TydeTymes dad when I was watching the stream.
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There is only one way to fix a meta and its to make those perks so bad no one uses them or rework other perks so they are more used. I thought that would be common sense.
I thought the meta is what people have wanted changed up? I could be wrong but I'm sure it's been mentioned quite a few times.
Remember its not the first time this has happened for either side.
I wouldn't put to much faith into a random person who makes videos for money as they will automatically jump in the latest bandwagon and say what they think some want to hear for views. The person in question doesn't play survivor and has admitted they have never made it past rank 15 for instance so they wont have an unbiased viewpoint.
Always remember these content creaters are not game developers and most don't have even a slight bit of knowledge about what goes on or what it entails to actually make a product. If they did they wouldn't be making videos afterall. They know as much about it as an average gamer does.
At the end of the day it's just speculation for views.
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Up the ante, slippery meat to name 2 since Deliverance exists.
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"It's really not fun to go against someone using 4 perks that all do the same thing."
(Ignores that it's really fun to play against 16 second chance perks every match.)
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honestly
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Same i actually still run it on trapper and pig.
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Tydetymes say,hag is low tier when she clearly high tier.
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Your arguments about “weak” killer perks you mentioned is absurd. The real only perks that need changing are beast of prey. The rest fit into builds, and wether their niche or not, they fit into those builds well and make them possible.
Also whispers and thrilling tremors are amazing. I use whispers on a lot of killers (Pig, Plague, Huntress, Clown, sometimes Billy, Doctor, and really it works with every killer. Especially helps with early AND late game.
Thrilling tremors is better than BBQ, but people still run BBQ for the extra BPs (very guilty of this)
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It's nice to know I've gotten under your skin to this degree for you to make assumptions about my motivations. I make enough from the videos to buy a nice dinner from McDonalds once a month... it's a good thing I have a real job lol
I agree, Whispers is good if you can 3k on a regular basis. It's not so good with all the survivors on the map still.
The toolbox thing is more of a prediction. I wish I could tag this for a reminder if they ever change toolboxes to see if I was accurate or way off.
All in all, I'm enjoying the infamy this style of video is creating. I suppose it'll continue when the subject matter warrants it.
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I really liked that part at the end in which they tell killers to GiT Gud.
"There are plenty of streamers out there, go watch them and learn"....
All the way while hand holding their entitled survivors.
A bug FU to killers these Q&A.
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I disagreed with him heavily about DS being fine and I don't mind the monetization of The Rift, but everything else was pretty on point.
I don't get how they point at really good killer streamers to say killer is fine but then when it comes to survivor they point at low rank new players. Why don't we point at the survivor main streamers that regular broadcast Bully With Friends? It just seems like quite a double standard.
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Yeah maybe the right way of changing up the meta is not to
deletechange the meta perks so much that they are not viable anymore but make other perks as viable as the meta?Baffling that they do it to killers this way and for survivors it is okay so lets buff the useless perks, why not do it the same way for both sides?
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You are listening to one of the most biased Killer Mains. So it is not really worth watching him or valueing his opinion. I mean, of course, when you want to hear that, stay in your Bubble.
Besides that, Peanits wrote that other Killer Perks are also on their list, but not every Perk is easy to buff/rework. Some are small Number Changes and others are more complicated. And given the fact that quite a bunch of Killer Perks read nice, but are too weak, simple number changes will not do that much.
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I think you are in the ball bark on some things, it's just you don't seem to approach anything beyond a killer's point of view making it very hard to take much of what you say seriously. A lot of it is speculation and assumptions as well, but you put them forward as if they may be set in stone already.
I just don't agree with your points of view personally, you are certainly welcome to them though.
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Damn I better subscribe with notifications on so I don't miss it!
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I completely understand that, but people are distracted by the fact that I'm a killer main and don't know about the survivor sided videos I've made in the past. Or at the very least, the ideas I've presented that do take the survivor side into account.
Your life will improve by 10%. guaranteed.
**guarantees not guaranteed, consume coconut content with caution**
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I like your content and I say this as someone that doesn't have a problem with you, but you REALLY do have a massive killer bias dude. Your "considerations" for survivors are way out there and just not at all reasonable. Sorry, just sayin'.
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I dont understand why you dont just let it go? You dont play the game anymore. But you are still around here to trash it. Why hang on to a game that is run by dev's you obviously hate? You should take your passions and focus on something you like.
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Oh you can't get under skin its too thick. I just say how it is with these videos. I would never dream of trying to tell someone how to do a job they know far more about it than I but some are different I suppose.
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I'm just upset you guise let Deathgarden die in favor of continuing to complain about and play the far less superior, Dead by Daylight.
You deprived me of ever getting to play it when it launched on Xbox. Now not only is Deathgarden no more but Dead by Daylight is probably gonna die, too. Thanks, guise!
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The reaction I am seeing from people only reinforces my thoughts as to why the game has so many balance issues.
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You can say whatever you like, but making the post at all says otherwise lol.
The problem with Deathgarden was probably that it was impossible to balance. If a hunter had amazing aim they were unstoppable and then if their aim sucked (like mine) the game wasn't fun.
I honestly think it wasn't going to make it and I actually have the same feeling about the Predator game coming out. Aim is going to be a big deal and it might not be possible to balance well. I hope I'm wrong because I'm absolutely hoping it's done well.
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Difference is they're merely out classed..some killer perks literally cant even fit a niche to even a mild effect
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Yea I could see that being an issue but it's possible to get very good as a Scavenger and run circles around a good Hunter just like you can in DbD.
I hope Predator and that one mode in Resident Evil do well. Also hoping Last Year makes it to Xbox. This genre seems to be really hard to keep the wheels turning long term. I'm very surprised DbD even made it this far.
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Yea, its nice to let you know that someone is watching you while you set traps.
It's really nice on Wraith as well. Lets me know to not waste my time looking for survivors when it isn't lit up.
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More clickbait capitalising on outrage.
If you listened to half of his ideas and put them into the game it would kill the game overnight. Some of them are so one sided survivors would stop playing altogether.
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Bhvr has been pumping out killer reworks/changes every other month. Freddy, Nurse, Legion, Spirit, and now Doctor. Whether or not you think certain ones are good or bad, they're still working on killers. Survivors are just skins so if they want to put a little of both in a patch then they rework a killer and rework a couple survivor perks or a survivor item and its add ons. I'm not sure why this is difficult to grasp.
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lol I'm glad you think so highly of my ideas that they would have such a big impact on the game.
Which ideas are you thinking of in particular?
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What like coconut said, just responding to him is just proving his point.
And the way you just responded to him...that tone and slight attitude, is proving it more.
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Well, believe it or not but it's actually a good sign people are this angry and alarmist about the game as it means they like it a lot.
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Angry and like can't be put in the same sentence like that.
Also being angry does not equal likening something, that just dosen't make sense
Further more, a company can make someone so angry that they rather leave or stay and trash on it because they want to show how much they hate the company or said game.
So it's not a good sign
As well with too much hate in the community against the devs is very bad and can turn south with one wrong word or saying
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