One tiny nerf to Doctor

What people are you exactly talking about? Who means "takes mild effort to escape from" when saying annoying?

You are comparing the cooldown of Legion to the slightly increased cooldown of Doctor I am talking about? Which again I explained why I would want this cooldown so anyone who understood my post would never get the idea to compare these two cooldowns.

I'm sorry but ythat makes me believe you do not understand what nerf I am suggesting. The only thing I am suggesting here is to make the counterplay of dodging Doctor's shock therapy just a tad more viable.

Yep you might be right. I'm aware that I might be overlooking certain other ways to counterplay him. I think I've just realised one more counterplay, if you would call it like that, since I made this post. I think I just wanted to make this post, simply because I do fear that more people might start arguing that he has too little counterplay in chases, so I wanted to explain how I believe survivors could receive just a bit more counterplay, without hurting the Doctor in any significant way.

I'd be pretty disappointed if they nerfed Doc by increasing the charge time of his shock therapy for example, since that would be a nerf to his chase potential, without actually increasing the counterplay of survivor in any way. I do believe the devs would realise this though if they did decide to nerf Doc.

But I'd be very glad if he never ever got touched again. He has now become without a doubt one of my absolute favorite killers in this game. And I really love going against him as well.

This post is honestly just sad. I don't feel like I should need to explain that forums are there for people to express their opinion. If you don't agree that's fine, but calling me stupid? I can only laugh about that. And no I am not a survivor main. I main killer.

I guess that's not really counterplay but more just depending on where you are on a map, but nevertheless something that can be considered when talking about the effectiveness of his shock therapy in chases, that's very true.

Again, so offensive. That's really not healthy if people with different opinions on a game get you so triggered. I just made this post because I got the feeling that more people might start complaining about Doctor not having enough counterplay, so I wanted to suggest what I would nerf if the devs decided to have to nerf Doctor. Since this change would only make a certain counterplayof survivors slightly more viable, and nothing more.

This also has nothing to do with any other balance changes. In fact, I wouldn't want to see any more nerfs to any killer before they buff some of the weaker killers, and maybe rework a few more maps.

I'm also not sure why you are saying NOED or Pop will be nerfed. All they said is that they want to maybe nerf the synergy between slowdown perks, the perks themselves will not be nerfed. And NOED isn't even a slowdown perk .

Yet another angry nerd that immediately needs to get offensive. It's not really healthy that opinions of other people regarding a video game get you this triggered.

Also, these are the forums, people are allowed to post their opinions on certain matters. I've clearly explained why I would suggest this small nerf to Doctor in my main post, showing that I do have experience with playing Doctor. I didn't just make these observations up. Did you at least read the actual thread?

I'm not a survivor main. No matter how much you want to believe that, lol. And these kind of posts aren't immediately the reason killer powers get nerfed. Only if the devs see that many people agree on certain issues. The devs do have brains themselves. They don't just go and look for the next suggested killer nerf on the forums and then implement it.

I do tend to think about both sides though, which is why I made this post, simply because I feared survivors might not have a fair amount of counterplay against Doctor. That and I wouldn't want the Doctor to be nerfed in any wrong way so it ends up making him too weak again. But I guess if people do that they must be a survivor main. But actually, no that's not the case.

I do get this is an early post on this matter, which is why I stated in my main post that I'm only talking about a scenario in the future in which the devs decide that they need to nerf Doctor in some way, because people feel like the counterplay against Doctor is too little. And that this would be a good way to simply add a bit more counterplay to Doctor, without hurting him in any significant way.

I'm actually happy to see that pretty much everyone agrees that Doctor does not need any nerf. So please stop with these immediate and ridiculous accusions towards people that have a different opinion than you.

Actually, I'd argue it's more than 95% that disagree with me here, and that's totally fine. That's what forums are for as well. To see what opinions people don't agree with at all. However, some people here were able to reply to me in a normal and civil way, some of them giving arguments as to why they disagree with me. Which is always welcome in threads. And again, it makes me happy to see almost everybody disagreeing with Doctor needing a nerf.

And then there are the people who just get immediately offensive and upset about someone else having an opinion that's different to theirs, sometimes even insulting those people. And I don't care one bit about those people. Of course they can reply to me, I just don't see how anyone would take these kind of people serious. I certainly don't. Especially since we are talking about a video game. A freaking video game. How does one get so personal about that?

Well sure that's true, but in that case many people complained about those certain things. If they see that many people are unhappy with something in this game, the devs will at least take a look at it. I just meant they won't just see my post and think that that's a great nerf, then go ahead and implement it. Pretty much everyone here disagrees with me.

Well I agree with you there. I do want devs to balance more maps and buff weaker killers before they nerf any other killer. If anything, I just thought that if more people would complain about Doctor not having enough counterplay, this is the change I would like to see.

No idea why some people here are going absolutely nuts though. I even said in my main post that this more about if the devs decide to nerf Doctor.

Try and shock survivors whenever they are about to reach a pallet, and loop them around pallet loop. Trust me, at most normal loops you'll have to do this two times approximately, and then you'll catch them and get a hit against them. Unlike with old Doc, you can now catch up to survivors whenever they go for another loop if you deny them the pallet with your shock therapy whenever they approach the pallet.

Well I am the OP lol.

See my only concern is that more and more people will feel like there is too little counterplay against Doc because he can just shock you whenever you approach a pallet, so all you as a survivor can do is keep running around the loop until the Doctor catches up to you and then gets a hit. Which is why I suggested the increased cooldown. This way, survivors could try and dodge your shock, and afterwards still have a short time to reach a pallet or window to use against a Doc.

This does work occasionally even now, but in most cases, you outposition yourself when trying to dodge Doctor's shock therapy. So by doing that he gets a hit against you anyways. If Doctor had a slightly longer cooldown, survivors that manage to dodge his shock therapy would have a short time where the Doc can't attack them, being able to get to a pallet or vault before he can hit you again.

Pretty much just making that one counterplay of survivors a bit more viable. But as I said, this is a very early post on this matter and it was more just meant as a just in case post. Just in case the devs do feel like Doctor will need a nerf, I think this would be by far the best way to nerf Doctor. Because he would still be very strong in chases despite this nerf.

The more I play as him, and especially against him, the more I agree that he doesn't need a nerf though. Some survivors have shown me some good counterplay while playing as him in the meanwhile, and it seems like most people agree that he doesn't need a nerf.

I think he will only end up needing a nerf if most maps become much fairer for killer. Simply because his map pressure with Static Blast becomes better the smaller a map is, so at some point it might be needed to town down his chase potential just slightly. But we'll see about that.