Recent ruin nerfs made 70% of the killers unplayeable+ Rank system broken

Yeah well if people were seriously that dependent on ruin to be somewhat decent then good riddance.

Mat, the lead dev said the same thing back in the day on a stream and look where that ended.

No offense btw

Ah I see what you did there. Clever

yall, quit whining already and learn to play the game. imagine being dependent on ruin loool

2.9 gens good enough?

Well from the recent Dev Q&A it seems like they’re going to nerf toolboxes which seems fair considering how easy it is to gen rush at high ranks now. The question is though, will it be enough?

doubt

I 100% agree, OP. I want my money back.

I've had this game for several years and, honestly, if I would have known that it was going to turn into a survivor playground where a killer is just present but basically powerless, I would not have spent a penny.

I've bought every DLC, both Rift passes and have gotten three friends to buy this game and I regret all of it and seriously feel like it's the duty of the Devs to just refund me for all of it. It was falsely advertised and it's been mishandled repeatedly.

My survivor matches are over in like 4-5 minutes now and often I have minimal contact with the killer because they are too busy sweating their asses off trying to aPpLy PreSSuRe to actually do anything. My killer matches are almost guaranteed to be a bad time unless I play with one of three killers, which is boring AF and means I wasted my money on the rest of them.

I want my money back.

P.S. Dont listen to the people who are saying "Get Gud," they have likely never played killer in their life outside of yellow ranks, or just never at all, and have become entitled by all the privilege the devs have given them and their swf buddies.

The remaining true rank 1 killers.

I've oddly done well with the Ruin changes. I've stopped seeing the bad player's bringing toolboxes and dedicated gen builds last few days. They are starting to realize it's bad and boring for game health.

Here's the kicker I play a play a lot of Trapper, Hag, and Pig all of which are bad for the current meta as your post states. I feel more like instead of actively pursuing a path to getting better your still being held back by the memories of Ruin. I never enjoyed the RNG of Ruin so I moved past it a long time ago.

You mention rank a lot about how it appears at high rank, but truthfully Rank has not mattered for a long time. Ya it gives some indication of skill, but mostly it gives more like "Time Invested Into the game". With the recent changes to rank reset you'll see a lot more boosted people then ever before. People that clearly should not even be green rank at red ranks.

I think you suffer because of the lack of experience on Killer or your overcommiting more then you should with people. Both Oni and Demogorgan are viable at any rank, but you need to learn when and where to push and give ground.

Either way I wish you luck.

No

HeavenRoad : "Recently I bought Oni and demo because they looked fun. Well theyre both unplayeable now."

Also Me : *Always use Demogorgon for piping in red ranks without Ruin*

// I really wonder how did you played him? becuase I always play him as a gen protector.

I usually get 4K when there are 1-2 gens left and it's fine since the new gatekeeper emblem system, only few times that I got 0K if the survivors side are really good.

As long as people keep complaining BUT CONTINUE TO PLAY THE GAME AND BUY DLC, what reason do you give the devs to change anything? Zero reasons. The only way to effect change is with your money and time.

Stop worrying about toxicity in the game. There's currently 0% chance that anything will be done about it. Instead, challenge yourself by playing with different perk combinations, add-ons and even Killers that are not considered strong. Don't EXPECT a 4k every game.

Come up with your own reasonable win condition or some positive outcome as a goal for each game - something that you can achieve easily. For example, try to have multiple survivors in the injured state at the same time; just make up some silly goals for yourself that you know you can achieve; the main thing here is to maintain a positive mental attitude.

Avoid Hex perks, if you can. Hearing that explosion and seeing one of your perks destroyed does not help your confidence.

Identify and Target the weaker survivors. Don't play nice and don't play by made up survivor rules - slug every chance they give you. Look for free hits. Maximize every opportunity to gain momentum. Be disruptive.

My game goals/activities (these vary with each killer just be creative):

- 1 hook within 60 seconds.

- 3 in Injured state simultaneous

- 1 Slugged and 1 Hooked simultaneous

- End one chase within 20 seconds by downing survivor

- 1 grab (on hook save, gen or vault)

- Red glow Mind game survivors at a loop 3 times

- Hook snipe 2 Survivors

I think you get the point. Just make up little silly challenges before and during each game. The main thing here is to find little victories throughout the game to stay positive.

You and I both know how incredibly easy it is to play Survivor, which is why more people play Survivor. Keep that in mind as you play. As the Killer, you're playing an incredibly difficult game. Set some reasonable expectations for yourself and keep your chin up which will go a long way in strengthening your competitive mental attitude and prevents the weak-mindedness that so often pushes players to take the easy road of Survivor-main.

Yeah. I love playing at red ranks and repeatedly running into the same survs. I have a few of them friended now because i keep seeing them like every game. Worst part is that half of them are toxic af and i see them every game. I just run some killers and loadouts for fun and not to win. But since i went against them before they feel like they have to be toxic af and make sure to brag if they get out.

But hey, max queue time is like 30 seconds. So yay?

I’ve had a gen be done within 40 seconds of the start of a match as trapper, the major problem with this change is like everyone else has said they made it too early and they made it without thinking of the consequences they had a ptb but that was useless since they didn’t listen to our feedback. The ruin changes destroyed slower killers like trapper who needs time to set up traps around the map that’s easily a minute or 2 of your time wasted and before I’d be okay with losing a gen or 2 but I’d be setup with good traps now if you do that unless you have corrupt and even corrupt isn’t as good you will lose 3 gens. They should made changes to the maps since some maps are still god awful before introducing this new ruin.

You are implying the only way to do well before the update was to use ruin, which is false. I stopped using ruin almost a year ago, and still frequently 3k as any killer. I get adept achievements in one of my first 3 games as new killers after each update (in red ranks).

A lot of killers are struggling right now because the way they play has been forcibly changed. It is understandable that many are feeling too weak. After a period of adjustment, they will learn to play without ruin and do as well as they did before.

Another day another ruin thread