Facecamping Bubba is NOT BANNABLE
Yes, I'm protesting the ruin change.
Yes, I'm going to facecamp you.
But no, it's not holding the game hostage and no I'm not going to get banned.
Do gens and get out. Stop feeding me kills LOL.
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ok
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I mean, you're technically right...
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this is ridiculous and nobody is going to care about this, you're just ruining fun for yourself and random people.
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Sure it is. They change all sorts of things cause survivors rage and dc.
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I'm doing it too, I lose pips but honestly is ok, I don't have to deal vs tryhards at least.
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Rage threads are pretty prominent and effective as well as consistently taking in game actions like DCing. They will pay attention to why people are not having fun and change it.
Killers probably would have been fine with ruin change if they actually addressed the gen speed issue that caused it to be so overused.
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"Gen speed issue"
Hold up, what's wrong with gen speeds all of a sudden?
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The only thing Killers are going to achieve with this kind of camping is a massive nerf to camping or Kindred as basekit.
In other note, most forum posts raging and complaining about Ruin were killers themselves and they were always the same "Ruin totem gets find too soon" or "Ruin should work after cleanse for [insert absurdly high number] minutes" or "Ruin should be basekit and not Hex".
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You’re just assuming that the decision to change Ruin was the result of constructive feedback. It was most likely the result of the massive amount of disconnects that has resulted from Survivors rage quitting as well as the constant complaining.
Survivors dc against Spirit = Spirit nerf
Survivors dc against old Doc = Doc reworked with nerf to “Snap out of it” and make him more fun for survivors.
Survivors dc against Nurse = Nurse nerf to the point where she is almost unplayable except by the best of best players.
Survivors can’t handle getting camped and dc = BBQ&Chili introduced to promote killers to not camp for the survivors benefit.
Survivors DC because of tunneling= DS introduces to make survivors happy.
So yes, many changes have been made because Survivors are poor sports and ragequit. DC’s are probably the best statistic for devs to take notice.
Killers should start doing the same.
* Large map loads in which the killer can’t hope to patrol without being sweaty? They should DC.
* Survivors bring in a toolbox to speed up the match whereas the killer wants a slower one? DC
* Survivors bring in a key? DC
* Survivors bring a flashlight, especially now with how they’re bugged to instantly blind a killer, DC.
If enough killers start to DC and make the game miserable for survivors just as Survivors DC against things they don’t like, Devs will react.
And don’t tell me that Survivors don’t DC as much as the forums claim they do. I play Survivor for most of my matches and everyday, several matches in that day, a Survivor DCs. They don’t care about how it affects the teammates, nor do they care about wasting the Killers time. Why should Killers care how Survivors feel?
I mean, it’s worked for Survivors so far, if killers can’t beat their strategy, maybe they should copy it.
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Yup. I don't care about pips. Though surprisingly, I pip every few games so I haven't dropped that fast.
Ruin made people look for totems first, so gens didn't pop right away. Granted sometimes Ruin did only last 10 seconds or so, but more often than not it slowed the game down. Made it so you could put your traps up, or set up your patrols. Now, gens pop before you can get the first down.
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Early game gens are being done too fast, thats why people used ruin
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It's been a long time problem with the game especially as the player base ages and gets more efficient at things. People have been asking for either an increase to time to complete gens or a 2nd objective for over a year. Ruin was like the last thing keeping killers afloat.
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This "protest" will accomplish absolutely nothing. Enjoy your boring games staring at a hooked survivor lol
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I wonder what are survivors mad at, since they abuse the most broken mechanics in the game to make every killer feel miserable.
BT into DS into Head on
Broken toolboxes
God mode SWF with no negatives
######### map offerings
Infinites
They are all valid, abnoxious as fuk to go against.
But hey, it's a killer problem, so screw it.
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Well said.
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Seems like a waste of perfectly good free time to me.
But then again, anytime I'm THIS upset with the game, I just don't play and let the numbers speak for themselves.
"Punishing" the playerbase for a decision they had no part in seems counterproductive to me, but it's your right.
Frankly, I think both sides of this community have gotten over melodramatic and just need to GTF over themselves already.
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Soon this will be changed ...
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If you want to do it, then it's ok for me.
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While you are allowed to play the way you want, some playstyles end up making you look like an ass.
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You are technically correct but morally wrong.
Do what you will though you can only do it until the next game update, when leatherface rework hits.
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Who are you to decide what is fun and not? Just be happy the game have more playstyles then one.
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Nice flex.
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Sure, but I hope you're aware that the only way you can actually make any sort of statement whatsoever/"protest" is by simply not playing the game. But lets not remember classics like screenshots of the "Boycott Left 4 Dead 2" steam groups with the entire group in-game before talking about gaming boycotts 🤣
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I mean for other people on the receiving end? Yeah they can easily say it's not fun, and you can't tell them their obvious lack of enjoyment is false.
Thankfully this playstyle won't be a thing for too much longer, next major update Leatherface is getting a rework, and I highly doubt they are going to leave his chainsaw camp in the game because it's 100% inescapable.
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Who said it was?
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It not bannable and beside you shouldn't unhook against a bubba especially if it camping.
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What an absolute legend!!!! Fighting in a video game because you didn’t get your way. Awesome.
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So without ruin you just get yourself gen rushed harder while face camping. What a pro gamer move my dude. Slug them instead. Forces them to come off a gen to try to get them up and the bleedout timer keeps them out of the game longer. Bring Knock Out for extra spicyness in the game.
If you're gonna be a toxic killer, be the MOST toxic you can be.
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Protesting about a videogame lol, smh.
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Pray tell why else would the devs make these changes if it wasn’t for Survivors complaints?
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Lol protesting for a perk that got destroyed in the first minute of the game on almost every game and then became completely useless, hilarious🤣
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-Killers complain about borrowed time making two survivors invincible after saving someone from the hook, borrowed time gets a massive nerf where now only the person getting unhooked gets the endurance status effect.
-Killers complain about the abuse of balanced landing in maps such as Haddonfield, balanced landing gets nerfed.
-Killers complain about MoM being too op, MoM gets nerfed to the point where it's nearly useless.
-Killers complains about maps having too many pallets, the distance between pallets is increased and now you can't have two pallets spawn in the same location.
-Killers complain about infinite loops, many windows in many buildings are blocked with 2x4s and now infinites are gone for good.
-Killers complain about the way exhaustion works, they change the way exhaustion works so that you don't recover while running.
So yes, many changes have been made because killers are poor sports and rage quit too. Do you want me to keep going?
Also, just as a reminder, dc penalties are coming😉
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There is a difference in complaints about things that are broken and things that are just a nuisance. Most of the things you mention were broken. Had they remained in the game Survivors would be playing a longer version of lobby simulator.
Ruin wasn’t broken and had easy counters. You could cleanse the totem, gen tap, hit great skill checks, or you could power through it and every time you hit a regular skill check you could just let go for 2 seconds.
Killers had no counter to Borrowed time protecting two survivors.
Killers had no counters to infinite loops.
Killers had no counters to maps with too many pallets.
Killers would have no counter to survivors running more than one exhaustion perk if Exhaustion wasn’t reworked.
And yes, Killers complained in the past, I’m not denying it, I’m just saying since Survivors DC as much as they do when faced with things they don’t like, that killers should do the same. Maybe the devs would work faster to correct them.
How long have killers been getting matched with survivors way out of their ranking?
How long has the sound been bugged for killers like nurse?
How long did nurse and wraith have their lung work improperly?
Flashlights are bugged to instablind now, how long is that going to take to get fixed? Should a killer DC and rush to the forums every time they got blinded?
How much rage was on the forums when survivors were dealing with the basement glitch/bug? Granted it’s more severe that the flashlight bug, but it makes it miserable for killers, and gives survivors an unfair advantage. Imagine if keys or flashlights stopped working for survivors, the fix would be here in two days.
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Sorry I forgot to mention bloodlust, self care nerf and Freddy's rework which made him a top tier killer. I'm not saying that there isn't a difference buddy, I was trying to point out the fact that the devs do listen to killers as well because your first comment was incredibly killer biased and that's not fair.
Yes, it had easy counters but only if the survivors were experienced. When I started playing this game two years ago ruin was so annoying because I could barely hit normal skill checks and I didn't know where to find the totem, it was really tough and almost every ruin game ended up with the killer getting a "ez 4k". I felt like I just wanted to leave the game because it was boring and frustrating to know that if there was a ruin in the game I had almost 0 chances of winning. As time passed I got used to ruin just being there and I started to be able to hit hex skill checks, so I was starting to feel better and I started to play even more to the point where now I don't have trouble hitting great skill checks or finding totems around the map. But I still remember the way it felt when I couldn't hit the damn skill checks or find the totem easily so that's why ruin did need a nerf because of how incredibly frustrating it could be for new survivors, however I do think they nerfed the perk too much to the point where it is now useless.
Just as much as survivors have been getting matched which stronger killers, matchmaking is broken for both sides.
They are aware of all those issues but they can't just fix stuff in 5 days dude, the patch came out what 6 days ago? I mean it takes time be patient. DS is incredibly bugged as well and they haven't fixed that either.
And no there's no such thing as "fixing an issue in two days", it hasn't been done ever before and it never will be done because fixing game issues is not that simple.
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I agree that I sound a little biased. Believe it or not, I consider myself a survivor main. About 80-85 percent of my games are survivor. I prefer teamwork roles in online games. It just seems that the forum is so survivor sided that I feel like I need to point out the frustration of playing killer in this game.
Ruin itself wasn't the problem with new survivors. The problem was matchmaking and ranking. If matchmaking and ranking worked as they are supposed to, new survivors would rarely ever be faced with Ruin because they would be matched up with new killers in similar rank. Most new killers wouldn't have Ruin since Hag needs to be purchased and leveled up past 30 in order to unlock it. All the frustration you felt when you first started to play against Ruin would have been avoidable if the Developers fixed matchmaking a long time ago.
The problem many killers have is that Ruin was a band-aid and now it is gone and the wound is gushing. They removed it without implementing any base fixes that are needed. To make things worse, so many survivors wouldn't even try to see it from the killers perspective. They would just come on here and say "quit complaining, you were relying on a crutch, and (worse of all) git gud". I don't expect bugs to get ironed out in two days, but matchmaking isn't a bug and it is something any game should prioritize from its inception.
I don't deny that the Devs do listen to Killers. It's just they usually seem to be put on the back burner unless it is something that would cause Killers to drop off like flies such as BT giving both survivors immunity or the many infinite loops that used to exist.
As for Killers DCing in protest to things they don't like, why would that be any worse than when Survivors do it when they faced the old Doctor? Almost every time I faced him a teammate or two DC'd at the start of the match or as soon as they faced him. I am pretty sure the DC statistics against him were pretty high, as well as the answer to the after game survey of "did you have fun" was only given a 1. If that's what it takes to get the devs make changes, then killers should do it too.
Also, I want to thank you for not insulting me or making fun of me in any way. Its nice to converse like this online for a change <3
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Surprisingly I get a large number of 3 and 4ks doing this, so I don't need to.
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Just got a 4k against a quad of Claudettes with 4 toolboxes. This is too much fun!
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The thing is there's more survivors than killers out there so that's why the forums always seem a little bit more survivor sided I guess. But yeah I get where you're coming from.
When I began playing this game 60% of my rank 15 games were against Hags with ruin though, trust me on that one. But yeah matchmaking is very very broken I agree on that with you.
Gen speeds are a serious issue as well, I hate when I go into a game and my team repairs all 5 gens in 5 minutes and I didn't even get to run from the killer once or do something interesting. So I have been thinking either they need to do something with the gen speeds or make it so we need to repair 7 gens instead of 5 because at the moment the game's not as interesting as it used to be and matches tend to end quickly.
I mean yeah lately they've been fovusing on nerfing killers more than survivors and I can't deny that but oh well, it's really hard to achieve balance in this game it really is.
To be honest, everyone should discuss these kinds of things like this, in a civilized way. Because being toxic and insulting each other is not gonna get us anywhere, we as a community are trying to build a future for this game because we enjoy it and so how can we focus on the greater good if we're out there throwing sh1t at each other? Lol I'm glad we were able to have a normal discussion, I wish everyone could discuss things like you my friend.
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The only thing that would have made conversing with you better is if your Avatar was a Shirtless David. <3
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I don't even know how to change my Avatar lmfao
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The only thing you accomplish with this 'protest', if it'll accomplish anything at all, will be a nerf to Bubba's camp.
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You won't get banned, but you will get in my black list, and hope not to find me as killer when you play survivor :D
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Because THAT has ever worked out for killers right? Like ALL of the feedback for the Ruin change that was completely ignored because the devs already made up their mind on changing it.
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Your be surprised just how much it works... Was screwing around with it for awhile and got WAY too many 3 and 4ks, lol.
The ironic part of this game was the first person I caught had kindred...
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Bubba's Basement is a legitimate tactic
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I mean sure
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You forgot to add legion's DC statistics where used as part of his nerf's justification too.
They literally said the nerfs worked because legion's DC rates dropped by 80% not that is actually balanced out the killer.
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Seems like you just created this forum post for attention.
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Theres nothing cuter than an insidious camping Bubba, i always feel the need to go up and poke him. Hes a wee cutie.
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What reasoned thread? Devs don't care about killers agenda/prospect. If making the game less fun for survivors wakes the devs up, then i'm all for that, what? Only killer not supposed to have fun? Get off you high horse for a change, if devs only listen to survivor, let them rant and figure out the mess they have conjured themselves
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