Survivors! Your tactics against the new meta "Tunneling" and killers your best "tunneling strats"

How is BT helping YOURSELF? It's more like helping a tunneled mate. But if you yourself get tunneled it's useless. Iron will instead could help more by losing the killer

And that's why i added "protecting the team from one"

Agreed about IW being a good choice for yourself.

To be fair, My friends and I actually seem to have a better Survival rate with the increased tunneling. We are upset that we feel like we are forced to run meta based perks now as we used to like playing odd perks like Break out and Flip Flop.

But our pretty standard build and stratergy is as follows:

• Borrowed Time - We actually ran this before the ruin change, as killers already heavily favored tunneling people off hook.)
• DS - 2 or 3 of us run this now.
• Unbreakabill - At least 2 of us run this perk
• Kindred - Yes even though we are SWF, its still a great perk to run, however, only one of us generally run it at a time.
• Dead Hard - 2 or 3 people run this.
• Iron Will - Most of us run this, it has nothing to do with the game, we just hate hearing ourselves moan and run it to gag the characters.

So how do we play. While it slightly changes based on if the Killer is camping or Tunneling or both.

• Lets start off as camping, generally we just let that person die allowing us to complete 3 gens at once. This is actually just a great strategy for camping in general. More Solo people should run Kindred for this reason.
• Next is tunneling - We actually started basically doing the same thing. If the killer is proxy camping one of us will try to bait him away, if he doesn't take the bait, we just go and complete 0.65% of 3 gens or pop 1 to 2 gens. We generally wont go for the save until the last second of stage two. At this point we rely on the killer tunneling the Borrowed Time DS user instead of going after the rescuer and can generally pop 1 to 2 gens again before that person dies.

Basically unless we start ######### around or playing stupid, we have on average gotten a 2-3 Survivors our against camping or tunneling survivors. Surprisingly we have had less success against killers who do not tunnel or camp.

The problem is survivor meta perks can be completely pointless 90% of the game. For example, when I play killer, even though I see these perks a lot I rarely ever see them in game.

• Borrowed Time - I started with this one first, as its one of the few meta perks people complain about that I run and Its the only one I ever really see in my games. As I prefer to not chase the injured survivor off hook I will go for the rescuer. The only reason I see BT is because the injured person tried body blocking or I stayed to close after I downed the rescuer, s I hit them and then pick up the downed survivor.
• DS - Though I see this perk fairly often, its probably 90% of the time within an exit gate as I had not tunneled all game, so they didn't get to use it til than. Or I see it by them forcing me to use it by just running at me. Other than that, even though I see 2-3 survivors running it every game, I might only see it used 1 outta 5 games
• Unbreakabill - To be honest, unless I can down another survivor within 30 seconds, I don't leave someone slugged long enough to use the perk.

Basically most survivors perks are literally pointless it 4 outta 5 of my games. Borrowed time being the only weird exception, because yes I see it, however, I usually get a hook and you are off mending, so it works both ways.

EDIT: Forgot to clarify my point, My point is, I think survivors builds are more based of how a killer plays than a killers build is based of how a survivor plays. I can't think of a single perk I run that is because of something survivors do. Maybe Franklins if I see 4 flashlights? However, even though I used to run less meta perks when playing survivor, due to the increased camping and tunneling, I am running this perks more often.

Yes and no, It really depends on what you consider "winning" Because yes, my standard of playing the game may not always count it as a "win". The way I see it there are a few different ways people define a win.

• First you have the pipping/ranking/emblem system (which is horrible). If you look at then no pip is a loss, a black pip is a tie, one white pip is a win and 2 white pips is above and beyond. Using this example, I either tie or win with either a single or double pip more games than not.
• Second Method THE ***4k or No K Okay*** Method. I actually hate people that think they need to 4k every single game and that a killer should 4k every game. You're basically saying My side is the only side that should have fun, you are supposed to die every single game. This is about the only method I disagree with.
• Lastly you have the self defined, which is my personal favorite method. It lets you set the terms of what a win and loss in the game is. The games ranking and emblem system is such a joke, why care if the game says you won or loss?

I’ve not noticed any change. Killers always camp and tunnel. They always have. Nothings new.

Usually, tunneling killers are also camping killers. I love to take Kindred because of that. It's kinda funny seeing the aura of the killer, waiting and waiting by the hooked survivor but instead hearing generator after generator going off because the rest of us know he's camping.