Otz vs Ayrun fun vs frustration

I feel sorry for Otz here, but I also don't condemn Ayrun for using Head On. It's a meme perk so of course they're gonna laugh their asses off when they get it to work.

The only time Head On becomes BS is when people start back-to-back abusing it to stunlock the killer for 12 seconds.

Yea that's what I thought. I guess this could be one explanation of the great divide between the two sides. What really baffles me is why someone would only advocate for one side even though neither are anything without the other.

My thoughts exactly, but apparently Otz got very sensitive during this game.

Imagine complaining about an exhaustion perk which gives you less distance AND is more situational than the other exhaustion perks because if the entire survivor team devotes their time to meme and throw the game it can be a minor annoyance to the killer

They got dumpstered in that game.Both sides can use meme builds and throw the game to have fun.

Head on is fine. Calling for nerfs for every perk weakens the argument for perks that actually should be nerfed.

I can definitely see where people like this are coming from.

I've been in red ranks for quite some time now. I feel like if I were to tryhard I'd play exactly the same game every single time. I know my limits and I feel like I can call the outcome of a match the vast majority of times.

It's SO MUCH MORE FUN to try silly stuff. My Chest Guardian Bubba games are usually more entertaning than standard killer gameplay, and running MoM+Pebble is probably more fun than playing normally as survivor. But ultimately this is what I feel this game should be about. Less competitive, more silly.

Really hope you're trolling

I first started watching Ayrun because of Ussylis, and I like his build videos. Admittedly the "toxic" playstyles him and others like Noob3 employ are not exactly my style but hey it's content. Who do you prefer to watch?

I like Zubatlel, Umbra, Monto, Streamdad, and I loved Hybridpanda until he retired.

Otz was the Hillbilly, but ok

I think the draw of playing both sides is different.

Personally, I consider myself a killer main, but I do play a lot of survivor too, it's just that I almost exclusively play survivor as part of a 3-man SWF group and very rarely alone.

When we play SWF, it is pretty similar to Ayruns experiences, we just mess around and have fun. We're all red/purple ranks but to be honest none of us are really that good at the game, a fact which doesn't really matter as we consistently get ranked against killers who are far less experienced than us anyway. None of us are really toxic, clicking flashlights teabagging etc. but simply by virtue of knowing the game and being organized as a team we get flashlight saves etc, we even get MoM to procc fairly often for what its worth.

Often I feel pretty bad for the killers we win against (we lose a lot of games too mind you), because some of our behaviour is borderline bullying from another perspective (although its not intended that way, but when a killer spends 3 gens going for 1 chase only to get pallet stunned whilst holding the survivor it can't feel good at all), but we spend most of our time laughing and bantering around the game, and for me at least that is the main "pull" of playing survivor alongside trying to win.

Killer on the other hand is a completely different game, it's like comparing AoE II (Killer) to Halo 3's Big Team Battle mode (Survivor). I go in knowing that I may potentially (Mostly due to the RNG of survivor skill, map and items) have to give every ounce of my brainpower to get through the game. I enjoy playing games for this reason.

The gap between survivor and killer in DBD is IMO huge, they're like completely different games, but I think theres nothing inherently wrong with that. The fact that killer makes you sweat is, for me atleast, actually its attractive point. Sure maybe at the moment its potentially too survivor sided with insane maps like the farm maps mixed with a very, very solid meta strategy on the survivor side, but because of the useless matchmaking system I just as often go against potatoes as I do deathsquads, and so the crazy imbalances of this game are at least not ubiquitously apparent.

Plus its always fun to curbstomp a player who thinks they're good when they actually aren't.

Okay. But it hardly presents any benefit to the survivors to pull off, and half of the time it's very easy to spot. Man, why do people get so in their feelings about an average perk lmao.

Yep. There's apparently a .ini tweak you can do that EAC basically never detects, but nearly triples the size and intensity of the red stain. The devs could easily add this check to EAC and force them to reinstall the game, but it seems they've decided not to so far.

No I wouldn't. Because I don't sit here and think that something that poses the slightest inconvenience toward me is the other side trying to bully me. I think its foolish to complain about the perk. I don't see how someone trying to get a 3 second stun can be compared to being bullied. Being bullied is entirely different than not being situationally aware and continually falling for obvious tactics. I wouldn't get all in my feels and complain about killers having a perk that creates more dynamic gameplay opportunities but has counterplay like many killer players do towards Head on.

Players just don't want to feel bullied, and want to feel like they have a hand in how the match goes. Otz's match was a foregone conclusion from the start because three of the survivors weren't doing gens and were just following him around. Even though it was a "win", it doesn't feel good to just have people slap you around without any real ability to do anything about it, regardless of how the game thinks that match went.

I'm certain you can understand why that would be frustrating.

All of those instadowns except one could have been achieved by Leatherface. I guess he iS oP tOo.

I kinda stopped listening after they tried to get Ghost Face nerfed lol.