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Nurse or Freddy overall.

ASurvkillivorer
ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874

Not preference. Who do you think is overall the stronger killer? No console limitations or anything. Just each killer working at their peak on any platform. This is to settle an argument...

Nurse or Freddy overall. 69 votes

Nurse
68%
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Freddy
31%
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Comments

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110
    Nurse

    Not counting her bugs.

  • Brucecastro81
    Brucecastro81 Member Posts: 1,609
    Nurse

    Undeniable






    nUrSe GoT gUtTeD loL

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874
    edited February 2020
    Nurse

    If you vote for either a brief explanation is appreciated.


    For me I just don't understand how the argument can be made that a good Nurse is inferior to Freddy. A killer who can ignore loop aka the main source of the time survivors need. That alone makes her an absolute monster.

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874
    Nurse

    Really? Not one person gonna explain how Freddy is better than Nurse yet 1 third of people so far claim this. I gotta say I am surprised to see even three saying this.

    I was expecting 10-0 Nurse or 9-1 Nurse per 10 votes maybe.

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842
    Freddy

    I voted after you posted this, so I'm number 4, but I'll still give my reasons.

    Biggest one is consistency. This MAY just be because I'm a console player, but Nurse's blinks seem very inconsistent with hits. I've had games where 9/10 swipes after a blink I've gone "HOW DID THAT NOT HIT?" when any other killer who lunges would have hit the survivor.

    Survivors are also a huge part to consider when talking about these two, and if you're going to talk optimised killers, then we have to talk with optimised survivors as well. While, yes the Dream World can be avoided through the use of other survivors, or the alarm clocks, but during a chase, you are good as trapped. And Freddy's power is much harder to avoid, as opposed to Nurse's blinks that can be easily baited or juked. Freddy literally shuts down loops this way, giving Hindered and other status effects. Admittedly though, Nurse is still the better chaser if you can predict/learn/counter survivor tricks but this is still a very slim margin.

    Freddy also has a greater sense of map pressure, with his Dream Projection and Dream Snares, he has greater mobility options, that do not also give away his position, to move survivors off generators. His power is useful outside of a chase, yet he is still considered a Chase Killer. Nurse however, is only about the chase. Is she better there? Yes, but she is weaker to Freddy in every other sense.


    There is also one thing that Freddy does that Nurse will never be able to do outside of a few niche circumstances and builds: Easily cancel Borrowed time. While not normally a factor, and you shouldn't target the unhooked survivor, many high ranking survivors have gone to using the unhooked as a body-blocker. With the Dream World giving the Oblivious effect, and his lullaby NOT a terror radius, Borrowed Time does not activate, meaning it is easier to punish an unhooker, and take another hook in the process.



    Nurse wins in terms of Chaser, but for Gatekeeper, Malicious and Devious, I have to award the win to Freddy. Between his map pressure, information and ability to shut down loops almost as well as Nurse, Freddy seems like just a better overall choice.

  • Todgeweiht
    Todgeweiht Member Posts: 3,666
    Nurse

    Nurse is still extremely good, just boring as hell.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022
    Freddy

    Nurse would be good, but I like Freddy more as he can cut down chases faster than her now


    After her change, she cannot catch up to survivors running in a straight line with blinks

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919
    Nurse

    Nurse can ignore all survivor’s defenses. Nurse doesn’t play DBD, she plays Nurse By Daylight.

    Freddy still has to kick pallets and mindgame at pallets/vaults.

    Freddy takes less skill and effort but if the player is good with Nurse than Nurse is easily better.

    Freddy isn’t even close to the top killer anyways. Nurse, Spirit, Hag, Billy, Oni, and Huntress are better in my opinion.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    Nurse

    Nurse if the player is good mechanically; she has the highest potential.

    Freddy is more powerful in players that aren't as good.

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874
    Nurse

    So what is the deal with the straight line thing. I play on console and we never face Nurses on a regular basis. It sounds hard to believe that actually works against a GOOD Nurse now.


    Nurse players weigh in?

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172
    Nurse

    Its due to the distance you can blink (and the little delay between now) that a survivor can cover the same distance as you blink while running in a straight line. Basically if you miss a blink attack on a survivor they can gain more distance than you can ever hope to make up (provided a path forward exist).

    Now mind you this isn't possible on all maps but it makes playing Nurse on console even tougher because we already have horrible fps to deal with.

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842
    Freddy

    Nurse is literally slower than a survivor. Survivors are a base 4m/s. Most killers are 115%, or 4.6m/s

    Nurse is currently at something like 3.6m/s meaning that you are either super reliant on your blinks to get someone, or the survivor has to be record levels of dumb.


    Nurse at brown feels harder than Pig at green.

  • Endstille
    Endstille Member Posts: 2,246
    Freddy

    Nurse is bugged af.

    A killer power that can be disabled via map that gets played is irrelevant and not even viable at all.

    Play nurse on sanctum, play freddy on sanctum, reflect on your vote afterwards.

  • BelganPancake
    BelganPancake Member Posts: 43
    Nurse

    As a nurse main I honestly will look at both sides first and all i can say is they are far from being equal first being nurse can ignore survivor defenses like loops, windows, and pallets. Freddy can reduce dead hard distance by using snares. Freddy has multiple powers but nurse has more pressure she can reduce a chase to 10 seconds instead of the possible 30 second loop on freddy just because she can choose where to blink they both have con’s and pro’s but in my opinion nurse is way better

  • Endstille
    Endstille Member Posts: 2,246
    Freddy

    It has literally nothing to do with skill but you do you. Can you quickly do a sanctum offering and upload the gameplay? Seems to me you have found the way how the map is not bugged anymore for the nurse, you know like 90% of the map is a deadzone where she can not use blink. But hey your cool statement really did proof me wrong. facepalm

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874
    Nurse

    Wait...


    If Nurse is horrible on sanctum because of bugs and design problems. How does that make Freddy the better killer? If fixed properly would she not also just be a god on that map too?

  • BelganPancake
    BelganPancake Member Posts: 43
    Nurse

    Well i mean it really depends on the nurse players skill, in some aspects yes the layout of the map can change to outcome of a chase whether you have no chance to escape and have a 50/50 chance, that is if the nurse is an amateur and is still in the learning phase rather than on a nurse main i didnt mean it to be a offensive thing i just had to point it out sorry if i sounded mean or toxic in someway 🙇‍♂️

  • Endstille
    Endstille Member Posts: 2,246
    Freddy

    Cause Freddy doesn't get disabled via single map. Sure when it is actually fixed I will agree on nurse but as long as it is not fixed nope.

    Check the thread, has nothing to do with being amateur or nurse main. Actually check the bug section for nurse as well and you understand that she is filled with bugs.

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105
    Nurse

    The fact, that 32% here think that Freddy is better then Nurse showcases perfectly, how absolutly clueless the people on this Forum are.

    The best possible Nurse player would destroy ANY team within a short time every single match, while the best possbile freddy might struggle against a perfectly organiced team.

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874
    Nurse

    Yeah I am really surprised to see Freddy with this many votes. I would've expected him to maybe have around 10? 7-8?

    It also makes absolutely no sense to consider Freddy better because of bugs. If the next patch made it so Leatherface could for some reason hit people 25ft away with his chainsaw. You wouldn't then consider Leatherface the strongest killer in the game. He would be bugged....

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047
    edited February 2020
    Freddy

    Nurse is probably better for a experienced player who knows what they are doing, but sadly you can do the same level of play with less frustrations and less grind to learn Nurse with equal or better results with another killer.

    Before her nerf my answer would of hands down been Nurse.

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,874
    Nurse

    That doesn't really make a lot of sense. How is Freddy better than the Nurse who did do that grind though?

    A solid Nurse ignores the survivors main element of escape to the point where she can BENEFIT from pallets at times.. I don't even play Nurse yet I am clueless as to how any other killer can even come close to that when they are performing at max peak. Just coming right through the walls and ending you. A solid Nurse will also not just continue to be mind gamed into making the wrong blink. Her blink being so strong a great Nurse missing at times would be like any other good killer just runnin the loop and never missing.

    Freddy has abilities that slow down survivors at loops the Nurse can ignore. Freddy has an inferior version of teleport and some game slowing. For Freddy to be better....that would mean a god tier Nurse who is able to ignore loops entirely still fails to make up for the tiny slowdown Freddy gains even though he still has to run loops. Im not seeing that AT ALL.

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047
    Freddy

    Freddy does not suffer from the crippling penalty of missing a survivor can cause you to basically just lose them because they can hold W.

    A nurse who misses a swing after blinking can legitimately be run to the end of the Thompson House map. From one wall to the other without catching up. A survivor just runs straight and wins. Then imagine this happens again and again. Between her slow base speed and her current recharge speed without addons she crippled from the start just by missing and then attempting to catch up. Freddy can do better simply because of Being a 115% with Snares.

    Ya Nurse can go through walls, but not all Survivors are brain dead enough to fall for that either. Nurse isn't someone you loop conventionally so comparing both in a manner like that will always make Nurse be stronger.

    Least Freddy can catch up and play with them.

  • BelganPancake
    BelganPancake Member Posts: 43
    Nurse

    Nvm yes nurse is literally badly broken on sanctum sorry for that

  • Endstille
    Endstille Member Posts: 2,246
    Freddy

    The only person that is clueless is you. So a nurse main with 2k hrs alone on nurse and 7.6k hrs admitting he loses rounds also as nurse when survivors do push generators. Factor in a map that literally makes her unplayable on sanctum and et voila. Freddy does not have any of these shortcomings, playable on each map.

    All good. :)

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105
    edited February 2020
    Nurse

    Sorry but if anybody says Freddy is stronger then Nurse, he has no idea what he is talking about period. No matter how many hours this person might have on each killer.

    Sure, you might loose as the nurse aswell from time to time, but thats not the fault of Nurse, but the fault of the player. She has basicly no limits, while Freddy does. She can not be looped, therefore a perfect nurse will win every game. And thats the question here. A perfectly played freddy might still loose, since pallets and windows can hinder him.

    And also... because there is a bugy map, it means now that Nurse is bad? That only mean they have to fix the map, thats all.

  • Endstille
    Endstille Member Posts: 2,246
    Freddy

    Ah yes the mysterious perfect nurse which simply does not exist.

    Sanctum deletes her power, nurse has lots of bugs left but I am sure the unknown perfect nurse which does not exists will also fix all of that with her sick skills which can not be shown due to reasons.

    Stop acting as if nurse is as she was prenerf. A nurse main that has so many hours into the game and he isn't the perfect nurse (which is funny since that was how he was attributed by somebody who also claimed the same bs as you) and says he can not be taken as example for a normal dbd player.

    Furthermore she can not be looped yeah but she can still be run around on the map.

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105
    Nurse

    Okay, i see your arguments make a lot of sense, no way i can match that. Thanks for discussing.