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Killers will Be hurt by DC penalties( Survivors still have it easy)
Why? You ask. Well think about when a Survivor doesn't want to play a game anymore they can kill themselves on hook. Not having to worry about anything.
Now Killers. What if your playing Killer and you get games that are hard to stay in. If you play killer a lot you know what games Im talking about. Let's just say I feel bad for any Killers that have to play with Toxic Bullies multiple games in a role and it happens.
The point I'm trying to make is Killers don't have a get out of jail card. Other than DCing.
So I wouldn't be surprised if Survivor Queues get longer and more Killers living the game.
The age of the Killer mains will be No More
The Future will Be Kill Bots .
One more thing is mobile already has bots so it may be closers than we think.
Update: No I'm not ok with DCing and don't like to DC either.
Killers have extremely though games too. But from the comments its seems like impossible for Killer to get bullied or bum-rushed by Survivors.
If Killer isn't having fun just go in a basement and be AFK while survivors are Feeding BP off you and Trying to Blind You.
I don't want make this a big thing But a Forfeit option should be in Place For Killer that's all. I rather not be forced to play Like a A-hole and just leave.
If Killer Forfeits Survivors wont lose Items or Offerings.
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People who are hurt by dc penalty deserve it.
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Killers don’t need to DC. They could just hide in the basement and Alt+tab out and afk. Survivors would rush gens, look for killer, run around for some points and then leave.
They do this to earn progress on the rift as well.
DC punishments will affect entitled people in general, it doesn’t matter if they’re killers or survivors.
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I agree that it's more unfair to killers than survivors, and that survivors can kill themselves on hook and killers have no way out of a match they are being bullied in....but there is nothing that can really be done about it either.
I mean, they have to leave DC penalties in. A lot of the survivor bullying comes from unfair matchups though, if you were a threat in those matches a lot of that would never happen. I think matchmaking and ranking problems should have been fixed first, but if they are fixed later at least it will still all end up in a good spot.
I would just be patient until then. At least give them the benefit of the doubt to see if their new system works, or if it's just as broken/busted as the current one.
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Just allow the killer to open the exit gates whenever.
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That is bannable though, so technically they can't do that. Also it does affect everyone, but since survivors can hook suicide, it's more of a SWF and killer problem than a solo survivor problem.
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It punishes survivors far worse. Survivors can be slugged and left to bleed out with nothing else to do but wait for 4 minutes.
As killer they’ll just genrush. If they dont do gens then you can just camp a toxic team. As killer you always have the option to ruin the game for them far more than survivors can ruin the game for you.
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Yeah but that is just a few minutes, and you can afk and not be punished in that instance. It's not for the entire matches duration.
Camping doesn't work unless you are bubba really, maybe if you have a basement hook but honestly camping is not all that powerful anyways- and again they can just die on hook and immediately go into a new game if they don't want to be there. No punishment, no real consequence, keep their bloodpoints up to that point too.
Killer does have more potential to troll a game though I agree, if they like tunnel as pig or bubba face camp or whatever, but the whole overall point is they have a quick, easy, nonpunishable way out still and can just go get another game- they don't have to sit there and take it for like 10-15 minutes.
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I did think on this a little more though. While AFKing as killer is punishable, giving up on a match as killer and messing around is NOT punishable.
So I mean instead of AFK if you are getting bullied you can just like, horse around but still be in the game, and technically you could not be punished. So there is an option in that.
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The killer isn’t punished. I thought we were talking about toxic survivors? The kind who run OoO as a swf and tbag at every pallet?
I dont think they would give up on hook. If they did then congrats that’s one survivor down. If they troll and troll then just kill them.
The worse they can do is genrush. If they aren’t doing the gens they’re going to die.
So you can just camp one and ngaf because at that point you’re ruing the game for them.
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And if you want to just move on to the next game ASAP?
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Killers should have the option to open the exit games and start EGC at any point. Problem solved
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If the KILLER is being toxic the survivors can just die on hook and go to a new game unless in SWF. If survivors are being toxic a killer HAS to be in that match for it's entire duration. So do SWF basically whenever things like Mori's and camping/tunneling awful killers are around.
The point is solo survivor's have an escape option from that match no one else does. It's a little unfair but it isn't like some tremendous issue or anything.
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I don't know how it is by you, but I have always something else to do.
I can work in the afk time in my home, I can read newspages, watch YouTube videos, chat with someone... I would not have the feeling to have lost time with it.
The only acceptable excuses for dcing are a connection lost from your isp, rl stuff, heavy bugs in the game, or problems with your system that make the game unplayable for you (like a keyboard that stops working), imo.
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But the truly toxic killers are the ones that slug and leave people to bleed out. Or just follow someone around all game waiting for Rancor.
Those killers never hook.
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Hey, I had a tome challenge I wanted to do, and I didn't want to put any bloodpoints into Spirit. I had no choice.
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IF you get slugged you recover till you just need a tap to get back up. Like I've never had slugging be an issue there is still a good chance you will recover. Hell if you have good team work it costs them the entire match. If you mean at the end of the game, then you can just afk till you bleed out like you CAN afk for that you don't have to like sit there and watch him tea bag you as ghost face or something if you don't want to.
Also someone following you around all game waiting for rancor that's not even an issue. The only folks doing that are just trying to get that challenge so that won't really even be a thing for long, and there is so much gameplay things you can do about that, it's not like some 100% inescapable thing. If it was everyone would run rancor all the time.
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No. Then you'd have toxic killers just go for the gates as soon as the match starts, and ruin things for everyone involved. That would only make things worse.
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But my point is the toxic killers slug all remaining survivors and leave them to bleed out. Theres no recovering because theres nobody to pick you up.
Hence why they are toxic killers. Its incredibly boring for survivors. Survivors can not do anything.
Meanwhile as killer Survivors can never put you in that kind of position.
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So that Killers dont even need to play AFK-Wraith to let everyone depip?
Just load in, open the Gates, face a wall. Nobody will be able to do any points. Great.
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Yeah, sucks for you then. DC Penalties go both ways and this is good. Just get your depip and go on.
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I dunno about any time, I think there would have to be a time limit. Like if they rush all the gens in 5 minutes, it's not like you are exactly suffering as killer that match is going to be hella short and you can move right along.
Also killers would run like blood warden and noed and only do that and see how many fast kills they could rush and end the game quickly with. It would become a new trolling method.
If the killer could open the gates it should only be after like 10 or more minutes or something, like how surrender works in some moba games so you don't just give up immediately.
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Yeah but Get some toxic Survivors.
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It's more about survivors that can still "DC" by suicide on hook. So if they hate that match, are not having fun, onto the next quickly and easily. Killers cannot.
Though, as I mentioned after I would say SWF can't really either, so really the only ones who have that option are solo survivors who honestly might need it more as an option anyways given how so many pubbie survivors play. Also it doesn't affect killer really it makes their game even easier, but it does screw over the other solo survs in that game.
I'm just mostly thinking out loud here don't take this as an argument haha, I am trying to look at this from both sides because I know how frustrating and unforgiving killer role is, but solo survivor experiences and getting trolly killers sucks too.
Without DCs maybe they will start cleaning up some of the DC reasons? I would rather that more than anything.
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Are sure about that I Once Played Wraith and SWF and 3 survivors had Flash lights . They literally had blind all game. I couldn't even turn invisible. Killers get games where they can put in position to do nothing.
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I am not sure if I would like to see bhvr working on the "dc reasons". But I am there a "hurted child", aka. not the best guy you can talk about with.
There would people be better that have made with bhvr a better experience as me.
Edit: Just for the info :).
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I'm a Killer Main Vet I never did that to whole team. I don't play like a A-hole lol
Try to be fair and not play dirty.
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Survivors put you in that position EVERY FRIGGIN' game. You've won, just leave. But no.... make me chase you out the gate, or go find the hatch for a few more BP, or lets do another extra chase so you can pallet drop me again. Lets 99 the gate, for a bit more fun. Its often incredibly clear when the game is over, but survivors feel the need to sit around.
This is why killers should have a surrender option by simply opening the gates. Opening before all the generators are done should deactivate any EG perks like Hex and blood warden and stuff, and just force survivors to get out. @Echorion If they want to put a "3 gens must be done" limit on it or something, fine. I think they can come up with a solution.
Slugging all 4 to bleed out is crap. I see no reason why an algorithm can't be made that determines state of the game and just speeds that up. Even if it doesn't, its 4 minutes, and this doesn't happen that often. I've maybe seen it 2 times, and if all 4 survivors in a game report the killer, odds are something will get flagged on them.
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I rather wait more than play in a miserable game Trying to make 4 Survivors happy. Im not a Entitled Killer main. My Inbox has plenty of proof how entitled survivors. So don't start. I want Dbd to be fun on both sides.
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Yes survivors can, they can decide to just hide and not do gens and hold the game hostage and try to force the killer to DC.
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This happen to Me a handful of times.
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Thank you for letting me know, I didn’t know it was bannable. I did it a lot over the last weekend because I kept getting matched up with players who vastly out ranked me.
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They have to actually report you a few times for it though. A lot of folks won't, but if you AFK against toxic survivors they probably will.
Most folks don't as they know playing killer is a frustrating experience and that matchmaker dunks on them more than anyone.
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