Give me one good reason why...

Funny thing is, it was the killer's mistakes that repeatedly cost them the 4k. I find it amusing how OP believes Ardetha was entitled to a 3k that game.

While I will say he played well, he also didnt have any gen pressure what so ever. He didn't patrol a single time which is something I feel alot of people dont do and they get punnished by it and blame the game. You have to patrol abd if you dont you onky have yourself to blame.

There, they gave you many reasons in a simple format. Problem solved?

My question is why do people who play killers think they are entitled to a 4k? Maybe you got outplayed. If its possible to outplay a good player who is playing a killer then that is good gameplay. Maybe you're just not as good as you think you are and aren't capable of a 4k against the type players you went against. Stop acting like just because someone plays a nurse and is good at it that means they are entitled to a 4k, because they are not.

I think the killer should also be able to maintain pressure, the killer failing slugs doesn't exactly fit the definition.

Actually. Whether I think the 3.5 secs of cooldown is a bit of a punishment. I think people who are relying only in the cooldown add-ons will never learn to play "new nurse".

He is good because he knows how to blink wich is, the best you can do with nurse and the hardest thing to learn, but having only the cooldown add-ons mean he think the 3,5 secs are a long time to wait. I do that as well but try to take advantage to another add-ons as well. My brother just played a match against a red rank SWF and he did 3K, the fourth just escaped because she had a key. My brother is better blinking that me (a lot better) so he used a cooldown add-on and one of the omega-blink add-ons.

I am not talking about the playstyle because another users did. What I mean is... there are some cool add-ons and I know the cooldown for old nurses is one of the worst and unfun thing that devs could do to her but you need to learn to play with it.

If 90% of the time you're downing survivors as soon as you see them, all that is left is for them to do gens and save people when the opportunity comes up. Sure some minor mistakes where made, every human will make some. Those survivors however, where potato's in every aspect that didn't involve holding M1 or saving a team mate. As @Chewy102 said, Nurse is the only killer who could have done ANYTHING, here. As decent nurses are the only killers who CAN down good survivors so soon after seeing them.

Compared to the Survivors, who made more mistakes? I see a game where a Nurse made some mistakes, but I also see a game where Survivors made a lot more mistakes. You are only looking at the Nurse and not Survivors.

Yes, that Nurse made a couple of mistakes. Losing the David twice was big, maybe going for a quadruple slug within the first 2 minutes of the game was a bit to much, and he could have been better at landing hits instead of baiting Dead Hard so much. On the other hand though. How many mistakes did those Survivors make?

Ever think to do a play by play for Survivor mistakes to give them a count? If you bothered to look at BOTH sides of the gameplay you'd see that even though Survivors made by far the most mistakes they still managed to end the game with 2 escapes. They didn't earn those escapes if you ask me.

That's my point of view. Survivors aren't earning their escapes. They can play horribly and still walk out a gate or jump in a hatch without putting in any real effort for it at all.

Killers need to earn kills and Survivors should also need to earn escapes. But it Killer takes effort to earning kills, Survivors not so much in getting escapes.

You know he could have ended the game multiple times by not picking up the slugs or not picking up claud who had ds and pick up david instead. Like so many places he could have ended the match so don't use this to cry.

Jukes? You know this is Nurse right?

You do know that if you don't attempt something, you'll never get better at it?

It is Nurse, and Nurse is Nurse. But those Survivors outside of David didn't bother to TRY and dodge her. And to use that David again, he seemingly did what you both thought impossible. He juked a nurse, not once. TWICE! That David earned his excape, that Adam didn't.

It doesn't, however I don't feel slugging should be so necessary in order to win--it's not fun for either side

I don’t mind killers slugging but this guy wanted to slug the whole team early, he had 3 people down and instead of hooking them he got greedy and decided to search for the last player. Because of his greediness he only got to hook 1 person out of the 3.

Both sides of an argument must be made, killer screwups survivor screwups etc. This thread is like arguing No0b3 shouldnt die because he obviously outplays the killer in a chase, key thought is, thats not the most important factor in a game. But yes, i agree with what your saying and like the fair discussion you give.

they must not be high level survivors friend. And survivors do put effort in, i dont know where you guys got the idea that we are entitled lazy ppl that dont have to do anything. 5 gens wont fix themselves, the killer isnt going to chase a ball of yarn for the game so someone has to keep them occupied, survivors arent going to save themselves, someone has to open the exit gate. I play killer without perks, i always have. I make mistakes, but the nurse gave up multiple chances of a 4k.

There's no real way to do that and not create a massive snowball for either side that would be even more boring.

I am not saying that he is bad with nurse (re-read the second paragraph please), I am saying that old "god" nurses have issues with the cooldown, and they use both cooldown add-ons trying to get old nurse back, meaning they want to stick with some kind of old nurse add-onless with a cooldown. And they won't have old nurse back.

So they need to be a bit less dependant on cooldown add-ons and start playing with another ones. Like, as you said the ones who increase blink range. Before the nurse's rework, you could use her addonless, now you need add-ons with her. You can't have old nurse back even with the cooldown addons.

Yes, I understand but think that if addonless is fine, then with add-on it becomes broken. That's why she has a cooldown now in the first place. And nerfing the add-ons so it will become trash then you will ask. Why wasting bloodpoints on her?

Actually i didnt say much about swf either, just that sucking epicly at survivor doesnt mean youll always get out anyways like people say.

Why don't Survivors need to play perfectly then?

Skill is a 2 way street for Killer and Survivor. Asking 1 to be perfect and letting the other half ass isnt fair.

He did a one trick pony play and made many mistakes. He knows how to blink but that's pretty much it. He missed many attacks, wasted a lot of time, picked up the wrong people repeatedly, and threw a safe hook because he got greedy twice.

The survivors stayed focused and achieved unhooking and repairing simultaneously.

Survivors do not need to play highly skilled in order to escape. If they share tasks efficiently it already applies a lot of pressure towards the killer.

In my opinion it is fair. Playing killer means to sweat. If you want a calm and chill round killer is not for you. At least not in higher ranks. You need to do more than just run after people and hit them. You need to think what to do next all the time. You need to stay focused on what is the best action all the time. You need strategy. For example when he downed the 3 survivors he should not have been greedy and chase for the 4th but hook one. He should have rather focused on killing off one in these scenarios, rather than trying to slug them all. Taking away their ability to multi task. Their only strength in the video.

In competitive games I played it was pretty normal to sweat, think and act more situational. I would not want it to be any different. Always planning ahead and keep the current overall situation in mind.

But in DbD people think that the killer role should be like the killers in Hollywood movies?

He was good at blinking but there were many bad decisions, failures and just the lack of awareness throughout the game.

Yes. I find it very obscure how people always think the killer role is as simple as chasing and hitting random survivors.

Most play without brain and then wonder why the fail the power role 1vs4.

And then they think it is entirely the games fault because "bro I downed some survivors in a game im like a pro player".

That's not how it works.

It's just like the people in other games I experienced who complain all the time instead of improving and then blaming the game for not ranking up.

I never said they should. All I said was that it's simply not true that the killer in the video played optimally and didn't make any mistakes, as OP and others have suggested.

I'm saying that those Survivors played far worse. Only 1 of them (David) shown skill in chases but the other 3 played rather poorly.

There almost isnt a burden of skill on Survivors. As seen they can constantly be downed left and right without needing to be skilled and still escape. Mistake after mistake only to still have another chance after chance.

Meanwhile if Killer makes 1-2 mistakes the game is almost over. Hyperbole, but close to the truth.

The burden of skill should be on both Killer and Survivor. Having it only on Killer isnt exactly fair. Survivor mistakes should be costly, but that just isnt the case.