How is the Ruin game going?

@Raven9

I have to agree that since the Reset it's been very hard to 4k or even 3k, I feel a lot of the optimized players have come back to get their ranks up and in a sense it's extremely hard to face Survivors that know every trick in the book.

Ruin was used to minimize this, especially with gen-times being so fast in comparison, but Survivors like that would find Ruin anyways and destroy it OR work right through it, so the perk itself didn't solve that issue.

I'm a firm believer that the maps really do need to be reworked to fit this fast pace meta that we're in right now, we should hopefully see something like that in the future. I've used Ruin Post and Pre rework and it still would break sometimes in 30 seconds of the match, even soon sometimes!

I feel Ruin's rework isn't the issue here, it's mostly got to do with the structure of the maps and some of the loops that're in said maps, but that's just my opinion.

I think what he means is that the perk would be broken in 30 seconds or less a lot of times, making it essentially useless for most of the game ONCE broken.

Which he's right, even Post Ruin still gets broken within 30 seconds if the Survivor is lucky and finds it, or spawns on it...

Good so far, I have been enjoying ruin specially on Legion and Billy

Understandable with how the meta has progress at the moment, but unfortunately Old Ruin will not make a return and perks like Ruin will not be made, they will consider making more gen reduction perks in the future, but they won't synergize like Old Ruin did with a lot of other Gen Stopping perks or "Anti-Gen perks".

I understand how you feel, especially with this reset bringing back a lot of skilled Survivors that're so used to every loop and map, but we can only hope for a map rework that's reasonable for both sides.

DBD's meta is constantly changing and progressing, balance is hard to keep when such a meta exists on a game as unique as DBD.

They actually did buff Legion a bit with his vault and a few of his add-ons, but a full scale change is still to be determined. I personally don't know if they will rework him anytime soon, but when they do i'm sure they've got ENOUGH information from the community to know what to change.

Some Killers don't need to be reworked either, so Legion could actually receive a buff instead. But again, I personally don't know when that will be.

It's up to you on what you'll do next, but I wouldn't give up hope on the Killer side of things just yet, i'm sure we'll see some development on the maps and/or other Killer related things soon. Something fair for both sides of course.

Plugins?

It was a small buff to vaulting speed and other such add-ons, that's about it. I doubt BHVR is "having a laugh" about The Legion situation, it's hard to really help out a Killer that got flak from the start of their release, so they do the best they can to balance them out and than schedule a rework/buff for the future.

The fact they may or may not buff/rework a Killer means that they care, otherwise they would just let them "rot" in a sense.

Also, I was fairly supportive of The Legion when they first released back in December 2018, and the Killer itself, at least to me, was unique in how their power focused on a "rush down" concept rather than a one on one chase. Despite this, and the changes he had which I don't fully agree with, the nerf was necessary due to The Legion not being fun to face as a Survivor, which he wasn't.

The same thing happened to The Spirit, she wasn't nerfed because she was OP, she was nerfed because she wasn't fun to face and some of her Add-ons we fundamentally broken... just like some of The Legions mechanics and/or his add-ons like Franks Mixtape for example.

I doubt another look at The Legion will result in a nerf, since The Legion doesn't really need a nerf, they're relatively fine where they're at the moment but a buff is always welcomed.

Understandable, we all make mistakes sometimes, even in what we write on a daily basis.

*Corrupt Intervention joins the chat*

It actually helps a lot for the start of the game, especially for Killers that need to set-up like Trapper, The Hag, or Demogorgon.

It also stops any immediate gen-rushing that will occur when the match begins, so you won't instantly lose a few Generators when you find your first Survivor.

Corrupt Intervention might not be Pre-Ruin, but it gets the job done in it's own way. The game wasn't meant to be centered around one perk that slows down Gen times and can be combo'ed into other perks like Corrupt or Pop...

If you seek balance than we'll have to wait and see what the future holds, at the moment the Rank Rework is something that's desperately needed at the moment.

Anything that disappears on use, such as the BNP, syringe, styptic, keys, etc. will still disappear, because they don't work based on charges, they just disappear after they're used. The only change being made is that if an item, like a map, toolbox or medkit (or a key, if it's used for aura reading rather than to open the hatch) loses all its charges, it won't disappear, it will just become useless for the rest of the match, but you will still be able to escape with it and keep the item.

EDIT: The above also applies to flashlights. I just forgot they were a thing.

I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Flashlights work the same as all other items under the new changes, in that they will no longer vanish once all their charges run out, they will just become useless. If you escape while carrying the item, you won't lose the item itself, but you will lose any add-ons unless you have Ace In The Hole equipped.

You lose the add-ons no matter what happens. It doesn't matter how many charges are remaining on the item.

That's correct, yes.

Nah, new ruin is fine. Even more than fine if you can make enough pressure. With this perk i can now hold last 4 gens for infinity period of time on pretty much every killer with mobility. All you have to do is making pressure. On nurse just blink from gen to gen, they have to run away, and blink away to another gen... then blink back to earlier gen (if it was touched). Gen will reverse faster than they will repair it = infinite loop :D. And all you need is to surprise survs so you can get that 1 hit. Then go away, they return back to repair... and again appear and try to hit someone. Often i can get 2-3 kills + every single one of these kills was from third hook. And its not only nurse - i did the same with freddy, demogorgon, oni, billy, legion (yes, him too), plague (maybe no mobility but poison shows you when they start working back on gen + it makes them vulnerable to getting 1 shot. Also if they decide to cleanse... well, pick up it, and spit near gen above walls, its free 3 or 4 hits on every single surv that were working + they cant heal it in waters if they arent poisoned... and if they were poisoned you can even get kills from this action).