Slugging needs a nerf

Isn't this a Nerf to survivors lol slug em twice and they die...

If anything I think unbreakable needs another requirement in order to activate. Like in order for unbreakable to work there cant be another survivor within 28 meters when you are downed. This way it doesn't punish the killer for playing smart. Often times you get these swf groups that want to do their little flashlight saves or teabag the killer into another chase so their friend can use their second chance perk after being outplayed. Unlike DS and BT I feel like unbreakable punishes good killers more than it does toxic ones.

Timer reduced: So I can die before my teammates have a chance to come get me up? No thanks

Self pick-up without perks: So Unbreakable and No-Mither are broken perks? No thanks

Unbreakable buffed: Why not 100% Add in Botany Knowledge and you can pop back up before the killer even gets out of terror radius! Don't break the perk, and then make a suggestion that you have no idea of how that balance would work.

No one pips: Confirmation bias. You have 0 data to support this hyperbole.

Slugging doesn't need a nerf, because it's not a mechanic of the game. No one is required to slug. It's a strategy, that does get used legitimately. If you are having issues with constant slugging for luls killers, then take a break from the game for a while, because there is nothing the devs can do to stop it, and not everyone has the issue. Personally I've had it happen once, and it was just after EGC came out and the killer wanted to see me die to EGC. But I managed to escape anyway.

being slugged on the ground for the entire match sucks..and its the tactic now. its rare but it happens. and DC'ing is out of the picture now; so itd be nice if we were given a "forfeit" option at least.

You're asking for slugging to be balanced to be fun to play AGAINST. You've not once thought about what it's like for the other side. Killers don't want to slug all day and run NOED but a lot of them are running out of options and feel this is the best way to adapt and cope with the recent changes. It's really rough to play killer as it is and if you don't slug, you don't have pressure, therefore you lose. It's really that simple. This is how the game is played now and until BHVR do something to actually help killers instead of run them into the ground even more...you'll just have to deal with it I'm afraid.

You legit realize you can replace ONE of ether the fourth and third to have ether Detectives hunch or unbreakable?

Btw one of these perks are part of the current meta

Bring the perks if slugging is so frequent for you.

This is not a good idea and here is why ;

1. Reducing the bleedout timer to one minute means that the killer can just camp your body until you're dead, now you've had less fun and died quicker too.
2. The ability to pick yourself up would make killers like Oni & Myers worthless as they're pretty much built on the idea of applying tons of pressure through slugging as they're snowball killers. This would also heavily weaken infectious fright while completely neutering knock out.
3. Unbreakable is already an insanely strong perk, infact it's the most game changing perk in the game as it can single handedly turn a losing match into a victory against a good killer. Now you want it so this perk picks you up even sooner ontop of the baseline ability to pick yourself up. If anything, unbreakable should probably be nerfed.
4. Slugging is a key part for allowing good killers to pick up map pressure especially in rough situations where there simply isn't enough time to hook someone. These ideas would make way more matches completely unwinnable, especially on already rough maps like Ormond, Haddonfield and any Coldwind Farm map.

B8 isn't supposed to be THIS obvious, m8.