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What is the ideal no mither build?

ghostface_tryhard69
ghostface_tryhard69 Member Posts: 67
edited October 2019 in General Discussions

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  • Spooky13
    Spooky13 Member Posts: 1,471

    Self Care and Botany Knowledge with a purple and red instaheal on a purple medkit.


    But for real, don't use it, you can't even get the benefit of picking yourself up because they know you can. If you have to, Dead Hard is a must, along with Iron Will to make yourself silent, and either Unbreakable or Tenacity to pick yourself up faster is they decide for whatever reason to slug you.

  • Marcus
    Marcus Member Posts: 2,047

    No Mither

    Dead Hard

    Decisive Strike

    Resilience

    Toolbox.

  • PGJSF
    PGJSF Member Posts: 369
    edited October 2019

    No Mither, Dead Hard, Unbreakable and Tenacity. Also consider Iron Will, Resilience and Liberation.

  • MrsMaliciousX
    MrsMaliciousX Member Posts: 736

    No mither

    self care

    adrenaline

    the rock perk

    YOU'RE WELCOME :D

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,250

    Close, I would replace adrenaline with fixated.

    🙃

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061

    I've been running No Mither, Inner strength, Mettle of Man and Deliverance.

    Whenever I get deliverance active I've been kobeing instantly off the hook immediately after being put on it.

    I just figured might as well do it to slow down how fast I regain my rank. Don't want try hard sweaty killers or good killers for the event. I've still been pipping, got up to rank 8 after rank reset took me down to 11

  • MrsMaliciousX
    MrsMaliciousX Member Posts: 736
  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790


    This guy beat me to it. All No Mither does it make you a prime target to the killer.

    I die a little bit inside when I join a pack of randoms and one or more has No Mither - cause 99% of the time they suck in a chase and will probably kill themselves on first hook.

  • 53nation
    53nation Member Posts: 681

    Anyone have advice for Adept David? I haven't attempted yet. Maybe I do 2 gens and hide?

  • Nikkiwhat
    Nikkiwhat Member Posts: 1,378

    Gonna apologize ahead of time,,totally doing Adept David xD expect some No Mithering Potato'ing from me. I'm decent at chases, but not enough to really pull off a No Mither ego build

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    I've seen a build where they use.

    No Mither

    Unbreakable.

    Sabotage.

    Dead Hard.

    With a full sabotage toolbox. You create hook dead zones. It's a gimmick build. But will get alot of hate.

  • Maelstrom10
    Maelstrom10 Member Posts: 1,922

    No mither, resilience, dead hard and a choice of either iron will, unbreakable or tenacity.

    Iron will despite no mither making you quieter silences you completely which is always useful, unbreakable allows you to pick yourself up faster if you are ever slugged with no mither on which is rare mind you (but will give killers less time to leave you on the ground then is expected.) Tenacity will allow you to get into a better position if ever slugged.

    Sabotage and a sabotaging tool box can allow you to create temporary dead zones of hooks which can be useful but is somewhat map dependant and hard to pull off without a team.

    Resilience is a constant 9% buff to everything. Vaulting, gens, healing others etc. This is not happening makes great skill checks easier.

    No mither is a difficult perk and harms more then it helps on occasion. But against a plague or a legion? It does nothing but help. Spine chill is incredibly helpful as well as it will help against a stealth killer sneaking up and one shotting you unconditionally.

  • WickedKatz
    WickedKatz Member Posts: 238

    The only effective build is Unhookable, but only works on a swf. You gotta have alex's toolboxes, Dead Hard, Tenacity and Flip Flop. It is pretty op because the killer cant hook anybody and can only slug, but with no mither you just get back up

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022

    No Mither, Solidarity, Second Wind, and Inner Strength

  • Thasard
    Thasard Member Posts: 268

    Survive...

    Seriously though, rank reset is the perfect time as you will likely get paired with a bad killer that you and your team can work together to escape from.

    Bring a key for the hatch, or a massive toolbox to help your team gen rush.

    But, yeah, survive...which can literally be done perkless so at least you'll have the three to play with.

  • MrDardon
    MrDardon Member Posts: 4,044

    No Mither, Object of Obsession, Self Care, Solidarity

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,358

    No Mither (obviously)

    Iron Will (because No Mither is too bad at lowering your Grunts of Pain, so you need Iron Will as well... You cannot really go on chases, so be as stealthy as possible)

    Dead Hard (when it is not bugged...)

    DS (because it might happen that you get tunneled again, because you are an easy target)

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Resilience, bond, prove thyself and no mither.

  • Theoretical_Heart
    Theoretical_Heart Member Posts: 398

    The best no mither build is to not use it.

    But if you insist the at least run kindred since you'll be on the hook all match.

  • Yung_Slug
    Yung_Slug Member Posts: 2,238

    No Mither

    Resilience - Faster repair speed and vault speed

    Spine chill - Faster repair speed and vault speed, knowledge of the killer's whereabouts.

    Dead Hard - Extend chases, helps compensate for being downed in one hit.


    You could replace Dead Hard with Iron Will for a stealthier playstyle.

    Resilience and Spine Chill allow you to have max vault speed, which will save you from more hits than you'd expect. It also allows you to run infinites on certain tiles, especially if the killer keeps going for hits that they would normally be able to land.

  • OMagic_ManO
    OMagic_ManO Member Posts: 3,278

    No Mither

    Resilience

    Dead Hard

    Decisive Strike

    Replace Resilience if you want Iron Will.

  • HeyZeus
    HeyZeus Member Posts: 14

    I saw Pain Reliever using it as his "Sawdette" build. Basically gets rid of all hooks around gens and actually wants killer to come get him. No Mither and a few others help him with aggroing Killer and then very likely escaping after.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    There are three main ways to do No Mither. Stealth, Gen Jockey or Dumbass

    Stealth Build:

    * No Mither, Iron Will, Urban Evasion, then either Bond or Spine Chill

    Gen Jockey:

    * No Mither, Resilience, Prove Thyself, then either Bond or Spine Chill (Spine Chill preferred)

    Dumb Ass Build:

    * No Mither, Tenacity, Unbreakable, then either Flip Flop or DS

  • yadielrodriguez
    yadielrodriguez Member Posts: 515

    I say NM Resilence Breakdown and Boil over or different exhausted perk than DH.

  • RakimSockem
    RakimSockem Member Posts: 2,002

    No Mither

    Self Care

    Inner Strength

    Second Wind

    Med-kit with pink add on

    All of that is just to emphasize how shite No Mither is and how it should never be used outside of getting an achievement or challenge done until the devs give it the 2x bloodpoint boost it deserves.

  • dont_ask_me_again
    dont_ask_me_again Member Posts: 490

    The best one but it got nerfed:


    Dead Hard (nerfed)

    No Mither (nerfed against oni?)

    Object of Obsession (nerfed)

    Saboteur (nerfed)

    All the perks worked with each other + there’s all the survivor nerfs.

  • Chatkovski
    Chatkovski Member Posts: 309

    As already said, the ideal is not to use it.

    However I also read some suggest Iron Will, but in the description of No Mither it is written: Grunts of Pain caused by injuries are reduced by 0/25/50% AT ANY TIME.

    I always thought that this "at any time" meant that it couldn't be changed by another perk like Iron Will, so isn't it? What does "at any time" really mean?

  • Crimbojambo
    Crimbojambo Member Posts: 82
    edited February 2020

    Play defensively, don't make gambles. Or...y'know, be good at chases.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    Lol a necro and bad logic.

    Bond doesnt suck. It let's me know when someone is leading the killer to me.

  • DWolfAlpha
    DWolfAlpha Member Posts: 927

    To the people just saying "don't use it," I would like to remind you that there is a challenge that requires you to escape while using it.

  • Exerlin
    Exerlin Member Posts: 1,352
    edited February 2020

    I like to run it with Resilience, Spine Chill, and either Sprint Burst or Dead Hard. Resilience makes you faster at gens and other things, Spine Chill helps counter stealth killers, which are awful to face with No Mither, and SB or DH give you a bit more survivability in dead zones and chases respectively. You also benefit from +15% vault speed with Resilience and Spine Chill, so it's a pretty decent build imo

    Edit: Wait, who the ######### necro'd this ancient thread

  • yadielrodriguez
    yadielrodriguez Member Posts: 515

    This is 2020 survivors are more selfish now so I use solo great build where piss the killer off and bond like really who wanna see survivor like it a waste it don't help you to survive same go for emphaty.

  • CrassardStreams
    CrassardStreams Member Posts: 179

    Any build with decisive strike is going to have a pretty easy game, No Mither means they can't slug you to avoid the stun (so does unbreakable but meh)

    No Mither, Decisive Strike, Resilience, Tenacity or Iron Will.

  • miahelloiloveyu
    miahelloiloveyu Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2020

    I wouldn't use dead hard. It doesn't work a lot of the time and its too risky to rely on for a loop extension.

    No Mither

    This Is Not Happening

    Resilience

    Iron Will


    I escaped every game I used this build on today. I really only use it to get the great skill check challenge done quick, so definitely swap out this is not happening for something like spine chill for either extra stealth or to double down on the vault boost during chase along with the resilience.

  • LOA
    LOA Member Posts: 235

    No Mither, Dead Hard, Decisive, and Alert.


    Alert is a great perk that helps you stay hidden from the killer.

  • Mooshroome64
    Mooshroome64 Member Posts: 105
    edited February 2020

    I think it's just leftover text from when Iron Will used to only work when standing still at certain tiers - it wasn't default that perks making grunts quieter applied all the time so they had to state it specifically in the description.


    Edit: and also I think no mither reduces sound in dying state which Iron Will does not.

  • LOA
    LOA Member Posts: 235

    At any time only applies to that perk, it does not include bringing Iron Will 3.

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    No mither

    Object of obsession

    Urban evasion

    Sprint burst


    Urban evade around staring at the killer the whole time, run away when they get near and repeat.