General Discussions
General Discussions
What is the ideal no mither build?
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Ideal build is to not use it, there is no combo that makes this perk worth using
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If you MUST use it, my recommendation.
No Mither
Iron Will
Dead Hard
Spine Chill
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Self Care and Botany Knowledge with a purple and red instaheal on a purple medkit.
But for real, don't use it, you can't even get the benefit of picking yourself up because they know you can. If you have to, Dead Hard is a must, along with Iron Will to make yourself silent, and either Unbreakable or Tenacity to pick yourself up faster is they decide for whatever reason to slug you.
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No Mither
Dead Hard
Decisive Strike
Resilience
Toolbox.
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No Mither, Dead Hard, Unbreakable and Tenacity. Also consider Iron Will, Resilience and Liberation.
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No mither
self care
adrenaline
the rock perk
YOU'RE WELCOME :D
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Close, I would replace adrenaline with fixated.
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I've been running No Mither, Inner strength, Mettle of Man and Deliverance.
Whenever I get deliverance active I've been kobeing instantly off the hook immediately after being put on it.
I just figured might as well do it to slow down how fast I regain my rank. Don't want try hard sweaty killers or good killers for the event. I've still been pipping, got up to rank 8 after rank reset took me down to 11
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then you gotta be a wiggle worm!!! its great :')
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This guy beat me to it. All No Mither does it make you a prime target to the killer.
I die a little bit inside when I join a pack of randoms and one or more has No Mither - cause 99% of the time they suck in a chase and will probably kill themselves on first hook.
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Anyone have advice for Adept David? I haven't attempted yet. Maybe I do 2 gens and hide?
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Gonna apologize ahead of time,,totally doing Adept David xD expect some No Mithering Potato'ing from me. I'm decent at chases, but not enough to really pull off a No Mither ego build
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I've seen a build where they use.
No Mither
Unbreakable.
Sabotage.
Dead Hard.
With a full sabotage toolbox. You create hook dead zones. It's a gimmick build. But will get alot of hate.
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No mither, resilience, dead hard and a choice of either iron will, unbreakable or tenacity.
Iron will despite no mither making you quieter silences you completely which is always useful, unbreakable allows you to pick yourself up faster if you are ever slugged with no mither on which is rare mind you (but will give killers less time to leave you on the ground then is expected.) Tenacity will allow you to get into a better position if ever slugged.
Sabotage and a sabotaging tool box can allow you to create temporary dead zones of hooks which can be useful but is somewhat map dependant and hard to pull off without a team.
Resilience is a constant 9% buff to everything. Vaulting, gens, healing others etc. This is not happening makes great skill checks easier.
No mither is a difficult perk and harms more then it helps on occasion. But against a plague or a legion? It does nothing but help. Spine chill is incredibly helpful as well as it will help against a stealth killer sneaking up and one shotting you unconditionally.
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The only effective build is Unhookable, but only works on a swf. You gotta have alex's toolboxes, Dead Hard, Tenacity and Flip Flop. It is pretty op because the killer cant hook anybody and can only slug, but with no mither you just get back up
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No Mither, Solidarity, Second Wind, and Inner Strength
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Survive...
Seriously though, rank reset is the perfect time as you will likely get paired with a bad killer that you and your team can work together to escape from.
Bring a key for the hatch, or a massive toolbox to help your team gen rush.
But, yeah, survive...which can literally be done perkless so at least you'll have the three to play with.
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No Mither, Object of Obsession, Self Care, Solidarity
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No Mither (obviously)
Iron Will (because No Mither is too bad at lowering your Grunts of Pain, so you need Iron Will as well... You cannot really go on chases, so be as stealthy as possible)
Dead Hard (when it is not bugged...)
DS (because it might happen that you get tunneled again, because you are an easy target)
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Resilience, bond, prove thyself and no mither.
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The best no mither build is to not use it.
But if you insist the at least run kindred since you'll be on the hook all match.
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No Mither
Resilience - Faster repair speed and vault speed
Spine chill - Faster repair speed and vault speed, knowledge of the killer's whereabouts.
Dead Hard - Extend chases, helps compensate for being downed in one hit.
You could replace Dead Hard with Iron Will for a stealthier playstyle.
Resilience and Spine Chill allow you to have max vault speed, which will save you from more hits than you'd expect. It also allows you to run infinites on certain tiles, especially if the killer keeps going for hits that they would normally be able to land.
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No Mither
Resilience
Dead Hard
Decisive Strike
Replace Resilience if you want Iron Will.
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I saw Pain Reliever using it as his "Sawdette" build. Basically gets rid of all hooks around gens and actually wants killer to come get him. No Mither and a few others help him with aggroing Killer and then very likely escaping after.
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There are three main ways to do No Mither. Stealth, Gen Jockey or Dumbass
Stealth Build:
* No Mither, Iron Will, Urban Evasion, then either Bond or Spine Chill
Gen Jockey:
* No Mither, Resilience, Prove Thyself, then either Bond or Spine Chill (Spine Chill preferred)
Dumb Ass Build:
* No Mither, Tenacity, Unbreakable, then either Flip Flop or DS
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I say NM Resilence Breakdown and Boil over or different exhausted perk than DH.
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Most perks you say suck like bond.
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No Mither
Self Care
Inner Strength
Second Wind
Med-kit with pink add on
All of that is just to emphasize how shite No Mither is and how it should never be used outside of getting an achievement or challenge done until the devs give it the 2x bloodpoint boost it deserves.
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The best one but it got nerfed:
Dead Hard (nerfed)
No Mither (nerfed against oni?)
Object of Obsession (nerfed)
Saboteur (nerfed)
All the perks worked with each other + there’s all the survivor nerfs.
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As already said, the ideal is not to use it.
However I also read some suggest Iron Will, but in the description of No Mither it is written: Grunts of Pain caused by injuries are reduced by 0/25/50% AT ANY TIME.
I always thought that this "at any time" meant that it couldn't be changed by another perk like Iron Will, so isn't it? What does "at any time" really mean?
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Play defensively, don't make gambles. Or...y'know, be good at chases.
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Lol a necro and bad logic.
Bond doesnt suck. It let's me know when someone is leading the killer to me.
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To the people just saying "don't use it," I would like to remind you that there is a challenge that requires you to escape while using it.
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I like to run it with Resilience, Spine Chill, and either Sprint Burst or Dead Hard. Resilience makes you faster at gens and other things, Spine Chill helps counter stealth killers, which are awful to face with No Mither, and SB or DH give you a bit more survivability in dead zones and chases respectively. You also benefit from +15% vault speed with Resilience and Spine Chill, so it's a pretty decent build imo
Edit: Wait, who the ######### necro'd this ancient thread
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See that is a great build.
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This is 2020 survivors are more selfish now so I use solo great build where piss the killer off and bond like really who wanna see survivor like it a waste it don't help you to survive same go for emphaty.
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Any build with decisive strike is going to have a pretty easy game, No Mither means they can't slug you to avoid the stun (so does unbreakable but meh)
No Mither, Decisive Strike, Resilience, Tenacity or Iron Will.
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I wouldn't use dead hard. It doesn't work a lot of the time and its too risky to rely on for a loop extension.
No Mither
This Is Not Happening
Resilience
Iron Will
I escaped every game I used this build on today. I really only use it to get the great skill check challenge done quick, so definitely swap out this is not happening for something like spine chill for either extra stealth or to double down on the vault boost during chase along with the resilience.
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No Mither, Dead Hard, Decisive, and Alert.
Alert is a great perk that helps you stay hidden from the killer.
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I think it's just leftover text from when Iron Will used to only work when standing still at certain tiers - it wasn't default that perks making grunts quieter applied all the time so they had to state it specifically in the description.
Edit: and also I think no mither reduces sound in dying state which Iron Will does not.
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At any time only applies to that perk, it does not include bringing Iron Will 3.
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No mither
Object of obsession
Urban evasion
Sprint burst
Urban evade around staring at the killer the whole time, run away when they get near and repeat.
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