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tips for hatch x2 challenge?

meatisadelicacy
meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920
edited February 2020 in General Discussions

THANKS, EVERYONE

I GOT IT ALL DONE FINALLY AFTER LIKE 15+ HOURS


How are you getting it done? I've tried for about 8 games and haven't been able to do it once. I'd ignore it completely but it blocks two other challenges. Other than hiding in a locker at the start of the game and just letting your teammates die while you do nothing, any tips or strats? I equipped Left Behind but like I said, 0 for 8. I'm trying to play normally and then go for the hatch at the end and not leave through the gates. I just do not have the time to waste hours and hours doing a single challenge in this game. Oh and I play solo.

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  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    I tell you how it was done in my game as killer. 2 swf. one had key.

    the other two wre either randos or another swf. Either way dotn matter. But the two that were doing the challenge did gens and made sure they were not the ones getting hooked. They happened to get lucky as teh other two were cocky, bright clothed megs with flashlight who wanted attention. Which they got.

    The two with keys made sure that the gens on the side with the hatch got done so i would have no reason to go over there. Meg 1 eventually got caught and killed. The other two at that point did nothing. No work on gens amd hid near the shack and let the other meg take the fall. But she almost gave up the plan. Cos none of the other three gens on the other side were being worked on so i started looking. Then meg dies as i see the other two in teh shack. Meg dies. I approach and then use key...bot get out.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    Yeah I'm sure it's a lot easier in a SWF, they can die on hook as soon as the hatch is found and help each other actually find the hatch. It's just been really difficult as a solo for me. I don't want to screw the team over like I've seen in a lot of games where I just do nothing and then get hatch when my whole team is dead. I'm not gonna lie, I'm very over DBD and just want this Tome done so I at least get my money out of it.

  • BubbaSawyerMeats
    BubbaSawyerMeats Member Posts: 108

    when does the hatch actually appear on the map?

  • Tactless_Ninja
    Tactless_Ninja Member Posts: 1,791
    edited February 2020

    It also opens when everyone else escapes y'know...

    Edit: Noticed you said you tried that. Nvm.

    Best way will always be key escape. Can even follow killer then reopen when they close it. See hatch, open hatch. Done. Plunderers will scavenge you a free key if you don't want to bring one.

    And hatch always spawns in the same 3 or four locations. Hatch spawns according to how many survivors are in a game plus one on gen completion. So one guy dies, you see hatch before the last gen is completed.

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    I can barely find it in most of my games and that is with it being on the map. I know where to look. The main monuments of the map first. Secondary buildings. Small hillls ect.. but when i need the hatch its never in those places and on some random place on the map

  • asergioam
    asergioam Member Posts: 363
    edited February 2020

    Once there are more gens done than survivors alive so.

    4 Survivors=5 Gens

    3 Survivors=4 Gens

    ...


    EDIT: Exept if someone is the last survivor it opens even if no gens are done. He would need to wait for the killer to close the hatch first.

  • Biggs
    Biggs Member Posts: 286

    once again I would love to see meeting while they were deciding what challenges to make up... and a guy who made up this challenge.. god man..


    everyone in their mother hates keys and moris, but guess what lets make challenges for keys and moris .. how dumb can they be ? in most of the matches you see keys and becasue of that guess what in most of the matches killers have moris.. great fun for both sides devs..


    if the challenge would be nerfed to escape 1 it will be much better.. as you said in swf its almost zero problems, but in solo its reaaaaly hard to do it and it blocks other challenges.. got these people..

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    It's not just hatch escapes, the challenge is opening the hatch. So I can't rely on sound to find it. Unless I find it open, hide nearby, wait for the killer to close it and not die, and then open it myself.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    It's supposed to appear when the number of gens completed is one more than there are survivors alive. So it will spawn if all four survivors are alive when all five gens are done. If three survivors are alive, it should spawn when four gens are done. But I've been in games where there are two people alive with four gens done, the last person dies, and the hatch spawned into the game when that person died and it opened. Its happened enough for me to know I'm not crazy. So I can just choose to let my teammates die while I hide the entire time, or keep trying with random luck. I don't have time for random luck because it's now been 10 games and I haven't had it happen once yet. I don't have enough keys to get this challenge done.

  • PrettyFaceKate
    PrettyFaceKate Member Posts: 1,776

    SWF is your best bet, especially if you don't want to burn a lot of keys due to potato teammmates.

  • Tactless_Ninja
    Tactless_Ninja Member Posts: 1,791

    Ah. Well again, Plunderers Instinct (I said Scavenger before lol, shame on me) makes your key rates skyrocket. I found two skeletons in one match. And if you have Ace in the Hole, it could have the add-on that preserves the key after use.

    And as a few other people said, if you're rocking the key, just look for the hatch after some quick maths. You get at least 3 gens out of the way, then only 2 people need to die before you can search for it.

    It never spawns on the second floor or in a basement, and is usually in the open with the exception of that Haddonfield one on the porch. And the swamp sometimes has it in the corner.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    I have over 1000 hours in this game and probably about 950 are solo. All my friends quit a long time ago because match making was so miserable.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    I've been running Plunderer's (I don't want to bait out the Franklin) and in my last game, lol, I got a yellow flashlight and a brown toolbox. I swear that perk is either too much good stuff you cant even use it or all garbage. But yeah it looks like if I want to keep trying for this challenge, it's just going to be dumb luck and a lot of time.

  • PrettyFaceKate
    PrettyFaceKate Member Posts: 1,776

    If you have Steve, you can play him to minimize instances of Franklin's. It's very hard to see in the lobby that he holds a key, except for the brief moment he raises his arm. You can always equip it at the last second. GL.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    I don't have Steve but I appreciate the tip. So much snarkiness and nastiness on the forum it's so nice when people actually help. Thanks!

  • NullEXE
    NullEXE Member Posts: 1,632

    Complain about it, I think it's really dumb to tell your players to abuse a broken free win mechanic as a "challenge". I feel like it's a pretty big slap to the face when the most frusterating thing in this game is when survivors are bringing key's into matches, or worse - finding them in chests. Ignoring the fact that the entire hatch mechanic was a mistake to put in the game in first place.

    Rewarding survivors for taking the game hostage, of all the dumb ideas.

  • Ghost_Face_Main
    Ghost_Face_Main Member Posts: 618

    Got it done within 3 games. Play smart, avoid the killer as much as possible, try looking for hatch after 1-2 gens remain with 1sacrificed. I did all this while sneaking a key with Ash's wooden hand blending the key with it.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    That challenge is terribly designed. I'm not even touching it, pretty much did the same with last tome's dark sense challenge. I'd suggest running self care, iron will, urban evasion with left behind and hide. Or you can just play normally, help your team etc. and hope the killer doesn't bring franklin's or mori

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,846

    I ran the perk Left Behind

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    I ran Plunderer's with Left Behind, all four teammates alive. Killer is camping the hook and that teammate has Kindred. I see my other two fully healed teammates nearby, and I'm injured, so I finish the last gen across the map. The hatch spawns right next to me. They make the save, the killer tunnels and gets one kill, my teammates leave, I use the key, AND I FORGOT TO SET THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE I DECIDED TO WORK ON THE EMBLEM CHALLENGE FOR A BIT.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920
    edited February 2020

    Yeah at the rate I'm going it's literally going to take me 15 hours to get it done. It's absolutely miserable and I cannot fathom what the ######### the devs were thinking with this. But yeah, I'm trying to still play somewhat like I normally do and not just play it safe so I can get the hatch. Too many people are just not playing so they can get this challenge done and it sucks.

  • KSzerker
    KSzerker Member Posts: 191

    I managed to do it solo with keys I got from using Plunderer's and playing normally until the hatch spawned, at which point I'd look for it and leave (assuming I found a key). Took 9 games.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    I think in the 4-5 games I tried with Plunderer's, the one game I got it work, I had forgotten to set the challenge after giving it a break to work on another for a bit. It just seems to be either luck or screwing your team. Just had a Legion game where from the start, no one did gens except me. Everyone self cared and the only gen that got done was the one I did while I was injured at the very start. Who knew you could still repair gens while injured?!

  • urthos
    urthos Member Posts: 3

    The other option is to bring in a map that can track the hatch and the addon that increases range. Urban evasion. Sprint burst. Plunderer's Instinct. Iron Will. Rush gens and avoid the killer hard. Once you find the hatch, open some chests and hope for a key. This maxes out your opportunities without screwing over your randoms.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920
    edited February 2020

    I've just been trying for another two hours and can't get it. Last game, I had a key, the Ghostface had been farming and meme'ing around the whole game, everyone was out but me, I made noise so he would come over and close the hatch, he downed and hooked me. It's literally always the Ghostfaces that do the fake farming. Like they can't get kills any other way, I guess. Last game was a killer who camped, tunneled, and slugged at five gens. I'm running out of rings to protect my keys. I'm just so bored with this game and this challenge that's taking me at least 15 hours to get done at this point.

    I'm just at the screw my teammates point now. I don't care anymore.

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    Go for Gideon. I always find it on the bottom floor. It is the key map.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    Yeah it only spawns on the bottom level on that map. I finally played selfishly and let my last teammate die because:

    -there were two gens to go

    -I was injured and mori-able

    -the killer had an ebony mori he used after one hook on the other two teammates

    -I've spent more than 15 hours trying to do this one challenge and I'm so god damn over it

    And then the three man SWF I was unlucky enough to be matched with all sent me messages berating me. This community is insane and honestly, I can't wait to be done with this Tome and stop playing.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    Use Left Behind and wait for the killer to close the hatch...

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    Haha. Same. I'm thinking of using my accumulated cells to buy a Myers/Laurie skin instead of the pass. So the temptation to play the next challenges isn't as strong. The challenges are ruddy chores.

    I did the key challenge in about 4 matches, Hawkins and Gideon. I kept going for Gideon but naturally I was getting overpowered by teammates buring cornfields offerings.

  • Frankie
    Frankie Member Posts: 807

    I did this the same way I do all the challenges that are poorly designed. I cheesed the ######### out of it.

    Equip immersive perks (Urban Evasion, Iron Will, Quick and Quiet), as well as Left Behind so I can see the hatch. Waited (because rank reset had just happened so I was green ranks) for my whole team to die, and waited for the killer to close the hatch, then I went and took the hatch. I say that because if you take a key and are seen running around with it, you're very likely to get tunneled. So i played like a #########.

    Same thing i did with the No Mither challenge.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789
    edited February 2020

    I brought a skeleton key with the green bond add-on and a range add-on for info for both games and sat on gens away from where I could see a chase going, then as soon as it spawned I'd immerse around looking for it. If it was a last 2/3 situation, I'd use the bond to find the others and bring them to me. Did that twice in a row no real worries, tbh.

    I as even running with perks selected by a random perk wheel, lol. It was meme.


    This challenge is AWFUL not for the person doing it, but for the killer. I mean, this week half of the escapes vs myself have been directly because of a key being used on the hatch after I've spent 5 minutes looking for survivors. I don't see myself playing much until i know the majority have done this challenge...devs clearly didn't think this through.