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[PTB SPIRIT] If the new killer is unplayable without addons it has problems

Th3Nightmare
Th3Nightmare Member Posts: 1,266
edited August 2018 in General Discussions

And I say the following:

Have you tried to play it without addons? If a killer weakens without addons it is that something is missing.

Nurse can be played without addons, Billy can be played without addons, Myers can be played without addons, Huntress can be played without addons, the hag and WRAITH (PTB) can be played without addons, clown can be played without addons, THE NEW "THE SPIRIT" can not play without addons because it is not balanced to play without addons, a killer needs to be medium playable without addons, the addons is an accessory to power you do not have to play power of "spirit" needs addons it has a serious problem.

Why do people, streamers only play with OP addons? And then they say he's in mid tier? Have they played it without addons? Or do not really want to suffer that is weak without supplements, really to know if a killer is "balanced" should play without supplements, and I have played without supplements and suffer too much is useless.

and now ... what is your point of view regarding what I have said?

Comments

  • Twix
    Twix Member Posts: 235
    Survivor is not meant to be played without purple flashlights and flashlight saves left and right, because then it is too hard to survive. Kappa 
  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    I mean, on PTB she has the bug that one of her ultra rares is workign all the time and she is immune to flashlight. now imagine her in the live build.... yikes, freddy seems like a strong man in comparison :wink:

  • Giche
    Giche Member Posts: 753

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Every killers should be viable without addons.

    Addons should reward playtime (bp) with small QoL bonus, not be mandatory to play a character.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Master said:
    I mean, on PTB she has the bug that one of her ultra rares is workign all the time and she is immune to flashlight. now imagine her in the live build.... yikes, freddy seems like a strong man in comparison :wink:

    In live version, Freddy will have +1 member in his "Freddy's Bitches" club.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @RSB said:

    @Master said:
    I mean, on PTB she has the bug that one of her ultra rares is workign all the time and she is immune to flashlight. now imagine her in the live build.... yikes, freddy seems like a strong man in comparison :wink:

    In live version, Freddy will have +1 member in his "Freddy's Bitches" club.

    However, soon devs will hand a lightsbare to freddy and he will be able to click it at the spirits face from his podest :wink:

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    reads title
    thinks of nothing but the name Freddy

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Zanfer said:

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Hag can be played without addons

    A lot of people haven't used hag after the update. She was almost unplayable but now in a good shape.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited August 2018

    @Zanfer said:

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Hag can be played without addons

    She can, but I have already versed survivors that wanna make you uninstall.
    Lets put it this way, 2 flashlights in a single lobby is now an auto-dodge when I play hag :wink:

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Master said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Hag can be played without addons

    She can, but I have already versed survivors that wanna make you uninstall.
    Lets put it this way, 2 flashlights in a single lobby is now an auto-dodge when I play hag :wink:

    Well yeah flashlights are the weakness

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited August 2018

    @Zanfer said:

    @Master said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Hag can be played without addons

    She can, but I have already versed survivors that wanna make you uninstall.
    Lets put it this way, 2 flashlights in a single lobby is now an auto-dodge when I play hag :wink:

    Well yeah flashlights are the weakness

    +genrush+crouching

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Master said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @Master said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Hag can be played without addons

    She can, but I have already versed survivors that wanna make you uninstall.
    Lets put it this way, 2 flashlights in a single lobby is now an auto-dodge when I play hag :wink:

    Well yeah flashlights are the weakness

    +genrush+crouching

    It is not limited to her though. It is a common problem. Even nurses get genrushed sometimes.

  • Giche
    Giche Member Posts: 753

    @Zanfer said:

    Well yeah flashlights are the weakness

    So his counter to multiple flashlight is to dodge ?

    No in-game features ?

    Not a really good game design.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Giche said:

    @Zanfer said:

    Well yeah flashlights are the weakness

    So his counter to multiple flashlight is to dodge ?

    No in-game features ?

    Not a really good game design.

    No, sadly you cant do anything about flashlights. The only thing would be franklins, but it only drops the flsahlight and survivors can simpy pick it up again. Franklins becomes pretty much useless when a SWF uses multiple flashlights, the survivprs can even inform each other where the flashlight lies on the floor

  • Giche
    Giche Member Posts: 753

    @Master said:
    No, sadly you cant do anything about flashlights. The only thing would be franklins, but it only drops the flsahlight and survivors can simpy pick it up again. Franklins becomes pretty much useless when a SWF uses multiple flashlights, the survivprs can even inform each other where the flashlight lies on the floor

    Already knew it.

    Just make it writted by both of us, so people who would read could see what's wrong.

  • Th3Nightmare
    Th3Nightmare Member Posts: 1,266

    @Zanfer said:

    @xChrisx said:
    Wraith and hag playable without addons i dont think so. Btw yeah she deserve a buff

    Hag can be played without addons

    It's true! Since your buff does not need addons, 2 seconds to put traps and 40 meters of tp, you do not need more.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Giche said:

    @Zanfer said:

    Well yeah flashlights are the weakness

    So his counter to multiple flashlight is to dodge ?

    No in-game features ?

    Not a really good game design.

    If I see 3 flashlights or more I just go play a different killer. Two flashlights against her is not that bad as long as you place the traps in non obvious spots so they don't have to check

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    She needs a slight movement speed increase and built in stridor i think. Her lunge is a little short and needs an overpowered lethal ultra rare add on.
  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    Example for ultra rare add on: When a survivor is hooked gain unlimited phase power.