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Is refusing to do gens considered holding the game hostage ?

I’m just curious if say 2 survivors are left and there’s 2/3 gens left, is it considered holding the game hostage if you refuse to do gens and just hide until the killer gives up and dc’s or finds you after a very long time searching. I thought of this because I had two Claudettes on Haddonfield that refused to do gens and hid the entire time and it took me like 30 minutes to find them is that holding the game hostage ? Or is it just a loop hole for them to abuse.

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  • DelsKibara
    DelsKibara Member Posts: 3,127

    Well.. Considering the killer can still find them and kill them.. Technically no? But if the survivors make it extremely difficult for the killer to find them, maybe possibly yes?

    It depends on how flexible the rule against holding the game hostage is.

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703
    edited February 2020

    As irritating as it can be, the answer is no.

    It could be argued that they were looking for the hatch, for example (depending on gens left).

    Even though they're hiding, you still have the ability to attack them, if you find them of course.

    It maybe be an idea, after perhaps 10 mins of lack of gen activity, to have an automatic Whispers come in to play or something. But I bet that wouldn't go down well in the survivor camp.

  • Huntar
    Huntar Member Posts: 848

    The devs have previously said that survivors can never hold the match hostage, no matter what. They said this was because the killer could always have a chance of finding them and killing them.

  • Clevite
    Clevite Member Posts: 4,335

    Yeah technically it is not, but this tactic lacks sportsmanship. Why play if you're not going to at least try?

  • Quol
    Quol Member Posts: 694

    No, you would just be a bad team mate.

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    yep, you can report this, BUT as with everything, you need video proof, which no person will ever look at because that is completely unrealistic aka nothing will happen.

  • kucerka
    kucerka Member Posts: 186

    It's annoying as hell, and I'm survivor main so I just can't understand how someone can play like this - kids maybe 🤷🏻‍♂.

    But I also play killer - rarely but I do and this happened to me too. And it was even before challenges were introduced so no one can whine and said "I needed and escape challenge".

    I even wanted to open the gates by myself - but I Couldn't, so I'd like an option to opne the gates whenever I want. OOR...if survivors don't touch a gen in 3 minutes or so...they could be revealed to you- that would be pretty fair...you do nothing to escape so...just hiding somewhere is an idiotic strategy, you're not wasting your time but even the killer's.

  • Huntar
    Huntar Member Posts: 848
    edited February 2020


    Thanks for sharing this, it's good to see that their stance has changed on this issue. Though I will admit that it's pretty disappointing that the killer has to prove that they're abusing the system, rather than there being any way for the support team to confirm behavior in the match. Kinda places an excessive burden on the killer to go through the effort of recording and tracking bad behavior, while allowing other people to get away with it due to most people not knowing about/being willing or able to go through that effort. And I'll be honest, I'm not sure how a killer would "prove" they were acting to intentionally hold the match hostage, since there can be a lot of reasons someone might sit and hide somewhere for an excessive amount of time, especially since it was said previously that sitting and waiting for another survivor to die in order to try to get hatch isn't something that will be punished.

    This is what the crows are supposed to do, but they're way too easy to turn off. If two survivors are both injured, they can cancel the crows by just tapping healing on each other every minute or so. And there will always be at least two doing this, since the killer can close the hatch or open the gates if there's only one left and start EGC.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    It is, but you need video proof

  • karatinac97
    karatinac97 Member Posts: 210

    It really depends because those survivors may not be doing it for that purpose. If they are, then they are douche bags, but they could be relatively new players or very sneakily doing gens without you noticing (I've done this but my noob team mate hid in a locker the whole time 🙄 So that person would probably be in your category)

    But I remember when I was still on the noob side but becoming a decent player, we were against a much higher level Trapper who was VERY good at patrolling gens and I was still too scared to be on a gen with the killer near by. I knew were the trap door was so I crouch walked around the map trying to find the other person. Found them eventually in the same state lol. I luckily found a purple key in a box and I led the other survivor to the hatch and we escaped. The killer probably thought what you were thinking the whole time 🤷‍♀️

    I don't agree with the people who don't do gens though, I will just do a gen and if I die I die...