Do you think Killers will be far more try hard with the upcoming Sabo-Change?

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I'll just stop playing killer and switch over to sabo survivor that looks like fun...obviously endless frustration on the killer side, but oh well if this is how devs designed the game.

I think there may be more slugging, but only because Survivors will "try-hard" and abuse the new sabo.

I think killers already are, especially since the DC penalties have gone into play. I've never been slugged so much in my life. It's boring and it's a waste of time, especially with trying to do challenges now. I'm just dying on my first hook and going to the next game as a result now. I used to pretty regularly have the killer let the last person go. It didn't happen often, maybe once a week or two, but it happened regularly. It's probably been six months since I've seen it. It seems like most killer mains think a 4k is the only way to have fun and that's just not how I see or play this game, but what can you do.

I had a game yesterday where a Ghostface walked up to the gen someone was on from the opposite direction I was coming from to help make repairs. He started tea bagging, not going after the person who had been on it. So I took the chance that he wasn't going to expose me and down me to see if he was meme'ing/farming, whatever you want to call it. Played the whole game with him downing but not hooking us, kicking gens, couching in front of the gens like he was repairing them too, which made me laugh. Then when I was the last person left, was making noise by the hatch so he could close it for some extra points. It was right by one of the gates. He downed me and hooked me. So yeah, I am no longer doing anything for killers, because that happens far more to me than anything else. Killers pretending to be nice only to kill me a the last minute when I'm the one who gave them the most points. This community is toxic and I can't want to be done with this game when the Tome is done. I've actually had that happen three times recently with Ghostface alone, where they farm/meme the entire game, and then kill only me when my guard is down. That happens far more than anyone giving hatch to the last survivor anymore, and it's kinda sad.

They will be a lot more try less...as in not bother playing.

Here's my thing, and its going to be an unpopular opinion, but if survivors are not on a generator and following me around doing hooks, that's just like someone trying to play flashlight hero.

Just go after the cheeky saboteur hang him up. If necessary leave someone else slugged. That means someone else has to come off a generator to go get him.

Its what, 30 seconds? Meh.

Next time just take the hatch instead of wasting both your and the killer's time. Like I said before - everyone who gets annoyed by loud noise getting spammed in their eardrums would have killed you in that situation.

At the expense of my red rank self being called a baby, I will simply just give up and slap NOED on if the way I progress my hooks goes away due to 2.5 seconds sabos or I'll tunnel

So instead of just avoiding the inevitable and not playing, youd quit and ruin the experience for 4 other people.

Real nice.

And every excuse or reason imaginable comes up from nowhere.

We all know that making it accessible for solo survivors means SWF will take it to disgusting heights. They don't know how to buff solo without making SWF more godlike.

I feel like itll make hangman's trick essential which sucks. One perk slot eaten up for an update. The new version does look great but the changes will make SWF teams damn near impossible to hook. Body block, flashlight saves, sabotage, no mither, autodidact and unbreakable will be more effective.

I think it's a step in the wrong direction if there is supposedly a lack of killers. I don't know the numbers but it seems killer wait times have gone up since the PTB and survivor has gone down slightly. Just my observation.

From your description it sounded like you had fun. It wasn't like playing against frank's mixed tape and cold dirt which is (FORUM RULE: comparison to a serious medical condition).

Side Note: Does it seem like the forum rule is less about the serious condition and more about Behavior's attempt to silence criticism?

None of my friends really liked the toolbox changes. It was still difficult to sabo effectively without wasting time not doing gens. Like a flashlight save, you have to be right there. You have to get 3 hooks bc theres always about 3 the killer can go to. Killer is still faster than you while holding a surv. You have to have the right add ons too which will disappear even if you die. Youll probably need yuis wiggle perk. Idk if Jake's sabo perk was changed at all. The first few games I got wiggle offs but the next day killers wised up and brought anti sabo perks, slugged with infecious fright, etc. Oh and the hooks respawn very quickly. The toolboxes charge runs out quickly. I think I could get like 7 hooks down which isnt much bc you need to get like 3 hooks around the downed surv. The killers adapted perfectly fine. Killers currently have multiple ways to counter saboing. It takes a lot of perks, items and time to sabo effectively...

I really dont understand why killers are freaking out as gen speed toolboxes are being nerfed to pretty much garbage tier. Just bc saboing will be somewhat more viable doesnt mean itll be broken. Oh and let's not forget the massive buff pigs perk is getting. So overall I think itll be a healthy update.

I never said ANY of that was ok.

If you look at my post history you'll see I'm vehemently against ANY DC for ANY reason.

But that wouldnt fit your argument, would it?

Stop trying to put words in my mouth in lieu of an actual rebuttal.

As I say, every time, for every player or situation: if you cant or wont finish the whole game, dont queue up. Its selfish and ruins everyone elses game.

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Hangman's Trick apparently will not make it to live as it currently is. Whether it gets nerfed, gutted, or just reverted completely (minus the Bear Trap), I cannot say.