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I think that Freddy is the easiest Killer to play as
He does have map and gen pressure, with addons he does have a passive slowdown, he can spam dream snares or dream pallets without a penalty.
The only penalty he does have is the small loss of a cooldown when he fakes the teleport.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for nerfs, I just feel that he requires almost zero skill for high reward.
But I want to get better at playing against him, so please can you tell me some tips that could help me?
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Almost the only tip that can be given is to stay awake as much as possible. I used to main Freddy and that's really the only counterplay to him
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My best advice is to always ALWAYS find a way to wake up.
Whether by being woken up by a teammate, or by being woken up by an alarm clock, or an interrupted action. Freddy's teleportation and power is halted if everyone keeps themselves awake.
I also have a brother who is a Freddy main, and he tells me that Freddy's that know what they are doing won't rely on their snares to get hits or kills. But rather on their teleportation ability. He basically told me that he only places snares at the beginning of the match, around loops that are considered strong, then spend the rest of the match just hunting down survivors with Discordance or BBQ & Chili.
If you're up against that kind of Freddy, just wake up and don't clump up on gens. Teleportation is again, halted if every survivor is awake. If you're up against a Freddy that spams Dream Snares and Pallets, once again, wake up. His snares and pallets don't work if you are awake. And if you are a good looper, you can keep a Freddy busy as long as you stay awake.
Basically, you need more than just one person being a good looper, you need to sometimes tag in and out so Freddy cannot constantly chase one person with his passive sleep countdown and down them. Without his powers he is an M1 killer that is easily loopable. If he is tunneling someone for more than 60 seconds to try and get them to get snared, he is wasting his time and by then everyone should be on gens making them pop left and right while he is busy downing one person.
As for passive slowdown, his slowdown addons barely add a lot of seconds to generator repair speeds in my opinion. So they're not exactly gamebreaking or noticable.
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I honestly prefer old Freddy to the rework. I think they could've tweaked him rather than do what they did, and he could've been fine. I found old Freddy fun, and new Freddy boring and mindless, for all the reasons already discussed by others.
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I guess you only read the title, I was asking for some tips when playing against him...
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Thank you! You gave me some very good tips. :)
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And he's so [BAD WORD] boring to play. You don't learn anything playing him, his power requires no brain power like the old Freddy did.
As for tips against Freddy, stay awake as much as possible. Awake survivors turn Freddy into an M1 killer.
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I think playing survivor is the most braindead thing you can do in this game.
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I can't fully disagree with that I guess.
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He replied to your original post, you said Freddy requires zero skill for high reward. He explained specific skills that good freddy players have.
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I do miss old Freddy, he was pretty bad but i think if they just reverted the nerf he got on release and buffed that version of him I think they could have made him work. Maybe they'll bring back that verison of Freddy as an original killer but they have more freedom as to how they want to tweak the power but I think i'm reaching.
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I guess he did, but he blew up his whole argument with the blindfolded thing, also I asked if he could give me some advice when playing against him in my original post.
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I liked the old Freddy too, I miss him...
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I don't think he is braindead to play as but he does require a lot less skill compared to other killers.
Here's a tip for going against him: If he's using snares, don't be greedy at loops and don't be afraid to drop pallets early. He can end loops pretty quickly so dropping pallets early is pretty much the best thing you can do in loops unfortunately.
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Throw pallets early, stay awake, rush gens. That's pretty much it. He is a pretty oppressive killer that can deal with almost everything in the game and end chases quickly but he'll still lose if the survivors are good and have a bit of sense. I do agree that he's definitely the easiest killer in the game with high reward and a bit overtuned but I wouldn't want any of his abilities nerfed. I think there should be 2 changes:
Let BT proc while survivors are in the dream world. This is just a stupid af change that shouldn't have ever happened. Wasn't necessary at all.
Let survivors wake up using any clock but then change something else about them as a countermeasure. Maybe survivors can't see the auras of the clocks but the clocks are louder, or they fall asleep faster?
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What I find funny is that the real reason Freddy was reworked is because noob survivors hated him so they reworked him into a generic brainlet killer and still survivors hate facing him because he's boring and un-interactive
"YEEEEAAAAH DON'T YOU LOVE THE NEW FREDDY GUYS!"
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Seriously that rework was a waste of ######### time. Should have just buffed the old Freddy BHVR.
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I have to agree, I mean, to date I dont think I have "lost" any game with new freddy, they all end in 1k or up and I dont feel I had outplayed any of the players, I just teleport, spam puddles/fake pallets and the rest is history.
I wish we could get old Freddy as a new killer some day.
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You guys want wall hack Freddy back? All old Freddies tunneled hard because they're already caught up to someone after 7 seconds.
The problem with new Freddy is he has too many good passives. He doesn't go into blackout cooldown mode like Nurse or Legion, can use his power mid-chase without any loss in ground, can on demand go to any gen on the map, and forces survivors to mind their hook saves by waking up first. Theres also the ability to fake out survivors using their only form of defense, and not having the immunity mechanic old Freddy had to M1. So I suppose ease of use equals boring for some people. But it's also oppressive as well at the same time.
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You didn't just "ask for tips against freddy" you very rudely said that freddy requires no skill to play. Which he requires a hell of a lot of skill to play, like any of the top tier killers - and he isn't even of the highest tier. Then when someone called you out on your ######### - you acted innocent.
I am a Freddy main and made a whole guide on how to counter him, because he is very easy to counter if you know how he works. Like countering a nurse or spirit. Though i'm not about to tell someone like you how, because of your initial attitude in the first place. I hope the next freddy 4ks you before you even finish your 3rd gen. (Bte countering freddy is more than staying awake, but please fail a skillcheck to wake up)
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I can agree, freddy is quite braindead, but he is one of the only killers that can adequately apply the necessary gen pressure the devs obviously want in this game. At a high level he can be countered by being awake (turning him into a straight m1 killer). If you are asleep though, you lose.
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They tunnled because most players were garbage at old Freddy. Tunnelling with old Freddy is a guaranteed lose.
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That was kind of a rude comment, I guess you're really angry at me because I told that your main is "braindead".
I was saying that Freddy is the one Killer that is very low risk high reward, you don't even have to be decent at playing Killer to win as him, just slap on PGTW and other gen slowdown perks and roughly in 90% of games the gens will never get done.
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Thank you for your tips!
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You call his comment rude then say you don’t even have to be decent to win as him... irony much?
Secondly, even with Pop and his (nerfed) slowdown addons any decent team will still get gens done. Good survivors can still loop him for a bit by dropping pallets and abusing the fact that pallet vaults are always fast. When you tak about “brain dead 4K with 5 gens left,” type of games you’re playing rank 10 or lower, sorry to be that guy but those games aren’t happening in red ranks.
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This is an obvious bait thread.
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I wasn't using swear words, I wasn't using sarcasm, I was only saying that Freddy is low risk high reward Killer, you don't have to be good to use his power, I didn't meant to say that the guy was terrible at playing Killer if it sounded like that I apologize.
I guess you don't play in red ranks much, because any Survivor can be in red ranks now, even the Blendettes that do nothing the whole game. And ranks mean nothing because of the broken matchmaking.
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If anything you don't like is a "bait" thread, then I'm sorry, but I don't know what are you doing here.
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If you're awake and know he's using dream pallets, scout the area for pallets.
Then, when you fall asleep, you'll know what pallets are safe and drop the fake ones to prevent them from tricking your teammates.
I remember one game where a Freddy wanted me dead because I was dropping all of his fake pallets. This is a Freddy's worst nightmare. 😁
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You literally started the thread off calling a killer braindead, then tried to cover it up by saying it's a thread looking for tips how to counter that killer. Anyone with common sense knows that you can't really say a Killer is braindead when you're losing because you don't know how to counter them. Then when people called you on it, you pretend to act innocent. Even as far as to act innocent when someone calls you on acting innocent. The entire time making a thread out of one the hardest killers in the game to play - going as far as to have responses saying that playing Survivor is hard, when everyone knows that survivor is the easiest role to play in the game (the dev's literally base the game around giving the survivors an easier time playing the game in lowest ranks).
This is obviously a bait thread, and your obviously still replying to me to continue trolling. I am just going to along, because it's further proof this isn't a serious thread.
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So, you are saying he's balanced. Good to know.
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couldn't you just do the same thing as docter tho making the game last 10,000 years
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Stay awake as much as possible. Freddy can have an awful time getting the initial hit against someone who is awake. If he teleports mid chase, double back. Dream pallets have a low res quality on low graphics settings. It's subtle, but they look different.
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Yeah, not sure why @AhoyWolf is targeting Freddy with that comment. Any killer can stack gen slowdown perks... maybe you’re thinking of old forever Freddy but they nerfed the living daylights our of jump rope and chain.
If anything I would argue Doc or legion are better at the annoying slowdown stuff, legion forces mending and Doc snap out of it which they both have addons to make longer
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I called Freddy "braindead" because I think he does have the lowest skill ceiling in the game, also I wanted to know how to counter him better so I asked, nothing wrong with it.
Instead of just trying to say that "I'm trying to be innocent" you actually tell me what about Freddy does require skill, it would be helpful and I could learn something new.
Also I don't know where did you found that Survivors are hard lmao.
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Pretty much yes, just that he does have the lowest skill ceiling in the game.
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You’re confusing skill ceiling and skill floor to be honest. His ceiling is higher than a lot of other killers. An amazing Freddy has a lot of options and little tricks that he can use compared to a killer like Bubba.
His floor means almost anyone can pick him up and do decently, that is something I think a lot of people would agree with you on. Simply spamming snares during a chase and teleporting to a gen someone is on by using BBQ/tremors/surveillance/discordance will give you fair results
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Any Killer can but not many Killers can just teleport to the gen. Also I'm aware that his slowdown addons were nerfed to the ground.
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You're right, sorry for that mistake. :)
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What takes skill? Timing his abilities, knowing where to place snares, and trying to keep everyone asleep so that your abilities are actually useful. He has an early game, mid game, and end game strategies you have to follow - each one you need to learn that changes how you use his snares / teleport entirely. Every single aspect of the killer has sound notifications, and animations. Survivors are well aware of what's he's doing at all times. He's so easy to counter that it makes sense he is so hard to play. The idea you didn't figure that out yourself is mind blowing - I would sooner just tell you to keep practicing against him and you will easily see how easy it is to beat him. Maybe play him against some moderatly good players in higher ranks, and you will see how easy it is to counter him - when you watch for yourself, everything you do the other survivors counter. Even the slow from his snares doesn't entirely stop survivors from being able to loop Freddy around strong loops, it just means you have to use different positioning than what you're used to.
I have a much easier time playing Clown than I do Freddy. Legion, and Huntress too. The reason I play Freddy is because I enjoy the technical aspects, and all the ahead of time thinking he requires. A lot more skill than pressing m2 - you can no longer loop or see where you're going. A lot more skill then pressing m2, and get a free hit with an easy skill shot. A lot more skill then pressing m2, and just hitting each survivor once.
The only reason you think he is "easy to play" (lol nice edit though - way to avoid being jailed, people get jailed immediatly for making these bait threads). Is because you know nothing about him, and it shows. So the freddy's stomp you because of your lack of skill - not theirs.
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I personally hate playing against Spirit more than Freddy. His add ons can be annoying at times but so can Spirits so I equally hate playing against them I guess...lol. Hillbilly needs cooldown, just sayin
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Yes, zero skill for high reward. What do you not understand? That teleport trick is cool, and might get you a free hit down, but he can still dominate without it. If you are 10 feet away from someone, you have a gun and they don't, who cares how skilled you are? A perfect headshot is the same result as multiple chest shots, and is only slightly faster. The OP simply said that even just spamming his powers, anyone can easily down survivors.
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At least you told me something about him, thank you for that! Also you didn't have to be sarcastic.
Good for you, glad that you can do well with the Clown. Also I'm happy that you enjoy playing as Freddy. I just think that new player can pick him up and do decently with him without even trying.
Also if you would pay attention I didn't changed anything, it was a mod... So nice try.
EDIT: forgot to mention you @Pythonheir.
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Every thread that i have seen has at least 1 comment saying "bait" even if they are raising valid points and having a normal discussion.
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If you were here earlier the dude was straight up being toxic calilng braindead, and trying to hide behind "this is just a tips thread". Then the mods came in and edited his stuff instead of just jailing him immediately. I guess it's fine if it's a thread against killers, instead of survivors - more favortism obviously. At least the dude changed his tune after his warning.
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freddy is a low effort high reward killer. so braindead it's ridiculous
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Really easy way I deal with Freddy is memory. It wastes a lot a time to prep it but it is so good! Continuously waking yourself up can get long and tedious especially if the clock is over the other end of a map. Essentially, I remember where Freddy placed dream pallets and snares and then create unique pathing so I can avoid said traps. It’s difficult, particularly in dead zones where there isn’t much to go by except that one pallet that may or not be fake. So for instance, instead of rushing shack, I’d go around the windowless wall to avoid snares and continue looping him until I can successfully waste shack pallet! With dream pallets, all ya need to do is remember where the real ones are!
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No, you tag everyone, and while they're flopping around trying to self care themselves awake again, you remove one person so you're not stuck in a constant loop of them waking each other up. That was the most efficient way to play Freddy.
Sure you could let people go, but they're on a time limit of how long it takes to get a skillcheck. Then it's back to rushing gens which was that much easier to do because they were already on a gen. Which you needed to watch for 7 seconds before doing anything.
There were zero mindgames if they were asleep when paired with M&A. You constantly saw their aura if you backed off a little. And it was a seesaw of people having to be put back into the dream if they were even a little bit coordinated. That's mainly why they changed it. If new Freddy is boring, old Freddy was shallow.
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You think I don't know how to play a killer I mained. Tell me something I don't know...
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Like he wouldn't be able to read it...
You know that I wasn't calling anyone "brain dead", only Freddy and I can agree that it was a little bit harsh to call Freddy like that, but the only toxic guy is you here, always trying to make me look bad.
I wasn't hiding behind anything, that's called being polite and I wasn't attacking people because I disagree with them like you did...
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My point exactly. See completely innocent now that his posts been changed LUL 🤣.
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