What happened to "closing the gap between solo and swf"?

The sabotage change that's coming seems exactly that, since it makes team coordination unneeded for sabo saves. Something is being done.

Kindred got buffed. Equipping it gives you basically SWF level info about hooked survivors and when you're hooked it gives that info to your team.

Even if an ally doesn't have Kindred, you still get info as if they did as long as you have Kindred.

Aside from this, not much else to be said.

I remember they mentioned that they gave the ability to see Demogorgon's portals breaking for the solo communication. Now we're waiting for other changes. Maybe in 2 years we will be able to see which other teammates is opening a chest.

How would a inbuilt nerfed kindred have widened the gap? All that’s needed is for killer detection to be removed, so swf can’t see stealth killers around the hook, which is a slight gap widen. Another perk could just have that feature in the future or kindreds perk redesign would...

also why can’t we have a indicater for when someone’s being chased? That apparently widens the gap too? Your comment doesn’t have much context or reasoning. So many reasonable ideas have been left unanswered.

Well maybe you can refer how communication in other games work.

In game text chat (player can choose skip certain player text chat if they wish)

In game voice comm (player can choose mute certain player if they wish )

Fast wheel text chat select (hold G, wheel appear and player can quickly select the text they wish to enter to text chat insted of typing them )

Developer could always ask opinion from player idea if they facing some difficulty. I am sure that some Player will give proper and logic solution.

Well, this is not a valid reason to completely ignore the in game communication system. A lots of other game that have playerbase from many country are having in game communication system and run perfectly fine.

You may use a fast wheel text chat with all the default text. Example -> Killer is nearby me, Killer is chasing me, Come with me, Go for the safe, Killer is coming. All this default text will display different language depend on player language setting if player select it.

Example, player A with language setting English, select fast wheel chat -> Killer is nearby me.

Other player will saw "Killer is nearby me" in the text chat according to the language of their setting.

How is it a nerf to solo saboteurs, particularly since the change is to make it more accessible and viable for everyone?

Buffing solo doesn’t buff swf if kindred loses its killer detection at least and you seem to miss the point that it’s to make solo more like swf. Swf shouldn’t be using kindred in the first place, so it’s not like a free perk if they have something they already had, which is awareness. There was already no need for bond, but bond still will help with no comms because kindred requires a hook... think it’s also ok to have a useless perk, since many others are. and crystal bead is still op to find hatch gens totems gates hooks basement and reveal it to the whole team, something swf still benefits from. I honestly don’t understand how you base that off of anything.

if no one saves with kindred you have troll teammates or you’re at rank 20... what is your point.

If you have a totem counter and there’s 2 totems left and you know ones ruin, it can tell you that the other could be devour of hope etc so it’s noteworthy to know... even if it’s just a dull one.

the game works better when there’s ambiguity, but swf doesn’t have that and it’s a topic about solo vs swf with it being off topic to say these things. It’s all for balance and what the devs stupidly said about closing the gap so killers get buffed. Noobs can still be immersed at rank 20 and not understand these signs anyway, or have a advanced option list to choose them.

Not cod style if you get it with every game including dead by daylight console messages with party invites and end game screen text....people are babies if they don’t want verbal assault with a provided mute button. It’s just some people don’t want to engage in conversation or conflict. But that happens anyway and in the end the mute button is no different than having no comms. Unless you feel as though he could telepathically speak to you and you feel offended thinking about what he’s saying, knowing what he sounds like.

you don’t need to know the exact centimetre someone is. The swf compass strategy with callouts that I have created is more than enough and better than kindred in every way, remember kindred is only while hooked for solo queue people. While swf have a perma solution. So it’s not showing more than words then. Gate aures should be nerfed, people need to put in effort swf or not and look for where they are before gens done.

your next point is solo should be blind so they can be sacrificed for swf? I don’t get it. Solo has problems but can have less problems. I also run with a no mic swf sometimes and everyone is coordinated enough without buffs, but need the extra push. Solo won’t have problems if they behave like my no mic team after a while.

only scenario you can’t save a hooked person is if their face camping with no bt on the team, or leather face. Every other scenario only has benefit. It’s odds at red rank is close to 0 and doesn’t make kindred pointless for that sole fact. Even if their rank 20 with higher odds, it’s pointless because it happened to not work that particular game. It’s like saying escaping is pointless because I can’t do it every time. I don’t want to hook save because it doesn’t work 100%.

I stated the devs will buff killers after people are more like swf... that’s what he gets in return. Try asking the devs their plan and why the topic is worded as ( what happened to closing the gap)

people seeing a different map will mean 4 separate servers and people shouldn’t be able to interact with eachother. Never seen another way because it’s broken and no way a killer can chase on 4 maps. A landmark is a loop or location, so you’re saying 4 different maps aka servers.

I already said a chat wheel would be a good addition but it doesn't help solve the issue as it still takes time to use unlike comms which are on the fly and useful at all times. Try using a wheel when in a chase.

You completely missed the point and dota2 is a bad example as it had the usetbase to allow such things.

When it comes to smaller playerbase there is never a guarantee everyone could speak one language.

Your comment regarding not going to another country is also a bad analogy since yes many do it but they can use certain things to translate easier as they aren't in a rush to do so. I don't know why you felt the nees to bepassive aggressive with the "keep the world small" line.

The fact is doing this will force countries to speak another language and be disadvantaged if they don't. I'm happy it wouldn't affect yourself but you must consider those who it would.

You are advocating players who may have bought the game as it didnt have comms to be disadvantaged due to a small minority of players using it.

Comms itself isn't that strong its what some can do with it that is. It's the knowledge of the group and being highly coordinated which make it so.

If I may be so bold (and sorry if this isn't my place to say), but why force solo survivors to sacrifice perk slots to close the gap? SWF don't need any perk slots to tell their buddies who's the closest and therefore, who has the right of way for the unhook. 🙂

There are many more which don't have the option than have it.

The amount of red which are problematic like it or not is a minority in this game.

Only 3 or 4 man can fall under the banner which not all use comms or are even that good.

To say less people can't speak a language is a made up statistic. You don't know how many this would affect so its pure speculation. What we do know for certain though is it WOULD affect those no matter the number.

Players can have an I formed choice to purchase the game right now as it is. The same can't be said for those tha5 wpudlnt have a choice and be disadvantaged.

you keep going off topic on purpose. You’re on a campaign to keep the game balanced for low rank survivors and so killer never gets buffed.

again It’s just while hooked so there’s no gap widen and that’s not shallow if the goal is to balance. it saves a stupid callout like north west or I’m at shack.

Theres already no mistakes in a good swf and you still say it without killer buffs in mind.

You can play near perfect without comms as stated by me with no mic squad. Randoms at red rank will learn or die and you can try in another game. Don’t get that point atm.

Killers are already wildly effective lower rank and that’s the problem. Higher rank their effective too from idiots. They need support and they will learn especially as dbd slows down on new players getting the game in a year or so. Gen speed will never be touched but with swf balance killers can get power buffs or better blocking perks etc.

totems... how would you even know your team is doing totems and you would be running around looking from various examples given. It just doesn’t matter to you. Again it’s for swf likeness sake, but you want non swf to not be equal.

You cant level shift a shack though as you need to interact with it.... it is not going to ever be considered. But it will only work if objects disappear after a certain distance, which is annoying and disorientating for everyone, ruining loop plans etc

I really wish I had your level of patience. Some of these users drive me nuts and y'all really deserve more credit for braving these forums and for even responding.

You are a hero

I have no problem with a totem counter but I don't think it should be part of the base kit.

May not seem like much but it could potentially add a lot of benefit for it just be a standard base utility.

Putting it on something like small games would be a lot better it would give more value to the perk considering the perks mean purposes basically become cleansing totems. It will also benefit the potential for various meta as if you add too many things to the base kit elements you shut down the need for purpose and make the matter that was already stagnating stuck a lot more.

Why run small games you have a totem counter run defensive strike, borrowed time and dead hard instead.

Why run bonds, empathy or aftercare you have base kindred run defensive strike, borrowed time and dead hard instead.

That's the problem with adding perks into the baseline he doesn't actually help diversity amongst build instead it pigeonholed everything into using one perk setup because you have all the other information for free.

Survive with friends also fall under the same benefit. No point in contesting who is going to go for the save we can all see you who is closest to the hook plus we could use our extra comm information so we are a massively ahead of Solo play

What's the point of a discussing how many totems we've destroyed we have a counter so we don't need to keep count but unlike solo we can actually pinpoint where we last will be saw them if we can't break it ourselves.

Yes solo survivors will benefit from however so will survive with friends it wouldn't shorten the gap it will probably still remain the exact same size. Solo survivors will just be brought to the level of old survivor friends whilst new survivor with friends will become even stronger