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About new killer's problems

Luven
Luven Member Posts: 41
edited August 2018 in General Discussions

First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.

I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, The fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )

I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.

I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her. Rather, you should have applied the new costume of her to the original costume. That's a lot better.

Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her. Even if it's an old Japanese tale, women are sensitive about fathers killing their daughters. ( Especially in Korea
) But you used it as a stories material. I'm pretty disappointed.

Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification.
I just want them to realize that it was a serious problem that users stopped playing, rather than thinking that one user was quitting.
You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.

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  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498
    Lol why would anyone care??
  • Brawler
    Brawler Member Posts: 333
    Well, Killers aren't rather supposed to look like humans and have also the humans' traits. I understand what you are feeling and how it looks, but it was created as a in-game character, designed to be terryfing, scary. I think there is nothing wrong with her appearance, even if she is barely clothed. Don't take it too serious, as it is just a creature walking 'round the fog. 
  • JEWberry
    JEWberry Member Posts: 78

    Have you heard of Friday the 13th: The Game? Yah...that has waaaaaay more sexual objectification than this game so idk why as soon as the devs add a killer that is revealing yet very cool, it pisses you all off when f13 has almost every character with sexual objectification. Don't give that excuse that "Ohhhh it's just f13, that's how it is in the movies so it is just true to the movies" Well dbd is true to it's lore and that's what she was wearing at the time.

    Her lore is disturbing BECAUSE it is so realistic. Horror pulls from the realm of possibility to make a person fear what could happen. Several killers had demented backstories like the descriptive Clown bio where he cuts off limbs from animals and also takes pleasure in torturing his victims. No one says anything about that? Also, women are murdered by their father's EVERYWHERE. Stop acting like it is only in Asia because it is not.

    Your post also restates every single point other people had on this forum so you literally just read someone's post, got angry, made your own account just to post this garbage that everyone else is saying. This is Dead by Daylight rated M for mature, not Awake by Dawn rated E for everyone. I literally didn't even think about the sexual objectification until all of you people started slandering the new killer because of it. It's annoying because a lot of people were more focused on her perks and gameplay while you are focused on assaulting the killer because it is not politically correct. Ik i sound toxic rn but it is because i am annoyed by these people not giving any valuable feedback on the patch based on balance but on a killer's looks. I happen to have tons of female players telling me how amazing the new killer is and ik everyone is using that point as back-up but literally only a select few of you all on the forums are getting pissy about it.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    Lol why would anyone care??

    Look at Forum, I'm not the only one who cares.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Brawler said:
    Well, Killers aren't rather supposed to look like humans and have also the humans' traits. I understand what you are feeling and how it looks, but it was created as a in-game character, designed to be terryfing, scary. I think there is nothing wrong with her appearance, even if she is barely clothed. Don't take it too serious, as it is just a creature walking 'round the fog. 

    Are there really any problems? Since Kate, they've given breast bouncing to female characters for sex appeal. Even if they didn't mean it, it wouldn't be good to see breast bouncing happen all of a sudden.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @JEWberry said:
    Have you heard of Friday the 13th: The Game? Yah...that has waaaaaay more sexual objectification than this game so idk why as soon as the devs add a killer that is revealing yet very cool, it pisses you all off when f13 has almost every character with sexual objectification. Don't give that excuse that "Ohhhh it's just f13, that's how it is in the movies so it is just true to the movies" Well dbd is true to it's lore and that's what she was wearing at the time.

    Her lore is disturbing BECAUSE it is so realistic. Horror pulls from the realm of possibility to make a person fear what could happen. Several killers had demented backstories like the descriptive Clown bio where he cuts off limbs from animals and also takes pleasure in torturing his victims. No one says anything about that? Also, women are murdered by their father's EVERYWHERE. Stop acting like it is only in Asia because it is not.

    Your post also restates every single point other people had on this forum so you literally just read someone's post, got angry, made your own account just to post this garbage that everyone else is saying. This is Dead by Daylight rated M for mature, not Awake by Dawn rated E for everyone. I literally didn't even think about the sexual objectification until all of you people started slandering the new killer because of it. It's annoying because a lot of people were more focused on her perks and gameplay while you are focused on assaulting the killer because it is not politically correct. Ik i sound toxic rn but it is because i am annoyed by these people not giving any valuable feedback on the patch based on balance but on a killer's looks. I happen to have tons of female players telling me how amazing the new killer is and ik everyone is using that point as back-up but literally only a select few of you all on the forums are getting pissy about it.

    Yeah, I know that game but I'm talking about a problem with DBD. Don't try to compare it to other games. You're clouding the issue now.

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498

    i would gladly argue against you because quite frankly, you are being a whiny baby about absolutely nothing... the hag literally has a tit showing and you dont mention it... why do you have to bring feminist mubo jumbo to gaming. this is so stupid i honestly cant tell if you are joking or using this discussion as bait

  • CallMeRusty420
    CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    You posted the same thread twice? Wow xD

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    You posted the same thread twice? Wow xD

    Every time I saw the post, I thought it was an error and I didn't upload it, why? Are you saying strange things here?

  • CallMeRusty420
    CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    You posted the same thread twice? Wow xD

    Every time I saw the post, I thought it was an error and I didn't upload it, why? Are you saying strange things here?

    Ah I've had that issue before. I can understand that. And what strange things are you talkin about? lol

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    i would gladly argue against you because quite frankly, you are being a whiny baby about absolutely nothing... the hag literally has a tit showing and you dont mention it... why do you have to bring feminist mubo jumbo to gaming. this is so stupid i honestly cant tell if you are joking or using this discussion as bait

    Damn, why should I hear you say that? Do you have any thoughts? You don't even know what the problem is. You just treat me like a whiny baby and you don't even know the problem. You really make me angry. And you didn't even read my post properly. I mentioned Hag, stupid.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    You posted the same thread twice? Wow xD

    Every time I saw the post, I thought it was an error and I didn't upload it, why? Are you saying strange things here?

    Ah I've had that issue before. I can understand that. And what strange things are you talkin about? lol

    If I'm saying wrong, it's because of translation, you stupid. I am already tired of thinking about talking with you here even I using the translator. And this post has more content than the other. You think it's just the same thing.

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    These Koreans with their sexual stuff, just stop

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Someissues said:
    These Koreans with their sexual stuff, just stop

    You're not an Asian woman, so you can say it easily?

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    @Luven said:
    You're not an Asian woman, so you can say it easily?

    I am asian myself but I am not that shameless enough to post stuff like that which is completely unrelated to DBD

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498
    Luven said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    i would gladly argue against you because quite frankly, you are being a whiny baby about absolutely nothing... the hag literally has a tit showing and you dont mention it... why do you have to bring feminist mubo jumbo to gaming. this is so stupid i honestly cant tell if you are joking or using this discussion as bait

    Damn, why should I hear you say that? Do you have any thoughts? You don't even know what the problem is. You just treat me like a whiny baby and you don't even know the problem. You really make me angry. And you didn't even read my post properly. I mentioned Hag, stupid.

    You're right I didn't see that part but your point is still invalid... you say it doesn't count with the hag because she looks like a corpse but so does the spirit. I don't know what your deal is but just leave dbd alone and they aren't gonna change anything for a few people that think a near naked killer is a bad thing. To sum it up your opinion is dumb the killer that has clothing on and is chopped up is bad but the killer that LITERALLY HAS A NIPPLE SHOWING isn't. I just don't understand people like you 
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    You're right I didn't see that part but your point is still invalid... you say it doesn't count with the hag because she looks like a corpse but so does the spirit. I don't know what your deal is but just leave dbd alone and they aren't gonna change anything for a few people that think a near naked killer is a bad thing. To sum it up your opinion is dumb the killer that has clothing on and is chopped up is bad but the killer that LITERALLY HAS A NIPPLE SHOWING isn't. I just don't understand people like you 

    It's because they're attracted to her.

    All these post are the same bullshit. I find her sexy and that's a problem.

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498
    @Mc_Harty I don't know what they expect these devs have said on multiple occasions that money is an issue with making animations new killers, survivors etc. if they just simply took her out of the game like some of them want(other people not this person) they would lose so much more money than they would if these people just simply quit the game and never played it again. So I'll say this to people that want stuff changed.

    BYE
  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498
    Mc_Harty said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    You're right I didn't see that part but your point is still invalid... you say it doesn't count with the hag because she looks like a corpse but so does the spirit. I don't know what your deal is but just leave dbd alone and they aren't gonna change anything for a few people that think a near naked killer is a bad thing. To sum it up your opinion is dumb the killer that has clothing on and is chopped up is bad but the killer that LITERALLY HAS A NIPPLE SHOWING isn't. I just don't understand people like you 

    It's because they're attracted to her.

    All these post are the same bullshit. I find her sexy and that's a problem.

    Also I'm attracted to the hag please cloth her she is oversexualized 
  • JEWberry
    JEWberry Member Posts: 78

    @Luven said:
    Yeah, I know that game but I'm talking about a problem with DBD. Don't try to compare it to other games. You're clouding the issue now.

    Oh but you missed every other point i discussed? And plus the situations happen in both games yet one gets ######### on and the other doesn’t? I am still talking about DBD nonetheless, just comparing it to another game in order to prove a point. It only helps my case that they are both asymmetrical horrors. Idk why this issue is a problem when it happens in a MAJORITY of games coming out.

    Your input on this social issue literally brings 0 balance and or feedback that benefits the game’s newest chapter. There are cosmetics in the game files that give her clothes so if u are so entitled to your opinion, just wear that instead when the actual dlc drops. Also, the devs resisted in adding a clown earlier because the phobia for them was so common and then they went back on their word and added him. Guess who conplained? NO ONE. Appreciate that the devs are actually adding killers and survivors on a set schedule every 3 months and not one in 3 months or 5 months or 7 months you never knew before.

    Im sorry but your post literally doesn’t do anything for the game, i have to restate that. Even if a 100 people leave to ######### riot 1000 more will join in your places so why would the devs botger listening?

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    Also I'm attracted to the hag please cloth her she is oversexualized 

  • JEWberry
    JEWberry Member Posts: 78

    @Luven said:
    If I'm saying wrong, it's because of translation, you stupid. I am already tired of thinking about talking with you here even I using the translator. And this post has more content than the other. You think it's just the same thing.

    It is the same thing. Your main points are sexual objectification, change the lore because it is graphic and offensive to people of eastern culture, and that you will probably quit if not changed. Everyone like you is saying these things, your not the first one. Just look through the older threads.

    I would bet money that you and a majority of the people complaining are going to play the game anyways, whether you like the new killer or not. No one will drop one of their beloved games just because of one problem. After all, killers stick around even with decisive strike in the game and gens popping ridiculously fast.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Lol you think this new killer is the first sexualized killer, have you met the clown now HE needs to be completly censored from the game, sexy beast ; ) 
  • Someone
    Someone Member Posts: 11

    I can't understand why you say that Hag's design is good while Spirit's bad while their designs are very similar. They both almost died and both look like living corpses with something that you can guess was cloth once. Of course you can say that Spirit could have her clothes that she weared before becoming who she is now. But her and Hag's outfits only shows how devastating for them (both mentally and physically) were events that led to becoming a killer. Their clothes are as much destroyed as they are. Also why should corpse care about clothing?

    And about breast bouncing. It's natural that breasts bounces (unless you have a very very small breasts). Even if you wear sports bra they do bounce more or less. I don't know if you're a man or woman. I'm a woman and I don't find it disturbing and I don't see it as "sexual objectification". Actually I haven't even noticed that their breasts bounces. I guess if you're a man and you can't focus on game because of that I can kind of understand that's a problem. But yeah if you want Kate, Spirit and rest of female characters to have breasts made of stone or something go for it...

    Also you say David's case is different because he's a fighter. It's not different. A well-built man with no shirt is sexy no matter if he's supposed to wear it or not. With that logic they should add sexy swimsuit for Meg because she's an athlete. Besides what is wrong with attractive/sexy characters in games? We all like to look at anything that is nice looking and that includes attractive people. I see a lot of games and movies with sexy, attractive male characters (mostly main characters) and I haven't seen anyone complaining about it but everytime it's a female there's a sea of complaints.

    Besides if someone is attracted to corpses it's their problem not yours so why do you care?

  • popoles
    popoles Member Posts: 831
    Why can't her breasts bounce? When you have big breasts, they ARE going to bounce, whether you like it or not. It's called physics.
  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,857

    How are people like this actually serious? To find a portrayal of a feminine character attractive. NOPE...we can't have that. Something wrong there....

  • CallMeRusty420
    CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Luven said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    i would gladly argue against you because quite frankly, you are being a whiny baby about absolutely nothing... the hag literally has a tit showing and you dont mention it... why do you have to bring feminist mubo jumbo to gaming. this is so stupid i honestly cant tell if you are joking or using this discussion as bait

    Damn, why should I hear you say that? Do you have any thoughts? You don't even know what the problem is. You just treat me like a whiny baby and you don't even know the problem. You really make me angry. And you didn't even read my post properly. I mentioned Hag, stupid.

    You're calling them names and not even giving valid points as to why your opinion on the matter is close to being an actual problem but instead resort to childish BHVR with name calling and ignoring requests for reasoning behind your statement. This is why you're not taken seriously.

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    I don't see the problem.

    As I understand it, the devs were trying to design a spirit-like killer.

    And in my view, they succeeded.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    Oh lord. Not sure whether to laugh or cry here, but instead i shall do my best to be nice even though this kind of stuff just makes my hackles rise.

    The simple fact is, if you do not like this character, you do not have to play her. If you don't like the idea of her appearing in your survivor matches....well I'm sad to say this is where your problem hits a brick wall, because it is YOUR problem and you cannot dictate to millions of players who/how/what they should play, you just can't, and that is a fact you need to understand before anybody takes you seriously.

    You didn't come to this post with compromise and a willingness to understand anybodies view, you came here with a demand, the equivalent of stomping your food and declaring 'do it now'

    And your answer if they don't do it [Insert Cartman voice] screw you guys I'm going home.

    I'm not going to argue about how women are presented in video games, it seems to be a circular argument with you, plus I'm a 36 year old woman and I can only grin wearily when the subject comes up before grinning and remembering the days of the 'naked lara cheat, and hot coffee :D

    The current player climate is weighed heavily against you, and that is what will win out at the end of the day, because its not an issue that has any affect on the gameplay itself (unless someone is truly distracted by the jiggle mid skill check!) nor is it an issue that even has an effect on the majority of female players from what i have seen so far, and I've read a lot of these threads.

    I can't say your particular beef is ever going to be popular around here, but if you want actual constructive conversation here, don't walk in here with demands, and do not presume to speak for other woman.

    (Apologies if that was sprawling, dental pain meds kicking in!)

  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    Just stop. You are not going to be getting any response better than GTFO.
  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Someissues said:

    @Luven said:
    You're not an Asian woman, so you can say it easily?

    I am asian myself but I am not that shameless enough to post stuff like that which is completely unrelated to DBD

    And Are you a woman?

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    Luven said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:

    i would gladly argue against you because quite frankly, you are being a whiny baby about absolutely nothing... the hag literally has a tit showing and you dont mention it... why do you have to bring feminist mubo jumbo to gaming. this is so stupid i honestly cant tell if you are joking or using this discussion as bait

    Damn, why should I hear you say that? Do you have any thoughts? You don't even know what the problem is. You just treat me like a whiny baby and you don't even know the problem. You really make me angry. And you didn't even read my post properly. I mentioned Hag, stupid.

    You're right I didn't see that part but your point is still invalid... you say it doesn't count with the hag because she looks like a corpse but so does the spirit. I don't know what your deal is but just leave dbd alone and they aren't gonna change anything for a few people that think a near naked killer is a bad thing. To sum it up your opinion is dumb the killer that has clothing on and is chopped up is bad but the killer that LITERALLY HAS A NIPPLE SHOWING isn't. I just don't understand people like you 

    When did I say hag look like a corpse? I said she doesn't feel sexually because she doesn't look like human. If Spirit was designed like that, I wouldn't have said anything. It's not the problem that naked killers are. If it was a problem, I would have seen Hag and said something. And I didn't criticize her because she was naked and cut. Rather, she liked the design of her broken joints. You really don't understand. You'll never understand.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @JEWberry said:

    @Luven said:
    Yeah, I know that game but I'm talking about a problem with DBD. Don't try to compare it to other games. You're clouding the issue now.

    Oh but you missed every other point i discussed? And plus the situations happen in both games yet one gets ######### on and the other doesn’t? I am still talking about DBD nonetheless, just comparing it to another game in order to prove a point. It only helps my case that they are both asymmetrical horrors. Idk why this issue is a problem when it happens in a MAJORITY of games coming out.

    Your input on this social issue literally brings 0 balance and or feedback that benefits the game’s newest chapter. There are cosmetics in the game files that give her clothes so if u are so entitled to your opinion, just wear that instead when the actual dlc drops. Also, the devs resisted in adding a clown earlier because the phobia for them was so common and then they went back on their word and added him. Guess who conplained? NO ONE. Appreciate that the devs are actually adding killers and survivors on a set schedule every 3 months and not one in 3 months or 5 months or 7 months you never knew before.

    Im sorry but your post literally doesn’t do anything for the game, i have to restate that. Even if a 100 people leave to ######### riot 1000 more will join in your places so why would the devs botger listening?

    If I had played the game, I must have criticized it. And there are dozens of stories about me stopping playing games, and it's not important that I quit. I want them to know that this problem is serious enough for users who really liked DBD to quit playing games. I'm not asking them to be interested in quitting.They may not be interested in what I am saying, but at least some users will know that there is such an opinion. Of course, it's very nice of them to produce new killers, survivors, and maps every season. But that doesn't mean her problem is justified.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @JEWberry said:

    @Luven said:
    If I'm saying wrong, it's because of translation, you stupid. I am already tired of thinking about talking with you here even I using the translator. And this post has more content than the other. You think it's just the same thing.

    It is the same thing. Your main points are sexual objectification, change the lore because it is graphic and offensive to people of eastern culture, and that you will probably quit if not changed. Everyone like you is saying these things, your not the first one. Just look through the older threads.

    I would bet money that you and a majority of the people complaining are going to play the game anyways, whether you like the new killer or not. No one will drop one of their beloved games just because of one problem. After all, killers stick around even with decisive strike in the game and gens popping ridiculously fast.

    Then you'll have to pay. People around me are already quitting DBD. And it's not because of Eastern culture. Because they're all about women. It's okay if they don't care about my opinion, at least they'll know if they see one of these opinions. It's not a developer, but at least some users.

  • RagingCalm
    RagingCalm Member Posts: 408

    I didn't even notice breast bouncing until people like OP mentioned it. Even then it is very hard to tell. I think that you just need to stop looking for sex appeal in everything and play the game like everyone else.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @thekiller490490 said:
    Just stop. You are not going to be getting any response better than GTFO.

    I know, but I'll keep fighting. This cannot be justified in any way. I want to quit too. Do you think that I keep doing this beacuse I want to do?

  • BasementLeatherBoi
    BasementLeatherBoi Member Posts: 72

    Out of curiosity how many games have you quit playing because of issues like this?

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    Lol you think this new killer is the first sexualized killer, have you met the clown now HE needs to be completly censored from the game, sexy beast ; ) 

    Is that why his breast is boucing? Was his clothes designed just like body painting? Of course, you can think of the character as sexy. I wouldn't say anything if they were sexy with Huntress or Nurse or Hag.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Mister_Holdout said:
    I don't see the problem.

    As I understand it, the devs were trying to design a spirit-like killer.

    And in my view, they succeeded.

    If you don't see the problem, you're the problem.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @popoles said:
    Why can't her breasts bounce? When you have big breasts, they ARE going to bounce, whether you like it or not. It's called physics.

    You're not a female, are you? I don't know what's in your head, her small breast is boucing, even she wear bandages.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @Someone said:
    I can't understand why you say that Hag's design is good while Spirit's bad while their designs are very similar. They both almost died and both look like living corpses with something that you can guess was cloth once. Of course you can say that Spirit could have her clothes that she weared before becoming who she is now. But her and Hag's outfits only shows how devastating for them (both mentally and physically) were events that led to becoming a killer. Their clothes are as much destroyed as they are. Also why should corpse care about clothing?

    And about breast bouncing. It's natural that breasts bounces (unless you have a very very small breasts). Even if you wear sports bra they do bounce more or less. I don't know if you're a man or woman. I'm a woman and I don't find it disturbing and I don't see it as "sexual objectification". Actually I haven't even noticed that their breasts bounces. I guess if you're a man and you can't focus on game because of that I can kind of understand that's a problem. But yeah if you want Kate, Spirit and rest of female characters to have breasts made of stone or something go for it...

    Also you say David's case is different because he's a fighter. It's not different. A well-built man with no shirt is sexy no matter if he's supposed to wear it or not. With that logic they should add sexy swimsuit for Meg because she's an athlete. Besides what is wrong with attractive/sexy characters in games? We all like to look at anything that is nice looking and that includes attractive people. I see a lot of games and movies with sexy, attractive male characters (mostly main characters) and I haven't seen anyone complaining about it but everytime it's a female there's a sea of complaints.

    Besides if someone is attracted to corpses it's their problem not yours so why do you care?

    Because Hag was not sexual objectification. And Hag is almost bare of bones. It doesn't look like a human being. Is her breast boucing like a Spirit? And Spirit's a dead body, not Hag. I'm a woman, too. I doubt you are really a woman. I knew from a tweet that her breast was boucing. Can a bandage be fastened and a small breast bounce like that? Well, I don't think so. And Meg is a runner. Why do athletes need swimsuits? They're the ones who created their problems.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2018

    @ASurvkillivorer said:
    How are people like this actually serious? To find a portrayal of a feminine character attractive. NOPE...we can't have that. Something wrong there....

    To say that, I've already seen posts telling her she's sexy.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Luven said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    i would gladly argue against you because quite frankly, you are being a whiny baby about absolutely nothing... the hag literally has a tit showing and you dont mention it... why do you have to bring feminist mubo jumbo to gaming. this is so stupid i honestly cant tell if you are joking or using this discussion as bait

    Damn, why should I hear you say that? Do you have any thoughts? You don't even know what the problem is. You just treat me like a whiny baby and you don't even know the problem. You really make me angry. And you didn't even read my post properly. I mentioned Hag, stupid.

    You're calling them names and not even giving valid points as to why your opinion on the matter is close to being an actual problem but instead resort to childish BHVR with name calling and ignoring requests for reasoning behind your statement. This is why you're not taken seriously.

    I e-mailed the DBD developers and they checked it out. Whether or not they take it seriously, I have let them know that there is such an opinion. That's my purpose. You can't read it even if I tell you this is a actual problem. It's Korean.

  • Luven
    Luven Member Posts: 41

    @SoylentPixie said:
    Oh lord. Not sure whether to laugh or cry here, but instead i shall do my best to be nice even though this kind of stuff just makes my hackles rise.

    The simple fact is, if you do not like this character, you do not have to play her. If you don't like the idea of her appearing in your survivor matches....well I'm sad to say this is where your problem hits a brick wall, because it is YOUR problem and you cannot dictate to millions of players who/how/what they should play, you just can't, and that is a fact you need to understand before anybody takes you seriously.

    You didn't come to this post with compromise and a willingness to understand anybodies view, you came here with a demand, the equivalent of stomping your food and declaring 'do it now'

    And your answer if they don't do it [Insert Cartman voice] screw you guys I'm going home.

    I'm not going to argue about how women are presented in video games, it seems to be a circular argument with you, plus I'm a 36 year old woman and I can only grin wearily when the subject comes up before grinning and remembering the days of the 'naked lara cheat, and hot coffee :D

    The current player climate is weighed heavily against you, and that is what will win out at the end of the day, because its not an issue that has any affect on the gameplay itself (unless someone is truly distracted by the jiggle mid skill check!) nor is it an issue that even has an effect on the majority of female players from what i have seen so far, and I've read a lot of these threads.

    I can't say your particular beef is ever going to be popular around here, but if you want actual constructive conversation here, don't walk in here with demands, and do not presume to speak for other woman.

    (Apologies if that was sprawling, dental pain meds kicking in!)

    Looking at you, I think 36 is the age who can have conservative thoughts. Now that you've said that, you can't be nice. 'whether to laugh or cry?' I don't know how to answer, does this matter seem to you to laugh? Look at how I've been answering, I think it'll be enough. I don't want to argue with you as a woman.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192
    edited August 2018

    @Luven said:
    I don't want to argue with you as a woman.

    Why? Does being a woman give me exempt status, or is it because i haven't given you room to call me stupid or tell me i don't understand as you have done to everyone else here who does not share the same ideals you do?

    Or perhaps it's because I have a valid point.

    Also....i could be 36 and still dancing on tables naked while throwing jelly and custard if i wanted to, age has nothing to do with being conservative. It does however allow me to look at the spirit and simply shrug instead of throwing my toys out of the pram because she does not fit my ideals.

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498

    pretty sure everyone here thinks you are insane. really not trying to be mean but this is a really stupid complaint

  • popoles
    popoles Member Posts: 831
    Get off your horse, White Knight.
    So you quit a lot of games just because there were breasts bouncing or some character looked better than you (I assume this, because 90% of complaints from your kind of people is that she has a pretty face)?

    YOU are the problem. YOU are the only one that finds her as a sexual objectification. This game is rated M as Mature, so there can be anything. But I guess that such minority of people will turn spirit into some dilly dally flower that throws cookies.
  • Sarief
    Sarief Member Posts: 543

    @Luven said:

    @popoles said:
    Why can't her breasts bounce? When you have big breasts, they ARE going to bounce, whether you like it or not. It's called physics.

    You're not a female, are you? I don't know what's in your head, her small breast is boucing, even she wear bandages.

    Are you an asian female?
    What being female has to do with anything?

    White straight male. When I look at her I only see pale corpse. Dismembered, at that. Hair is cool and spooky. When you play her - you only see pale hands. When she uses mori, all you see is angry female trying to scream with no sound. How can any of the above arouse anyone? For normal people it's just a monster.

    On your other argument - if girls look like bear (Anna) or rags (Lisa) = it's ok. If they look what you think is beautiful - it's suddenly bad? I don't see you make any arguments on trapper, but if you look at him like that he looks like a pro stripper - only lower half of the body covered, big muscles, etc. I don't think she's beautiful in sexual sense and if you do - you just might have a problem.

  • Someone
    Someone Member Posts: 11

    @Luven said:
    Because Hag was not sexual objectification. And Hag is almost bare of bones. It doesn't look like a human being. Is her breast boucing like a Spirit? And Spirit's a dead body, not Hag. I'm a woman, too. I doubt you are really a woman. I knew from a tweet that her breast was boucing. Can a bandage be fastened and a small breast bounce like that? Well, I don't think so. And Meg is a runner. Why do athletes need swimsuits? They're the ones who created their problems.

    I'm a woman I have no doubt about it but looking at your "logic" I see there's no point in convincing you. I don't know if Hag's breasts are bouncing. As I said I haven't noticed. Maybe because when I play I'm focusing on surviving or killing not on checking if my character is a victim of that so called "sexual objectification". I don't want to assume but for me it just seems that you just have complexes about that body part...or appearance generally. And yes, small breasts bounce too. Believe it or not. If you're indeed a woman you should know that...

    Read Hag's background. She was prisoned, starved and injured. How do you expect her to look after that? The only reason I can think of that Hag's breasts are not bouncing is because there's no fat at all. It's just skin and bones. Spirit wasn't starved, she was just attacked by her father when she came home. But both of them almost died. As I said before they're both like living corpses no matter if they look human or not. Why should corpse care about their clothes? Or rather their remains? If someone has necrophilia then it's their problem not yours. Changing her design won't help in solving this problem though.

    Meg Thomas is an energetic Athlete, able to outrun most Killers. Her main focus is running but she's an athlete. An athlete (also sportsman or sportswoman) is a person who competes in one or more sports that involve physical strength, speed or endurance. If she's a runner only like you say then why there's a tennis outfit for her in store? Swimming is a sport too so I see nothing wrong with giving her a swimsuit.

    They're not creating a problem. You're creating a problem and make other people laugh. Games are created for people to have fun, relax, not to discuss or present political views, morality, world problems etc.

  • HulkHodn
    HulkHodn Member Posts: 116
    Yeah the new killer is damn sexy would be nice when she could be complete naked. We need more sexy killers '_'