Can killers stops complaining so much?

I’ve played killer before with zero perks, items and offerings and I got 3/4 too easily. And they gen rushed me pretty hard too. Idk man I think it’s too easy being killer except when you hit those squads of 4 all communicating it’s stressful. But nah my vote goes to survivor being the most frequently frustrating to play. Mostly because there’s just that feeling of diminishing hope when you see your team going down so fast. Like complain all you want about gen speed but Mori and hook camping just ruins the game. Because, to be honest if I get hooked which is inevitably going to happen, are you really saying I deserve to be taken out of the game for getting caught a second time when the killers just tunneling the ######### outta me? 😂 nah I’d rather DC. It can be a lot of work on survivor side too if your gen pressuring like you’re supposed to. To the killers: just get your chases, down who you can and if people get away, then so be it. I mean, you’re given a lot to get your 1-2 maybe 3/4 kills every game. And you can’t tell me you’re not finding anyone before 5 gens pop because that’s a lie. You literally have to be blind for that to happen. So ... what’s the deal? If it were easy to 4K every game you think you’d find any survivors to play against? Nah. Perks are very situational on the survivor side of things so I really don’t see why complaints should arise. Flashlight might be a little OP but so is Mori. Nothings more deflating than being that guy that runs the killer until he gets caught, then camped on and Mori’d right after. It’s just dumb man like killers for sure need to stop complaining 😂 they’re given so many tools to just lay people the hell out. A lot of times I don’t even want to go on a chase because I just feel like I won’t get to play again if he gets me.

another salty, even toxic killer main comment. people like you are why this forum is so biased and very unwelcoming towards people with different opinions.

Finally, a post that makes sense.

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In all seriousness, both sides are entitled.

Also, what perks are bs?

Right. Because every survivor also plays killer? Like 90% of the jUsT pReSsUrE gEnS memelords haven't played a killer match outside of brown ranks. But they love to discuss killer balance as if they're 4 thousand hour Trapper mains.

Acting like BT/DS are "only strong because of killers camping" is a false argument. BT and DS are strong because they're strong. DS is 60 seconds of invincibility (don't even get me started on EGC), and BT rewards bad unhooks instead of punishing campers. Why won't survivors ever admit that their second life perks bave gotten ridiculous? Oh, right. Because that would be admitting that something in the game isn't the fault of that magical demigod Bubba that simultaneously facecamps every precious little cinnamon bun survivor every game.

I agree with the OP. A major reason so many survivors use DS and BT is because of the fact that so many killers tunnel/camp. And while it is a valid strategy, it's also pretty cheap in certain situations (eg. doing it with 5 gens left). Survivors have no counter to these tactics EXCEPT DS and BT, or playing in a 4 man SWF. Hell, a lot of the time my friends or I use these perks it goes something like this "last 5 games we got campy/tunnely killers so I'm going to put on BT/DS". That's the conversation.

And I play killer at rank 1. I won't sit here and lie, saying I never camp or tunnel. I do, but often only out of necessity. I'm pressured to do it, but I'm not going to get mad at survivors using BT/DS to counter me camping/tunneling either. I don't get mad at much of anything survivors do, I only get upset with things they say after the game. During the game anything goes that isn't abusing a bug. Really the only thing survivors can DO during the game that pisses me off is sandbag other survivors (like going out of their way to troll others, not running me to them if they are being chased once or twice). Or when survivors DC, that's annoying too. Both cases are survivors screwing over other survivors. I don't appreciate that in my games. But beyond those 2 things, anything goes and I'm not going to get upset at survivors for trying to counter whatever I am doing. I won't lie, it is a bit frustrating to deal with, but at the same time I'm not getting mad at the survivors or the game for letting them do that. Just like I don't get mad at killers anymore that camp/tunnel because I know that's just part of the game. And really I only get upset with killers that camp/tunnel out of spite for a survivor. That's scummy, because you're not playing tactically anymore you are playing to troll/harass another player. Even then I don't get so upset I come to the forums to ######### about it either.

This too. DS and BT have counters. Killers can sit here and say they don't until they are blue in the face, but they have counters. Either don't tunnel or slug for DS. If they jump into a locker leave them. If they do a gen or make a rescue in your face THEY ARE BAITING A GRAB. Don't grab them, just hit them down. Not hard at all. BT has counters too. Anything that gives you Undetectable fully hard counters BT. And then you can just not go for the injured survivor, go for the rescuer instead. If you get a hit on the rescuer before or as they make the rescue, that's a free hook right there. Sometimes I will hit the rescued survivor just to force them to waste time Mending. There are so many ways around these perks it's not even funny. Just don't play like a bot and fall for the traps.

And yes it sucks when they have these perks at end game with the gates open, there is little you can do about it. But truthfully, at this point, you lost anyway. Just suck it up and take the L. Plus if you are smart you can still beat these perks given the circumstances. Like if the gates are open and you down someone, hook them as far from the gates as you can. Or maybe try to force out a survivor before you take the hook. Or use Blood Warden and catch them at the gate when they think they are safe.

Also you can counter Unbreakable by using Thana and/or Knockout. Thana punishes everyone while the guy is slugged and they will more likely come to help him up, which means less survivors on gens, or the guy may burn his Unbreakable to get up faster and then heal to get rid of Thana. Knockout forces them to burn Unbreakable since other's can't find them to get them up. So the first time you slug them they use it, now you are good to slug them as much as you want. Also another way to avoid Unbreakable is to stop trying to go for 4 man slugs. Yes, sometimes you have to, but a lot of killers will go so far out of their way to slug everyone for a W because it's super easy to win that way. Otz recently had a Bubba speed limiter video where he had 1 hooked, 1 slugged, and 2 injured. He went for Nancy and slugged her to go for the 4k. Nancy had Unbreakable. He was in a position where could have EASILY picked up and hooked Nancy before the Nea or Feng (I forget) would have been able to come back and rescue either the Dwight or the Ash. If he did that he woulda won the game at 4 gens, a whole 5 or 6 minutes sooner. He got greedy and was punished for it by Unbreakable. Just don't be greedy is all. If you have some survivors slugged, take a hook instead of trying to hunt down the last guy. Ardetha had a similar video as Nurse where he tried to do this too and it failed. Again, GREEDY.