NOED shouldn’t reward the killer for doing poorly

Yes, actually I would. I've suggested in the past it should be on a timer. Each hook would earn a stack. Each stack would add to the timer. You'd then have a perk that helps the killer in the end game that rewards them for playing well. The better they play, the more powerful it becomes. It has the added benefit of being no longer in the survivors hands.

Why should killers be the only side punished for 'playing bad' which is usually out of control to them in the first place.

Survivors can play as bad as they like and will always have a decent chance of survival or contributing to the team in some way. Don't take the only thing killers have to play cheaply away.

Time and time again when I see these kind of posts of people whining about NOED, you're not doing the other objective which is cleansing totems. Cleansing totems is an easy 1000 points and 1500 points for hex totems. Why is this hard for survivors to comprehend? There is usually a set pattern for the totems. Make note of their locations every time you play. Yeah it's randomized but it's a good to take mental notes on where they are.

NOED is not rewarding killers who fail. NOED makes endgame a lot more tense to where survivors actually have to fear for their lives. It makes the game more interesting. Survivors who complain about NOED are usually the ones that hide and hold M1 the entire game. What's the point in playing this game if you're going to do the same thing over and over again? Whenever I play survivor, I cleanse totems and hey if I managed to miss one and it activates as NOED, then game on. It's a fun and thrilling challenge to try and find the totem.

Seriously, to any survivors that read this, suck it up and do totems instead of holding M1 on generators all the time. I really am tired of people still whining about NOED. DO BONES NEXT TIME.

okay but to be fair almost every survivor meta perk rewards failure

dead hard? you made a mistake, but its corrected by this perk

sprint burst? your caught out of position but can quickly get to a loop

unbreakable? you got downed and slugged (still think its a fine perk, but it does reward failure)

i use totem hunting builds all the time. But its mostly just for the meme. Detectives hunch, inner strength, and small game

I love these kinds of posts, they always make me laugh/cringe since the OP's usually don't understand the fundamental flaw in their logic:

"NOED doesn't reward killers for playing poorly, it rewards killers for survivors laziness."

There are 5 totems in each map, and each totem takes 12 seconds to cleanse making the total cleansing time for 1 survivor 60 seconds of the match. What's more, the totems reward 1k-1.5k in BP for cleansing, the majority of maps make their whereabouts easy to spot, survivors have multiple perks and tools that will reveal totem locations/incentivize them to cleanse totems, and there are 4 survivors that can cleanse a totem at any given time making the hunt for totems much less time consuming than the max possible 60 seconds.

So with all of this working against NOED, why does it ever get a chance to activate in so many games that survivor mains come to the forums almost daily to blast the devs with complaints about it?

Answer: Survivors are too lazy to be bothered with "Doing Bones."

They'd rather focus on the core objective instead of taking a few seconds off of it to prevent a killers perk that has the potential to wipe them all out in the last 2 minutes of the game. It's so easy to prevent, and yet its still public enemy No.1 to all survivors because of how effective it is when it gets to activate, and in truth, they only have themselves to blame. The average Trial last for 10 mins, and they can't afford to spend 12-24 seconds each to ensure a stronger chance of winning? I'm not really sorry to say this but, survivors... you reap what you sow.

Please stop coming to the forums all butt-hurt and demanding nerfs because you and your team were just too damn lazy.

If the killer gets 4 men with noed the whole team ######### up i will leave when i see noed if the killer slugs for 4k

I do it in high ranks using Detective's Hunch/Inner Strength.

@not_Queen you should ask yourself what kind of players most commonly use NOED. Answer is, the players that have zero pressure in the game. They don't go into it with a great endgame strategy; they openly ignore generators; they pray NOED is still up by the end because otherwise it would mean actually learning how to play the game. And because of the current killer ranking system, these boosted individuals somehow make it up to Purple, sometimes even Red. Now, is that what you want from your game? To be in a position where ranks are thrown out of whack because of outliers and in a situation where people have very boring, uninteractive matches vs low skill players who don't belong higher than Brown/Yellow. These gamers don't care about the fact they're playing with 3 perks until endgame, since, these gamers have zero strategy going into the match. I posted an idea into making NOED have a token system that gains per hook, up to 4 tokens for activation at endgame. That way NOED gamers have to learn how to win chases and have pressure in the game. It's simple really. Because, all that reads from your response is that you're happy with the affect NOED has on the game as a whole, since you openly stated a killer who struggles to get hooks is hoping for an endgame boost - so you just backed this point up without even realising it. I hope the Devs see how stupid NOED is in the game as it is currently.

I used Detectives the first time last month. That is pretty cool. There is something to be said about using the latest perk set.

Why do you have a problem with noed which is easily turned off but not all of the second chance perks of survivors. A lot of time ds still goes off even after you have hooked someone else. At least noed can be played around.

These kinds of claims can be made in favor of NOED too. NOED counters Survivors unga bunga'ing through gens and not bothering to do totems.

So when i get 4k before Noed is activate i'm a monster at this game right? I played a game with only 3 perks all time and rekt survivors, so i'm a champ i guess?

What about Noed activate when you already get 2k and using it for a final push like Adrenaline for secure the escape at the end of the game?

Or what about an End Game Build like Noed, Bloodwarden, Rancor and Remember me? Streamers like Monto and other guys rekt people even before the last gen is done, with a pure End Game Build. So killer can win with it even without using it

Noed Reward bad or trash killer if is the only and main reason for his 1 kill at the end of the game. Imho this specific situation is so dumb and unfair because the killer played like a trash with 0 hooks and can get potentially 1k doing litteraly nothing.

But what about a killer who use it in a specific build playing for winning even before Noed comes to play? They are not trash, they have a specif plan. In exchange of a weaker early game they get a potentially massive end game

But i guess Noed is trash and unfair anyway, all the time, for you right?

Personally i use Noed only if i want to play an End Game Build. I don't like Noed alone but i don't complain as a survivor about it. Only if the killer played so poorly all game with 0, maybe 1 hook? Lol

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No no

Noed rewards Killers for playing 3 Perks the whole game.