Do they deliberately make it difficult to see a key coming in ?

I don't have to be sold on the mori (offering) are bs. I'm coming from the view as killer who doesn't use mori as such the whole yeah but what about mori for killer as a counter to keys doesn't do anything for me here.

If i'm survivor and some one does the mori (offering) thing, I don't consider it a game, my attitude is fine take the kills have all the kills if you really want, lets just do this quickly so we can move on. I mean I could do something similar as killer where I don't see the "invisible" key at the lobby but then see it in game that doesn't involve the d/c.

Well that's if I can bother with another survivor que ? but who got time for that, where did all the killers go anyway. No where apparently, everything is fine, or as so I've been told.

Excuse me ? You were clearly disputing my whole killers are walking away, and you were like, nah YOU are walking away blah blah blah. Then I referenced that whole survivor wait times vs killer time thing.

So no you don't get to make up revisionist history of what did or did not take place.

Did i mention that what is going to be left as reasonable killers leave is longer wait times to get a camping LF/hard tunnel mori killers cause everyone else has fracked off ?

But, but, YOU are ruining the game.

Kinda hard to ruin it ( at least on the killer side) when you play less and less till the point you hardly play at all.

Still having trouble figuring it out me thinks.

If the key is as easy to see as other items then I would not d/c, since I would dodge it in the first place. Kinda feel people who complain about the d/c on key miss that. it's all about d/c, d/c OMG the d/c. And for the sake of accuracy the d/c comes at the start of the game, when you first see the key in game, NOT mid game.

I think I can speak for other killers/former killers out there when I say with all the added bs a "reasonable" killer has to put up with, i'm not going to get f*cked over by a key, an invisible key I can't sometimes see in the lobby, something which has happens alot more lately I assume because of the key challenges.

Insult me all fooking day if you want, say nasty things, claim i'm ruining the game and what ever else you got.

That's a line for me to walk away from killer, and Ill bet i'm not the only one.

If every survivor had your attitude, you wouldn't have to worry about killers "ruining the game" cause there wouldn't be anyway.

Reasonable people walk away when things become unreasonable, so guess who is left when the reasonable killers go away ?

Still having trouble figuring it out ?

I'm gonna take a guess what is going in your head right now................. D/C, D/C,D/C, D/C

All your actions show me your that kind of survivor who is part of the problem that pushes people away from the killer side.

Your tiny mind thinks as such, killer d/c's unseen key, insult, insult, I win, good he don't play killer "time" will be saved.

BIG PICTURE, reasonable killers walk away, can't make the cost/benefit side of playing killer work and your overall waiting time increases and you get an increase in probability of bad games, eg Facing camping LF/Ebony Mori tunnel, because why bother playing reasonable if your just going to get ######### on ? Killers walk, yes even if you keep insulting them, even if you tell them, hey just play under these conditions, do it, I demand it, they still walk, and that is what makes your position self defeating, as the consequences of this mentality come to fruition and there you are wasting so much "time" on the survivor side.

Yeah but...................THE D/C !!!

Good luck, I just get the feeling your gonna need it.

That's the toxic survivor mentality right there, hey killer your gonna play regardless of conditions, your gonna play by the survivor rule book, and your gonna let yourself get screwed over by keys.

You expect people to continue a bad deal, utterly self defeating position.

A leads to B Leads to C.........I won't explain this again to you.

Your not arguing with me, your arguing against human nature/self interest, like I said good luck.

I just get the feeling your own stupidity blinds you. But hey, lots of stupid in the world.

Yeah nice strawman on that whole ego thing, tough guy takes down strawman of their own making, declares themself winner.

And yet the killers still walk away...

But it's YOU that is ruining the game

I'm done with the stupid.

I've always said moris are bs, I don't use them (except for a meme or something between known people). I've never seen a mori offering game as an actual game of dbd game, I see it more like a game of chess where some person just slams the chess board on the ground and screams dominos ######### and declares themself the winner. In both situations I'd just like to get it over and done quickly and move on, and even better to be avoided all together if possible, like keys...

So the mori thing when i'm playing killer isn't part of my equation since I don't use it and expanding on your own reasoning, if i don't use moris why do I have to deal with keys ? Am I going to take action to avoid that bs if possible ? Your God damm right I am.

Keys and Moris are the low hanging fruit that can easily be dealt with, as I see these things bringing more pain than joy and can just either get deleted or reworked.

The reason we should be more focused on the killer side of things isn't because the survivor side is nothing but puppies and rainbows, but rather that the killer side of things is worse.......much worse. The whole survivor wait times and who they eventually get matched with is a testament to that.