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What's up with all these sweaty killers at rank 15?
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?
So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
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Once you go past rank the lower ranks (20 - 16) you'll start facing players that actually know how to play the game.
Good luck
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@Mc_Harty said:
Once you go past rank the lower ranks (20 - 16) you'll start facing players that actually know how to play the game.Good luck
Yea I understand there's a new bracket we are placed into, but the set up a lot of people are using is something I'd use on a higher ranked SWF group, not a bunch of level 15 scrubs.
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@iceman2kx said:
Yea I understand there's a new bracket we are placed into, but the set up a lot of people are using is something I'd use on a higher ranked SWF group, not a bunch of level 15 scrubs.
Problem is both survivors (with and without SWF) and killers purposefully de-rank so they can find faster and easier lobbies.
It sucks but what can you do?
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Such stupid terms we throw around like "Sweaty" or "Try Hard"
Why should you expect people to not throw everything they have at you? Why let it get to you? Is this not a PvP game?
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@FrenziedRoach said:
Such stupid terms we throw around like "Sweaty" or "Try Hard"Why should you expect people to not throw everything they have at you? Why let it get to you? Is this not a PvP game?
Yea, well it's a legitimate slang in this game created by the community, so get used to it. Also, because you're playing level 15s with little to no perks? That's like the equivalent of me taking my high level character in WoW and wrecking new chars in starting zones. If you enjoy that type of game play, you're probably the type of person whose never participated in competitive PvP.
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People play the way they want to play.
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@SpaceCoconut said:
People play the way they want to play.Suck it up.
Yea, okay thanks for pointing out the obvious. I'm just letting you know killer to killer, I think you're lame.
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@iceman2kx said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
Such stupid terms we throw around like "Sweaty" or "Try Hard"Why should you expect people to not throw everything they have at you? Why let it get to you? Is this not a PvP game?
Yea, well it's a legitimate slang in this game created by the community, so get used to it. Also, because you're playing level 15s with little to no perks? That's like the equivalent of me taking my high level character in WoW and wrecking new chars in starting zones. If you enjoy that type of game play, you're probably the type of person whose never participated in competitive PvP.
Um... I've actually done time in Eve Zero Sec. Don't be acting like I don't know what it's like to be smashed in PvP.
And new's flash - little or no perks means nothing when a game has a prestige system.
Either you got the stones to handle having a disadvantage from time to time, or you don't. But you should always expect your opponent to give use every advantage they have regardless of the situation. A few scrubs whining with their prissy little honor codes and trying to leverage social pressure with their cute little terms about being "Sweaty" or "Try Hards" won't change that.
Instead of pointing your ire at people who game as the game allows them to, you should point your ire to the gamemasters who write the rules. (That's what a reasonable adult would do, anyway)
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@iceman2kx said:
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
This game has been balanced around the low ranks. You cant blame killers for dereanking in order to play a balanced game, I do this too now (even though I dont derank that far).
Its simply not fun versing optimal survivors, especially in SWF, so I simply avoid that now until the devs balance the game around that (assuming that will ever happen....)
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It's either trash killers who can't keep up with their real rank or cheaters who modified their save file
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first of all the match making in this game is mostly trash so a rank 15 killer can get paired against people above rank 10 and above rank 5, so why on earth would a killer not queue his best potential build
second "the killer tried to win, then they deserve me and the other 3 members on my team acting like scum bags" i'm disappointed in sharing any community with people like you
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@Master said:
@iceman2kx said:
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
This game has been balanced around the low ranks. You cant blame killers for dereanking in order to play a balanced game, I do this too now (even though I dont derank that far).
Its simply not fun versing optimal survivors, especially in SWF, so I simply avoid that now until the devs balance the game around that (assuming that will ever happen....)
So you admit to DC to make people waste their time, just great!
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I applaud you. At least SOMEBODY gets it.holywhitetrash said:first of all the match making in this game is mostly trash so a rank 15 killer can get paired against people above rank 10 and above rank 5, so why on earth would a killer queue his best potential build
second "the killer tried to win, then they deserve me and the other 3 members on my team acting like scum bags" i'm disappointed in sharing any community with people like you
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@iceman2kx said:
@SpaceCoconut said:
People play the way they want to play.Suck it up.
Yea, okay thanks for pointing out the obvious. I'm just letting you know killer to killer, I think you're lame.
You can't tell killers how to play and not use addons until a certain rank. I thought killers were suppose to kill sruvviors, not let them out of the exit gates..
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What about people deranking to 20 running 4man DS/SC/BT/SB with 2 instaheals and 2 BNPs (pre nerf).
Killers run into that at all ranks tbh, either by using the rank 20 glitch (cant wait for that fix, and no I will not elaborate on how to do this), or by including 1 low rank in their swf group. Of course killers want to be prepared.
There have been so many times I've been playing PS4 for months so my rank on PC sucks and I figure I'll just play fun builds instead of tryhard only to get matched with that. So yeah, I'll switch my build out to something more optimized to win against what I keep getting.
All perks are in the game for a reason, so I won't complain about what they run, instead I adapt and rank up so I don't accidentally noobstomp (and to be fair if its obvious they're new I won't play super hard against them and let them have some fun).
It's just not a 1 sided issue. Both sides play to win. Both sides have their tryhard builds that you will come across at any rank. Until a better ranking system/leaderboard/matchmaking based on hours or player level come into place, it's just going to happen.3 -
@FrenziedRoach said:
Such stupid terms we throw around like "Sweaty" or "Try Hard"Why should you expect people to not throw everything they have at you? Why let it get to you? Is this not a PvP game?
Hear ye! Hear ye! The killers are actually killing people, run for your lives!
Look, folks, a "Tryhard" is just someone playing the game. When I play survivor I work on generators as quickly as I can to decrease the risk of my allies or myself being sacrificed. Yet people brand me a "Tryhard Gen Rusher" for, doing the objective? If a killer does their best to kill everyone, they're doing their job. Yet we feel the need to berate them at every turn.
Are you defending your hooks? "Camper!"
Did you punish bad hook saves or exploit weaknesses? "Tunneller!"
This person's case is especially entertaining as his point should actually make you feel better. ", Why should you expect people to not throw everything they have at you? Why let it get to you? Is this not a PvP game?" If @FrenziedRoach is actually doing their best to win guess what? Assuming that they are a competent player they'll definitely pip, maybe even double pip and leave rank 15 and be out of your hair. So what are you upset about, really?
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@Zanfer said:
@Master said:
@iceman2kx said:
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
This game has been balanced around the low ranks. You cant blame killers for dereanking in order to play a balanced game, I do this too now (even though I dont derank that far).
Its simply not fun versing optimal survivors, especially in SWF, so I simply avoid that now until the devs balance the game around that (assuming that will ever happen....)
So you admit to DC to make people waste their time, just great!
I dont DC to derank
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You're calling the killers sweaty and yet you're the one who's fuming and complaining about rank 15 games on the forums. Irony is ironic.
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
You're calling the killers sweaty and yet you're the one who's fuming and complaining about rank 15 games on the forums. Irony is ironic.Wait, so you're pointing out that I am complaining after I already pointed out I was complaining? User name fits.
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@Peasant said:
Why let it get to you? So what are you upset about, really?
Mainly because I don't find pleasure in destroying low ranked/low skilled players so naturally I hold other players to that same standard. Does it upset me? No, it's more of "for real bro?" reaction. It's kind of funny to me so many people in this thread are defending this type of trolly playstyle. To me, that just shows how hypocritical people can be. If a well known streamer/YouTuber does it, they are completely lame/wrong, but if regular players do it then it's, "oh, well why shouldn't we use everything we have in our arsenal against a bunch of scrubs", "people will play how they want to play so it's acceptable" or "it's a pvp game git gud."
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What is this new "sweaty" thing? Is this the new term Ochido uses instead of baby killer?
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@iceman2kx said:
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
I you are in 10-15 level bracket you shouldn't be new. As for the items it's a part of the game. People use whatever they wanna use and how they see fit that's why they give it to you in bloodweb. I always see survivors with toolboxes and medkits. So whats wrong with using items or addons? You play how you want.
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@HellDescent That's just not true and I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree. I have 0 survivor experience and was able to get down to level 15 in less than half a day. Then, I still have to grind out every teachable and unlock them in a bloodweb somewhere. So does every other new player.
The subject that I've brought up multiple times in this thread is killers running crazy add ons and offerings along with optimal FOTM perks from other killers to straight slaughter these teams of new players. Are they wrong? Absolutely not. They are utilizing mechanics and abusing a terrible ranking system implemented in this game. However, I'll stand by what I say 100%, if you're the killer run ultra rare/ebonys against these types of teams, you're lame. Also keep in mind, this isn't like a "once in a while" thing, this happens pretty frequent. So, yes, it does get old fast.
In my mind set, being at a low bracket, that's where I would try add ons that aren't necessarily useful but fun to run. Or play killers that I'm just bad with.
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@Tsulan said:
What is this new "sweaty" thing? Is this the new term Ochido uses instead of baby killer?Although this is a rhetorical question, I'm gonna go ahead and entertain you because you and along with a bunch of other people in the DBD community have a fad where you pretend to not know what a elementary gaming definition is. A quick google search you'll find an urban dictionary definition of it:
"Sweaty Tryhard:
A gamer who takes video games way too seriously, as if $1 million are on the line. The term comes from how some gamers get so intense while playing, that they actually start sweating. They are often found in MOBAs like League of Legends and DOTA, but can also be found in various first person shooters.
If you make even one mistake while playing, a sweaty tryhard will yell at you and call you a *** for it. Instead of trying to help their teammates and give them tips on getting better, they will just insult their teammates for making mistakes. If the sweaty tryhard's team loses, they will blame their teammates 99% of the time, rather than looking at themselves to see what they could have done better.
Sweaty tryhards act like they are pro gamers and feel like they must win every single game, instead of just enjoying the game and not worrying about winning or losing, especially if they are playing by themselves and not with an organized team."
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@iceman2kx said:
@HellDescent That's just not true and I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree. I have 0 survivor experience and was able to get down to level 15 in less than half a day. Then, I still have to grind out every teachable and unlock them in a bloodweb somewhere. So does every other new player.The subject that I've brought up multiple times in this thread is killers running crazy add ons and offerings along with optimal FOTM perks from other killers to straight slaughter these teams of new players. Are they wrong? Absolutely not. They are utilizing mechanics and abusing a terrible ranking system implemented in this game. However, I'll stand by what I say 100%, if you're the killer run ultra rare/ebonys against these types of teams, you're lame. Also keep in mind, this isn't like a "once in a while" thing, this happens pretty frequent. So, yes, it does get old fast.
In my mind set, being at a low bracket, that's where I would try add ons that aren't necessarily useful but fun to run. Or play killers that I'm just bad with.
You can run ebony addons and rare items at any level. The whole point of addons/items is to give you an edge over survivors/killers in order to rank up. Even though since I stared playing the game I've only used them 5-10 times and saving any item I've escaped with. Just so that I always will have something to use at higher levels later(probably because I'm too cheap like that). But the games constantly gives you something every level and they are unlimited, so why not use them.?
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@iceman2kx said:
@Tsulan said:
What is this new "sweaty" thing? Is this the new term Ochido uses instead of baby killer?Although this is a rhetorical question, I'm gonna go ahead and entertain you because you and along with a bunch of other people in the DBD community have a fad where you pretend to not know what a elementary gaming definition is. A quick google search you'll find an urban dictionary definition of it:
"Sweaty Tryhard:
A gamer who takes video games way too seriously, as if $1 million are on the line. The term comes from how some gamers get so intense while playing, that they actually start sweating. They are often found in MOBAs like League of Legends and DOTA, but can also be found in various first person shooters.
If you make even one mistake while playing, a sweaty tryhard will yell at you and call you a *** for it. Instead of trying to help their teammates and give them tips on getting better, they will just insult their teammates for making mistakes. If the sweaty tryhard's team loses, they will blame their teammates 99% of the time, rather than looking at themselves to see what they could have done better.
Sweaty tryhards act like they are pro gamers and feel like they must win every single game, instead of just enjoying the game and not worrying about winning or losing, especially if they are playing by themselves and not with an organized team."
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sweaty TryhardAhh thank you for clarifying this.
It´s really the first time i hear this term.
But i don´t look at the urbandictionary since i once found the definition of tunneld to be very disturbing.1 -
Unless the survivors you are playing are in a SWF group or being carried by high ranked survivors, running top tier add ons is just redundant. Even below average killers can 4k all day at low ranks. I'm gonna link a picture and you tell me that you honestly feel this should be socially acceptable. Keep in mind, this isn't a one time thing, this happens often,
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@iceman2kx said:
@HellDescentUnless the survivors you are playing are in a SWF group or being carried by high ranked survivors, running top tier add ons is just redundant. Even below average killers can 4k all day at low ranks. I'm gonna link a picture and you tell me that you honestly feel this should be socially acceptable. Keep in mind, this isn't a one time thing, this happens often,
I don't see a single thing wrong with this picture. If the killer will continue to play this way he' won't be in low level bracket much longer and will face more experienced survivors. while survivors will respectfully derank, making it a little easier for them. That's how the balance is maintained. Plus there is a rank reset every month.(some people might not touch the game for weeks) I only have Leatherface, Claudette and Nea leveled up the rest are lvl 1-15. So a lot of times I go up against lvl 9-11 with one crappy perk. It doesn't matter what you rank is. It all depends what you decide get from bloodweb and when to use it. You can play with 1 character but spend bp on someone else. I'm not even gonna mention gen rush with 4-man toolbox squad.
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@iceman2kx said:
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
If someone wants to get to rank 1 it wouldn't make sense to go easy in the lower ranks, after all the point is to climb out low/mid ranks for them. I personally don't care for rank and frankly hate how long it takes to get matches at rank 1 on console but I won't judge people for playing the game how they want. Unless you DC then and only then will I judge you.
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@iceman2kx said:
@HellDescentUnless the survivors you are playing are in a SWF group or being carried by high ranked survivors, running top tier add ons is just redundant. Even below average killers can 4k all day at low ranks. I'm gonna link a picture and you tell me that you honestly feel this should be socially acceptable. Keep in mind, this isn't a one time thing, this happens often,
Maybe he/she felt like using the add-ons to have fun. You know killers using these add-ons don't always means sweaty try hard/must 4k. I've used add-ons like this not in high rank games simply to have some laid back fun. I've also used scratched mirror during a few rank 1 games simply for fun even though I know a 4k is unlikely. You can't hate on survivors for bringing in BNP or killers bringing good add-ons, some people just want to use the items they got.
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@iceman2kx said:
@HellDescent That's just not true and I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree. I have 0 survivor experience and was able to get down to level 15 in less than half a day. Then, I still have to grind out every teachable and unlock them in a bloodweb somewhere. So does every other new player.The subject that I've brought up multiple times in this thread is killers running crazy add ons and offerings along with optimal FOTM perks from other killers to straight slaughter these teams of new players. Are they wrong? Absolutely not. They are utilizing mechanics and abusing a terrible ranking system implemented in this game. However, I'll stand by what I say 100%, if you're the killer run ultra rare/ebonys against these types of teams, you're lame. Also keep in mind, this isn't like a "once in a while" thing, this happens pretty frequent. So, yes, it does get old fast.
In my mind set, being at a low bracket, that's where I would try add ons that aren't necessarily useful but fun to run. Or play killers that I'm just bad with.
If they want to climb the ranks quickly it would make sense to use optimal add-ons/perks. You are not forced to or lame for using these items on low/mid ranks. Why do you think people use "rush" decks in card games? It was the fastest way to finish matches (be they win or lose) so you could speed up the rank climb.
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This is a troll post, there's no way he's a killer main complaining about killers running perks in any ranks when survivors can be rank 1 and 2 and show up against a rank 15 killer. So by all means, a killer should never be running weak anything just for the sake of "rank", because as a killer you can go up against teams of ANY RANK. There's no way this ice guy is serious.
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@iceman2kx said:
Before anyone jumps on me for the title, I'm a killer main myself and this is pretty much a QQ post. I've just recently gotten into survivor with probably <5 hours played as survivor. Even though I know a little bit about the mechanics and game play, I still SUCK and get owned often. I'm terrible at looping and skill checks and I often get caught. Shouldn't that be the norm for rank 15 players though?So my question is, why are there killers at 13/14/15 running these super sweaty builds to straight murder these new survivors? At this level, my teammates (myself included) are running lame perks or no perks due to character level. I'm running into killers often with fotm builds (ruin/bbq etc) running ebony moris and ultra rare addons. What gives dudes? As a killer main myself, I find this pretty gross and dishonorable behavior. I don't even start running addons until blue ranks, even then I'll seldom do it.
For so long, I've always wondered why survivors were so toxic at the end of rounds with salty trolls and tea bagging at the gate. Now, I don't even blame them.
tl;dr: I'm disappointed in the community I belong to.
A competitive pvp game, and the other side does their best to complete their objective?
absolute madlad I say, ban 'em now.
/sYeah uh, it's the same on the survivor side, I face people that like me try to win as much as possible, and I don't get mad at them because I try just as hard.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
This is a troll post, there's no way he's a killer main complaining about killers running perks in any ranks when survivors can be rank 1 and 2 and show up against a rank 15 killer. So by all means, a killer should never be running weak anything just for the sake of "rank", because as a killer you can go up against teams of ANY RANK. There's no way this ice guy is serious.
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I guess the OP is trolling yes. I cant push rank 12 with my killer because i accept anyone who enters the lobby.
Even when i bump on high ranked SWFs, fully perked (flashligh squad OMG) and having > 1000 hours on their clock when i check their Steam profiles.
But slowly i get better. A while back i couldnt push beyond rank 15.
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@Mc_Harty said:
Once you go past rank the lower ranks (20 - 16) you'll start facing players that actually know how to play the game.Good luck
What he's meaning to say, if there's anyone above these ranks they were unsuccessful at depipping and wound up at rank 15. It's probably the only way to have 'fun' as a killer since you get the worst survivors and end up with everyone dying in 4 minutes playing as freddy or wraith.
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@Tsulan said:
What is this new "sweaty" thing? Is this the new term Ochido uses instead of baby killer?Nah, it's used in a lot of games. I know it's been commonly used in Destiny for years. It's usually not a derogatory thing. It's kind of the same thing as "tryhard" in that it means "overly competitive", but a lot of the time it's used to describe matches as well.
In the Destiny Crucible (PVP arenas for those who don't play), you'll hear of "sweaty teams" which are usually all friends who play together regularly, as compared to teams with randoms (which are known as blueberries in Destiny). When two teams like this would play against each other, it was known by everyone as a sweaty match. Even the teams would call it that.
You could call 4-man SWF death squads sweaty teams. Players like Tru3, Marth88, Tyde, they would all be considered sweaty players. Like I said, it was never considered to be a derogatory term.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
This is a troll post, there's no way he's a killer main complaining about killers running perks in any ranks when survivors can be rank 1 and 2 and show up against a rank 15 killer. So by all means, a killer should never be running weak anything just for the sake of "rank", because as a killer you can go up against teams of ANY RANK. There's no way this ice guy is serious.I am a killer main and I'm 100% serious. This is thread dedicated to all the sweaty killers running ridiculous add-ons/offerings and murdering survivors at low ranks because they can't do it at high ranks.
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@Cass said:
I guess the OP is trolling yes. I cant push rank 12 with my killer because i accept anyone who enters the lobby.Even when i bump on high ranked SWFs, fully perked (flashligh squad OMG) and having > 1000 hours on their clock when i check their Steam profiles.
But slowly i get better. A while back i couldnt push beyond rank 15.
I highly recommend checking out popular killer mains stream on Twitch. You can learn a lot just by watching the best play for a few hours. It's also helpful to watch survivors on Twitch because you can learn a lot about the other side. YouTube has plenty of guides as well.
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@iceman2kx said:
@PigMainBigBrain said:
This is a troll post, there's no way he's a killer main complaining about killers running perks in any ranks when survivors can be rank 1 and 2 and show up against a rank 15 killer. So by all means, a killer should never be running weak anything just for the sake of "rank", because as a killer you can go up against teams of ANY RANK. There's no way this ice guy is serious.I am a killer main and I'm 100% serious. This is thread dedicated to all the sweaty killers running ridiculous add-ons/offerings and murdering survivors at low ranks because they can't do it at high ranks.
for a killer main you sound a lot like a survivor getting butthurt over add ons and perks, or one of those people who rages over noED, or one of those survivors who disconnects because "its nurse".
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So, here's a question. What if they made the ranks bracketed like they did with ranks 20-16?
So you could have:
20-16 - Beginner bracket
15-11 - Low rank bracket
10-6 - Mid-rank bracket
5-1 - High-rank bracketThey would need to tighten up the rank reset system to ensure that the high-rank bracket can only reset to say rank 10 (bottom of the mid-rank), mid-ranks would reset to 15 at the most, and low-ranks would reset to the beginner ranks, and then everyone would climb back up from there.
If the issue actually is needing to derank to find matches faster, this would help alleviate that, as the other side (killer/survivor) would not be able to derank either.
Personally, I find the "faster matchmaking" excuse to be just that. No matter how you try to frame it, it looks to everybody else that you're looking for easier matches.
I am not accusing anyone of doing that, but you do need to understand how players are going to perceive these things, and how it's going to lead them to form bad practices in the game as well.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
@iceman2kx said:
@PigMainBigBrain said:
This is a troll post, there's no way he's a killer main complaining about killers running perks in any ranks when survivors can be rank 1 and 2 and show up against a rank 15 killer. So by all means, a killer should never be running weak anything just for the sake of "rank", because as a killer you can go up against teams of ANY RANK. There's no way this ice guy is serious.I am a killer main and I'm 100% serious. This is thread dedicated to all the sweaty killers running ridiculous add-ons/offerings and murdering survivors at low ranks because they can't do it at high ranks.
for a killer main you sound a lot like a survivor getting butthurt over add ons and perks, or one of those people who rages over noED, or one of those survivors who disconnects because "its nurse".
I see you under that mask Dwight!I play both sides and they do have a point since if you're that decked out you shouldn't be intentionally depipping into the 15'-20 range. I mean everyone wants an easier game but slaughtering brand new players just because you can't handle an actual challenge is childish.
Also no I'm not talking about ranks 1-5 since we all know how rough that is for killers but I've seen people I know have been rank 1 intentionally depip into the 15-20 range. They simply afk someplace or wait till 1 gens done tehn dc for a double depip.
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@245_Trioxin said:
So, here's a question. What if they made the ranks bracketed like they did with ranks 20-16?So you could have:
20-16 - Beginner bracket
15-11 - Low rank bracket
10-6 - Mid-rank bracket
5-1 - High-rank bracket^^^^^
This is actually a good idea.Good concept, but should be tweaked, no one want to be stuck in the ranks 5-1's hell.
If the game was more balanced that wouldn't cause that much problems tho.
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@Giche said:
@245_Trioxin said:
So, here's a question. What if they made the ranks bracketed like they did with ranks 20-16?So you could have:
20-16 - Beginner bracket
15-11 - Low rank bracket
10-6 - Mid-rank bracket
5-1 - High-rank bracket^^^^^
This is actually a good idea.Good concept, but should be tweaked, no one want to be stuck in the ranks 5-1's hell.
If the game was more balanced that wouldn't cause that much problems tho.
It's a very rough idea, and definitely needs some tweaking, but it could even help in further balancing the game. Honestly, I think some of the issues with balancing things properly across the board, is that it's hard to tell where things actually land, due to people purposely de-pipping, etc. I'm sure it makes it harder to tell where things should be across the ranks.
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Agree but to be fair it's not only that, there's a lot of boosted SWF survivors who normally don't belong in high rank, pip requirement became easier for killer too, so you see some of them ranking up while not killing anyone, only to get ######### on in the purple ranks already, etc...
A LOT of variables.
Also the dev's stats should make the difference between a DC and a death.
Only logical, and would also help to get a better view on what is happening in this game in general.5 -
@Giche said:
@245_TrioxinAgree but to be fair it's not only that, there's a lot of boosted SWF survivors who normally don't belong in high rank, pip requirement became easier for killer too, so you see some of them ranking up while not killing anyone, only to get ######### on in the purple ranks already, etc...
A LOT of variables.
Also the dev's stats should make the difference between a DC and a death.
Only logical, and would also help to get a better view on what is happening in this game in general.Of course, I 100% agree with you on this.
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League has a system that tracks stuff like this and prevent smurfing as well as boosting pretty well. If they could do something like that here that puts people where they actually belong and not allow the rank 1's to depip to rank 20 for cruise control that'd be awesome.
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@powerbats said:
@PigMainBigBrain said:
@iceman2kx said:
@PigMainBigBrain said:
This is a troll post, there's no way he's a killer main complaining about killers running perks in any ranks when survivors can be rank 1 and 2 and show up against a rank 15 killer. So by all means, a killer should never be running weak anything just for the sake of "rank", because as a killer you can go up against teams of ANY RANK. There's no way this ice guy is serious.I am a killer main and I'm 100% serious. This is thread dedicated to all the sweaty killers running ridiculous add-ons/offerings and murdering survivors at low ranks because they can't do it at high ranks.
for a killer main you sound a lot like a survivor getting butthurt over add ons and perks, or one of those people who rages over noED, or one of those survivors who disconnects because "its nurse".
I see you under that mask Dwight!I play both sides and they do have a point since if you're that decked out you shouldn't be intentionally depipping into the 15'-20 range. I mean everyone wants an easier game but slaughtering brand new players just because you can't handle an actual challenge is childish.
Also no I'm not talking about ranks 1-5 since we all know how rough that is for killers but I've seen people I know have been rank 1 intentionally depip into the 15-20 range. They simply afk someplace or wait till 1 gens done tehn dc for a double depip.
You can't depip that low anymore even as a survivor. The funny ######### starts from rank 1 and doesn't stop with match making till about rank 15, and even then you'll still have SWF groups where theres multiple rank 5's vs a rank 15 killer.....speaking from experience. And if you're that decked out, and running those add ons (which in all honesty if you main a killer isn't hard in the slightest, killers get points easy) theres no way you can depip that low without force disconnecting or something stupid. So even if it was someone doing that it'd show up in the GM's logs right? Which is bannable right?
I've tried playing with restraint after a rank reset where I didn't immediately join the race after the reset, and at those ranks, you can sneeze on a survivor and double pip 3 times by accident. Nothing he's saying makes any sense to a killer main....
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