So, can we do something about this?

Another one of these, if they’d do away with ranks completely like they need to there’d be nothing to complain about.

Wow, could you be more of an obvious survivor main with the nonsense pouring out of this response.

So let's break this bullshit down piece by piece.

"Survivors have a right to die on the first hook"

I never said they shouldn't be able to, I said that if they choose to do that, the other two hooks of value should be given to the killer automatically, so they aren't now immediately screwed out of iridescent devout just cause someone either failed to kobe or decided to ragequit.

"I have had only one do it in over 20 matches"

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal, I've had it happen in at least 5 of my matches today out of 15, one time it was directly linked to a safety pip instead of an actual pip. Your experience is not fact, and does nothing for this argument.

"But almost always in matches where this is some serious tunneling or camping going on"

How can someone tunnel or camp ON THE FIRST HOOK . By definition, no one can camp or tunnel you to down you and put you on the hook for the first time. What are you talking about here?

"If the survivor wants out of a match vs. a camper/tunneler, they have every right to die on the first hook"

Refer to above response, you're such an obvious survivor main it's actually painful, to be tunneled, you would have to be downed TWICE at least, herp a derp, and to camp you in my solution would take over 4 mins of the killer sitting there which would be an auto-forfeit for the killer and rightly so. If anything this solution makes camping completely useless.

"If anything, give killers a way to forfeit the game if they have less than 2 hooks and 1 gen left. Boom, slow down the gen rush or risk a very short game with crap bp."

This is so stupid I think you actually gave me a migraine, we are talking about how survivor actions screw a killer out of a rightful pip because they clearly dominated the match and you're talking about a surrender option for killer? Yeah I'll go with stupid statements that have nothing to do with the conversation for 500 Alex.

"Slow down the gen rush"

Seriously you're just spouting cliches at this point. Seek medical attention for that brain injury you have clearly suffered.

Yeah emblems don't really work at high ranks.

The current red rank emblem requirements (or even more demanding ones) would make sense at rank 1 itself, as pipping (the game saying you should be a better rank) at the "best" rank in the game should in my opinion be almost prohibitively difficult, and the ability to "save" pips at rank 1 so you don't instantly go to rank 2 after one depip should come back. To me that sounds like it'd make the act of trying to keep rank 1 a bit more interesting and meaningful. Should be adjusted for both killer and survivor.

But for every red and to some extent purple rank it's not really compatible with the 2k balance goal of the devs at all, unless the match is some sort of clownfest where the killer farms the hell out of Malicious and gets iri Gatekeeper or something.

I'm not going to delve into your post history, it was the language you used that I pointed out, which clearly came from a place of bias. Survivors should have the "right" to kill themselves on first hook and screw the killer, nuff said. You don't look at things from a "balanced perspective" you just claim you do for some kind of nonsensical legitimacy. And again your ignorance is obvious, killer queues are already instant because nobody wants to play killer, particularly at high ranks which is why green killers end up against 4 red rank survivors. Anyone with a brain would know this.

You claim to want a change to help gen speeds on low mobility killers, when in my linked post I specifically address this with changes to gatekeeper, if you had read the post you would have realized this.

And thanks for the passive aggressive ending "you're biased so I'm going home and pretending I won". Bye felicia.

Both sides dictate if the other can pip or not. On the survivor side if you play boosted, don't down anyone and survivors do gens then they can depip even if they escape.

I always say why do people care? There's no reward for ranking up and getting to rank 1 isn't anything special in this game. People who have only been playing this game a month can reach it easily.

So you make a point to respond just to say nothing? Ok then.

This is the same as survivors who just do all gens and have no interaction with killer.

Both sides can't pip from games like these

Unfortunately that's just how Dead by Daylight works. No one pips from quick games where either side pub stomps the other. They want you to have a slightly longer match!

Damn you brought an ebony mori and still didn't get the 4k

Déjà Vu is more useful than a PIP unless you’re doing for an achievement. Just my opinion.

ps. Deja, bond, and better together is almost kind of good on maps like Lery’s and the Game if you solo queue

I think it's silly to focus on something that's borderline meaningless like pips when they don't do anything, when there's actual problems, like Pig being able to essentially be a less efficient "old Legion" (where they used to moonwalk "chase" people and bleed them out) with her helmets and ######### like that. Actual gameplay problems.