We have temporarily disabled The Houndmaster (Bone Chill Event queue) and Baermar Uraz's Ugly Sweater Cosmetic (all queues) due to issues affecting gameplay.

Visit the Kill Switch Master List for more information on these and other current known issues: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/299-kill-switch-master-list
The Dead by Daylight team would like your feedback in a Player Satisfaction survey.

We encourage you to be as honest as possible in letting us know how you feel about the game. The information and answers provided are anonymous, not shared with any third-party, and will not be used for purposes other than survey analysis.

Access the survey HERE!

I'm tired of feeling powerless as a killer

This game is in need of a total balance shift. As a red rank killer, I can get a 4k in one match and 0k in the next. One decent chase from a survivor is game ending for the killer. 3 gens can be done in the first 4 minutes, even with 'adequate pressure'. Some of your perks can actually be destroyed permanently by survivors (hex perks), and others can be negated altogether (ex: can't use Pop because a gen gets done before you can get to it). Entire killer abilities can be negated (disarming Trapper traps, can't throw hatchets over a loop with Huntress, etc). Amazing survivor perks compared generally mediocre killer perks (compare Any Means Necessary to Blood Echo). It all goes to prove that survivors are the power role, always have been and sadly always will be.

Skill alone will not allow you to win as killer. You have to pick a strong killer (unlike Clown or Oni), have sub-optimal survivors, have a good build, have a decent map (because there are no killer sided ones), have good add-ons, play around DS, BT, and DH.

If you're facing SWF, you lose unless they throw the game. If you don't beat a survivor to the hatch, free escape for them, no well-deserved 4k for you. If you make 1 mistake, you lose. If a survivor makes several mistakes, they're fine or better yet, rewarded.

The psychological effect of these survivor bully psychopaths is the biggest turn off for this game, and it is quite possible the worst in the industry. You're always being mocked and belittled by entitled survivors saying that you need to get better, even when you played your heart out and were practically flawless. And to still get a 0-2k after everything you did and be spat on for it, it's unacceptable. The devs have done nowhere near enough in discouraging toxicity in this community. I've heard someone say it made them suicidal. If killers weren't so underpowered, this probably wouldn't be happening in the first place.

I will not play this game anymore except for when a new killer buff comes out. Then I'll check it out, and within the hour probably be off again because I'll see that nothing has changed, as always. This game is the biggest waste of potential I have ever seen.

Comments

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    If I ever get a pc I’ll just learn nurse I learned nurse on ps4 but I’m cucked by sensitivity And fps

  • crixus006
    crixus006 Member Posts: 383

    A lot of main killers did the same since ruin and nurse were nerfed , I'm main survivor and it's to easy escape that I'm boring and today I download another game because DBD is broken for survivors, although survivors and Devs say that killers are strong and every day I can read a post asking for killer perks need to be nerfed

  • Irisora
    Irisora Member Posts: 1,442

    The nurse nerf to her basekit was a backstab for me and many. She is playable... but with addons and she still have a lot of bugs that they never fix. And she become one of the slowest killers with the blink charges system. For me they ruined her, and you can see that almost no one play her anymore. It is a sad story. Sally the greteast killer nerfed to some mid tier killer..

    Ruin nerf did mayor damage to weakest killers, and therefore are in need of buff, for example Leatherface, Legion, Pig, Hag, Ghostface, Trapper, Wraith, The Clown and The Deathslinger. You can't play with them in rank 1 unless you enjoy 4 escapes or to get 1 kill with luck.

    They turned the game more than ever to be playable only with the top tier killer like Freddy, huntress, Oni, Spirit, Billy and being restricted to only those is tremendously boring. When will they realize that they are losing killers and interest of killers in the game??

  • hex_genrush
    hex_genrush Member Posts: 736

    My dude spitting a sermon. Great job

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813

    The whole post is depressing. If a video game has that much an effect on you then you should probably talk to somebody.

    It's easier to blame everything on a video game, though.

  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    You complain about something that goes both ways. Just like you said 4K one match 0K the next. Both ends of the spectrum need to be made possible. Sounds balanced to me. What’s not balanced is how easy it is for killers to just get greedy with kills and camp hooks with undetectable killers like ghost face and wraith. I think if you’re undetectable you should move slower And not be able to hide in a bush. You’re losing PIP anyways hook camping. This needs to be Discouraged. You complain about gen speed well I complain about how fast killers can kill people. How fast they can move and their ease of cutting chases short and my game short. How they can basically make 3-4x the amount of points I make as a survivor. Whatever man. Killers should be able to get ran on just like survivors can. Just my opinion. And it’s a fair one. You keep nerfing gen speed and I’ll uninstall the game. Because at that point it’s not fun to play solo anymore. Complaining about hatch. Complaining about DS. Complain about this. Complain about that.

  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    It’s ridiculous. Get a better game plan as a killer then. Play some of the better killers that imo are way better. They need to slow trapper and legion down. I’ve never seen a killer run faster than my 150% Lithe burst than Legion. Why are they so fast yet people still complain? Just get a better game plan.

  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    It’s nonsense. Then you add some lag in there and it affects survivors way more. Ebony Mori’s. I mean, just stop complaining. There’s a list for complaining about survivor experiences too.

  • ItzPixelYT
    ItzPixelYT Member Posts: 613

    I dont think killers need buffs. There is great/op perks for killer, same as survivor. I feel like the big issue is killers try too hard to get 4 kills. But while I do agree with the SWF statement, survivors are definitley not overpowered. Sure some perks like DS or Adrenaline might be a bit too good for what they do but I don't find a issue with any of them when i play Killer. The fact is there is a lot of 1 shot killers in the game and to me that's fair balance. You should look at the real issue instead of blaming perks and that is map sizes & loops.

    The last map added and the Lery's rework was great balancing the game needs. I find it almost impossible to win on Lery's as a survivor and the new map feels like it could go either way (which is what the game should be like). Maps like Autohaven, Crotus and Macmillan need rewords desparately because the size of the map for killer and the way the game is played now is very different to when the game came out.

    For me Springwood is the map that needs the biggest rework. Maybe make is a complete indoor map of the school and playground because there is too many buildings, pallets etc..it's my favorite survivor map because there is so many pallets and loops to run.

    But yeah that's my opinion. I love the game and how it is right now, i'm glad the old Ruin is gone from both sides because it really was "Ruining" the game. I don't think nerfing gen speeds needs to be the solution either, with the toolbox rework it seems to be like gens getting done slower now & nothing more FUN than sitting there longer to repair a generator.

    What I want right now is more Double BP's events. Man it's a grind...

  • SurviveByDaylight
    SurviveByDaylight Member Posts: 720

    you mentioned some of the killers that are actually really good. Freddys the best though. But ghost face and trapper are really good too. Wraith and ghost face are the absolute best at hook camping in a bush or a corn field. It’s ridiculous. My only wish is that they slow down wraith and his ability to uncloak fast. Or hide in a bush undetectable. This game literally encourages you to find other people yet I see killers hiding in bushes and faking leaving hooks to come back and rehook survivors. I get it. It’s a tactic? But you don’t rank up hook camping either 😂 idk I think you’re listing off Some good killers

  • WRussoW
    WRussoW Member Posts: 715

    Someone will post a meme here saying stuff like "uwu killers are the oppressed minority, lol".

  • Exerlin
    Exerlin Member Posts: 1,352

    It's amazing how ######### killer feels to play nowadays. Killers currently have to deal with a bugged first lunge, silent downed survivor noises, rubber-banding Hag teleport, rubber-banding Legion vault, ghost saws as Hillbilly, rubber-banding on Myer's stalk, puke that clearly makes contact with a survivor but doesn't infect them as Plague, and laggy Ghostface leaning. And that's not including all the second chance perks survivors can have, the vast majority of large, survivor-sided maps, and the tile randomization that occasionally grants survivors an amazing set of tiles.

    On the other side, survivors have to deal with campers, tunnelers, awful random teammates, and the occasional bs window hit. Both sides suffer from teleporting around due to lag every now and then. So sure, there are some things survivors suffer from, but killers suffer from much more issues, including bugs that have been in the game for a long time. It would be unreasonable to say something like "stop complaining about killer feeling #########" while survivors have been the more powerful role since the game's release and seem to have a much higher favor with the devs when it comes to bugfixes and nerfs.

  • Irisora
    Irisora Member Posts: 1,442

    Well it really depends on the rank you play and map. In rank 1 with trapper you don't have much time to set up traps as when you down and hook someone there is 2 gen left most of the times. And wraith and ghostface are very loopable killers so if its a map with 15 pallets... Same for poor piggy, her reverse bear traps doesn't mean anything anymore and they nerfed her TR and ambush.. A minute of silence for Piggy mains..

  • ShErMaDeRmA
    ShErMaDeRmA Member Posts: 338
    edited March 2020

    I'm not really gonna side on either as I play both often, but here's my opinion, both sides are lacking. Killers can get swf, loops, genrush, ds, flashlights, bad maps, etc, but survivor has its fair share of downfalls. There's the camp/ tunnel, slug, noed, DH, rancor, etc.

    My point is that rather than focusing on one side of the spectrum, we all need a full view to better understand. I recommend taking a break from mains in order to have a bit more fun. I played killer nonstop( so I may have a little bias )since 2017, and have recently played a lot of survivor, currently rank 9 Surv, rank 3 killer. Just try not to get burnt out, and see where everyone is coming from with complaints and whatnot so the community can better understand it, along with the devs, which could result in fixes TO BOTH SIDES.

    Thank you for listening to my TED talk

    And yes, rank does suck absolute balls

  • GreezyWeezy
    GreezyWeezy Member Posts: 72

    Slow Trapper down? Lol. How is he supposed to get to his traps in time? Legion needs all the speed he can get.

  • emptyCups
    emptyCups Member Posts: 1,262

    YeS yes yes

    Everything you said and more. 100% why I quit killer role

  • andyollolloll
    andyollolloll Member Posts: 940

    BHVR want killers to be bullied in a playground mentality.

  • Toxicity23
    Toxicity23 Member Posts: 387

    MY god dude, precisely why I quit DBD and have restrained myself from buying Deathslinger. The shift of the balance is glaringly obvious. I mostly left after realizing the Matchmaking was now ######### up, since the game is now matching red ranks with newbies.

This discussion has been closed.