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people confned to thier homes? BHVR still hading out DC bans? disgusting
people are confined to their homes because of a pandemic . and BHVR still handing out DC bans? disgusting.
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I know, I can't believe they won't let quarantined players ruin the game for all the other quarantined players.
DC bans aren't there to ruin your fun, they're there to stop you from ruining other people's fun.
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Just don't DC!
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You raise a good point. /s
Why on Earth would you DC to begin with, where are you going?
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Well since this is online game, i figure most would make sure they have a stable connect and if they lack that, wait until it is stable or try to fix it before playing. Now if the game crashes from time to time. Well my advice is to look up fixes online and hope one works for you, to stop the game from crashing every other match. I have no idea what platform people are on. When ever i notice the game starting to crash a lot. Restarting my pc tends to fix the problem for awhile for me. It rarely crashes anymore and if a five minute wait is bugging you. Going with the idea it is your first dc of the day. Well go listen to a music video on youtube for a few minutes or play something else for awhile, like dark souls until the time is up. That the best advice i can offer.
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How dare they not let people ruin everybody else's fun.
If this disconnection didn't ruin the game for everybody else in the match there wouldn't be a problem but it does.
However if you're someone who disconnects frequently enough for it to be active problem to you maybe you should reevaluate why you play the game.
Side note yes I know there are people who are actually innocent people subject to trolling Bugs or disconnected by servers even though it's wrong I hope those individual cases can be sorted out.
However if you disconnect because you didn't like a match or some other nonsense like that you shouldn't get any leniency because there's a quarantine.
What's your essentially saying is you want behaviour to stop punishing you for ruining other people's fun. Why should the other players have to deal with that when they are also under quarantine.
Post edited by Volfawott on4 -
With people in quarantine and probably bored and playing more games than before - it's definitely important NOT to ruin the game for the 4 other players in the match. DC bans are not going anywhere!
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yes cause people don't suicide on the hook or just sandbag their team instead of disconnecting
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So then whats the problem? Or are you just here to complain? Sandbagging would happen anyway even without DC bans. They'd just suicide on hook if the didn't want to play
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So quarantined players should be allowed to ruin the match for other quarantined players? The DC penalty is there to prevent people who like to DC from ruining other players' experiences. I frankly can't grasp how someone would think DCing is "fun" for them or for other players.
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So because people will look for ways to circumvent punishment, we shouldn't bother with the punishment in the first place? That makes no logical sense.
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So what does the quarantine have to do with your inability to deal with the conswquences of your ragequits?
I fail to see any connection between being forced to stay home and a penalty for disconnecting in a video game.
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BHVR won't let me ragequit even though we're in the middle of a pandemic and DCing after being downed once is the only joy I can find right now in this wretched world, this vale of tears 😭😭
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Disgustingly good.
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This said it best... Seriously, since December 2018 This game was literally dying due to a DC EPIDEMIC and I am not exaggerating that! The game was a [BAD WORD]ing joke wherein every player who wanted to DC for whatever petty reason, were allowed to do so without repercussions. If this were a battle royal, 1 v 1 Deathmatch, or Free for All Multiplayer game, then that kind of behavior could have been forgivable, but in a 4 v 1 Asymmetrical game? Wherein everyone relies on everyone else to participate in the game, "NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD IT'S GOING FOR YOU/THEM" (I can't state this enough as it relies on the sense of good sportsmanship in general), In order to enjoy the experience? Then the DC'er is just flat a flat out prick!
It got so bad that in the summer of 2019 everyone just accepted that if they played survivor, and weren't in an SWF group, they would lose, and we started to lose MANY players because of it. Why? Easy: Anyone on their team could DC at any moment because they were a bunch of over-entitled, whiny brats! Killers were not exempt from this either, but being that Survivor players make up the majority of the game... It tended to happen amongst them more often.
Here's a list of reasons these ass-hats were DC'ing:
- Don't like the Map
- Don't Like the killer
- Will lose my items
- Ruin was cleansed in 20 seconds/Survivors spawned on Ruin
- Got sighted first by the killer
- Downed by the killer first
- Couldn't down a survivor before the first gen popped
- Survivor team is SWF
- Team is all Solo players
- This build is ######### against this killer
- Missed the DS Skill-check
- First survivor chased is too good at juking
- I'm not gonna waste my time on an obviously lost/losing game (Stated by both killer and survivor in the first minute of the match if a survivor is hooked, or not hooked).
- Too OP (said by either side)
- I don't know how to counter this (Survivor against a killer they haven't encountered, Killer against survivors with builds they haven't encountered.)
- I got Hit!
- I couldn't hit them
- Someone used a Fog offering
- Killer/Survivor used a Secret offering
- (enter own petty reason here)
This era of the game made the "Dark Times" (wherein all survivors were superheroes with insane perks and items, and some killers were way overpowered) seem insignificant due to all of the terrible sportsmanship expressed by the bad apples of the community which infectiously spread so much that Taking advantage of it was a regular "thing" BECAUSE it went unpunished for so long, and was quintessentially the primary problem with the game for both veteran and new players alike. For (what should be) obvious reasons, this was horrible for the games overall health/future, and it is with great pride that I stand by the Dev's and their stance against it. It's at times like this I remember the golden rule someone posted regarding DC's:
7 - This is a 4v1 Lobby and Match style Multiplayer game. When you queue up to play a match you are committing to seeing it through so that everyone can enjoy the game, and everyone else who queued up is depending on your commitment to the match in order to experience said enjoyment. The acceptable reasons for Intentionally Disconnecting from a match are as follows:
- A Game breaking bug rendering you incapable of playing a normal match.
- A Player(s) taking the game hostage/hacking/exploiting bugs or game mechanics/bullying or griefing you. (Report these ones after leaving the match)
- Influences and situations outside of the game that make your disconnection unavoidable in order to deal with said circumstances.
Disconnecting from a match intentionally for any other reason is a practice in bad sportsmanship that Ruins the experience for all other players. Disconnecting over petty reasons doesn't do anything other than piss off everyone else, and makes you a worse player for it since you don't learn how to play any better by quitting. Too many DC's from too many players can also result in leaving the community as a whole with a sour experience, and could eventually kill the game we love. If you are frustrated with how a match is going; Take it in stride as a learning experience, see it through to the end, take a break, and decide if you want to queue up for another match. We all bought this game in order to play it with others despite how each match goes, and the majority of the fun this game offers is in the variation of each individual match.
Don't be a petty DC'er.
I understand your frustration of not being allowed to DC on a whim during a Pandemic situation, but unless you are DC'ing for any of the aforementioned acceptable reasons... You're just a petty DC'er, Who are no different from those that contributed to the near death of this game since December 2018, and you wholeheartedly Deserve your temp ban! I'm actually shocked BHVR took an entire year to implement this DC ban system..."Disgusting" doesn't even begin to describe it.
TL;DR
The DC Epidemic of 12/2018-12/2019 almost killed this game because players were DC'ing unpunished for any and every petty reason. The new DC penalty system is a freaking godsend, and it's a wonder why the devs didn't implement it sooner. OP is saying that taking away a players right to DC for any and every petty reason during a Pandemic situation is "disgusting"... I respectfully rebut this as just as "Disgusting" and doesn't even describe how bad the DC EPIDEMIC of 2018-2019 truly was While providing a firm statement to the contrary.
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Guess this didn't go the way you had hoped.
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DC penalties are fine.
The only real issue with them is that they can be annoying for people with unstable connection.
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This ignores those of us whose internet goes out intermittently.
It's not like my internet is going out every other match. It's going out like two or three times a day at random times that I cannot predict. And when it goes out, its out until I restart my router. Then its back either for three hours or its back for 24 hours. I've NEVER had my internet go out on me more than twice in 24 hours, but I've still built up a 6 hour penalty (in part thanks to the game crashing on me. I'm sure it REALLY ruined the game for the 0 other survivors left in the game when the killer closed the hatch, I made my way to the exit gate, opened it, made it all the way to the other side only for the game to NOT let me escape. And no, the killer didn't have blood warden. And even if they did -- 0 other survivors were still alive when the exit gates were even powered. Oh wait, no. Only my game was ruined by that, and MAYBE the killers but that wasn't even my fault). The penalty decays at a very slow rate, too. It seems designed to punish people with connection issues (even intermittent ones) rather than people who ragequit. I'm fine with there being a penalty, mind you. But I think the penalties enacted escalates way too fast and decay way too slowly. I shouldn't be punished for having an internet connection that works 95% of the time. At least not this much.
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Yeah which is why it would be nice, if possible to add a feature that lets someone rejoin with in like a minute or so [a time that seems reasonable]. IN case their internet is wacky, for sometimes it happen. That or if the game could tell the difference between a crash and someone dcing.
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I just had a game as killer where in the middle I got serious lag from the server (all other games and internet apps work just fine, so it is NOT my connection that has an issue) ending in a disconnect message and sure enough after the game comes back I AM GETTING PUNISHED for THEIR inability to provide a stable running piece of software !!!!!
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That'd be nice. At the very least as an option for killer. Let them reconnect to the game. Gens would probably get done in that time, but at the very least they'd be able to get more BP. Not sure why the game ends if the killer disconnects anyway. Well, I mean I guess its because the killer used to be the host. But with dedicated you'd think they could leave survivors in the trial. I mean I believe there have been games with 5 survivors and no killer.
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That list is so accurate it’s sad... I literally have been accused of tunneling and camping the last survivor alive???
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Though I have yet to DC, I have forbade all survivor play on my part. Why? The massive toxicity of the camping and slugging out there. After about your fifth match in a row of being slugged for the whole game, you get tired of it happening. Give these players a surrender option that is not a DC. Let the killer get sacrifice points and the player can move on. I have never seen the level of camping/tunneling/slugging that I've seen lately. Played 9 games as survivor last night and only one of them was void of an overabundance of those three things. No wonder they are DC'ing. I was so frustrated at the end of those 9 games that I loaded up all pink addons, the most toxic build I could on Doc and Eboni Mori for three matches in a row. Yep, I became part of the problem and mori'd 12 players before I realized I was falling victim to the toxicity of this game's community and the developers...yep, they are just as much to blame.
Seriously, any human being can only take so much of a frustrating thing before they have had enough. Telling them to go play another game is dumb. You want them to play YOUR game. This is why I play killer, well, that and it is much more rewarding in the BP department. I can't fathom why anyone would ever want to play solo survivor in this crap show.
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Damn this article turned into WW3 o.o
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Prime example of bad design. I'm sitting here now for 10 minutes in a locked up game. I dare not Ctrl-Alt-Del or I face a 5 minute ban. This happens multiple times a day sometimes, so I could quickly get upwards of an hour ban. This does not happen with any other PvP game or online game I play and I'm running an Alienware gaming machine that handles all other games just fine.
This game punishes you for their failure. I sit in killer que for 15 minutes just to sit at a loading screen for 15 more.
Pretty good job so far dev team.
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Yeah totally disgusting to make the game playable for the most of the playerbase.
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Sure, they matter too. But I'd hope the rest of us matter as well. And sometimes you just get disconnected from the server. In fact I JUST had a game where the server disconnected me. I was scared it was my internet at first, but I didn't have to reconnect and I was still able to use the internet.
There being a penalty is fine, but the escalation is a bit much. It hurts people who's internet may not be immaculate or who experience issues with the game. (I've had the game crash on me at LEAST twice in the last week. Coupled with some internet issues, and that's led to me having a 1 hour penalty for an issue with the server where I had green ping.) And I know the NEXT penalty is 6 hours, so now I essentially have to quit playing the rest of the day so that my penalty has time to decay, despite the fact that not only did my internet not go out, but it was the fault of the game itself.
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man this Bait sure did get a lot of traction, im impressed
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It'd be better if maybe first they'd fix the bugs causing the game to crash before moving to dc bans. I play every night pretty much...at least 20 hours a week and 50-100 games a week. I can count on one hand the number of dcs I see and I am on Xbox where aside from losing BP and PIPs there is nothing to stop you from dc'ing.
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Bravo. Exactly. Has more bugs than the Okefenokee in July.
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Today I received by first DC penalty.
I've never had this before but when I pressed Esc in a game to look at the offerings. DBD locked up, CPU utilization was maxed, I waited 2 minutes and it never came back.
I got a disconnect penalty for that. I've pressed Esc many times during matches but that's the first time it's caused me to be forcibly disconnected.
At rank 3 people kill themselves in my games all the time by dying on hooks.
It's good to see that the disconnect penalty is working well. If only the disconnect penalty could fix some of the bugs in this game everyone would be happy.
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It's so easy and quick to die on the hook, why bothering DC at all...?
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Some matches are quite frustrating I think and you can't die on hook. Had one last night where killer worked with the survivor. He would down you, the survivor healed and he downs you again. I started moving so I could not be healed and killer picked me up and kept dropping me in basement corner with survivor blocking me in. Did that till I was free, trapped all exits and downed me again. I step in the trap and the survivor helps me out just to get downed immediately.
3 DC'S in that match. I just went afk and reported afterwards. No video though, so the azzhats will do it again.
In short, can't die on hook if your not hooked.
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I would say that's debatable. On the one hand, it would absolutely be ideal if we could have the penalties without punishing innocent players. On the other hand, if we wait until the game is crash-free before implementing the penalties, we'll be waiting a very, very long time.
I don't think my game has crashed once in the middle of a match since the penalties were introduced. I'm not saying these things don't happen or shouldn't be improved upon by the developers, but I do think they're a lot rarer overall than the amount of people raving about them makes them seem, and I would also be inclined to believe that if someone's game is crashing enough in the span of a few days for the penalties to be noticeable, the problem might be more with the strength of their hardware than with the software itself. Dead By Daylight is not a well-optimised game, and lower-end systems do struggle to keep it running stably.
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Good. Thx for looking out for those of us who don't DC.
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I've had three crashes in the last week. And it's not my hardware because I'm not playing on PC. I'm playing on Switch. One time I was an inch away from escaping. Actually not even that, because I was AT THE LINE, but it wouldn't let me go through. I don't think it's rare enough or the DCs are so bad that we need Six+ hour penalties for these things. They should be capped at an hour. I also think they could mitigate some of the issues with DCs by allowing survivors to stay in the game if the killer disconnects and leaving a husk behind if a survivor disconnects (For BBQ). Also it should create a new obsession for obsession perks. (Neither of which issues are really fixed by the DC Penalty)
I mean I can't speak to experience on PC. Maybe PC works a lot better. But at least on Switch there's some issues.
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I just played a game where the killer disconnected, and at the Scoreboard it says both the killer and I disconnected, and I've been punished with a DC penalty. This is the 2nd time this has happened to me, so far. I'd rather have people disconnect than be stuck with myself being punished for stuff I am not doing intentionally 🤦🏻♀️ The back and forth on this is obnoxious, and no, people shouldn't disconnect, but some of you need to understand that there are people suffering from things beyond their own control and can't play. My app also crashes a lot, so I haven't been able to play as often as I used to 😔 such a bummer
*Edit* Just got into 2 more games, and it's had DC issues, something is wrong, at least on PS4. It's a couple minutes after the trial has started too.
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Yeah, the hardware thing isn't necessarily your fault, but as I said the game is not well-optimised, and with it not being a particularly beefy machine, that's probably especially true in the Switch's case. Like I said, it's a difficult call to make, because if they waited to implement penalties until everything was fixed, they might never get around to it. All in all, I think they probably do more good than they do harm, but admittedly I might feel differently if I or someone I knew were experiencing constant crashes.
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Often when you see the symbol of the killer and you having dc'ed and everyone still alive has an escape symbol next to them in reality the game is still ongoing and you have just been kicked from the connection. This was really bad this past summer where I got kicked 10 times in a single day, but recently it doesn't happen very often, but yeah if that happens to you on pc or PS4 the game will consider it a dc and ban you.
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Except for the fact that a lot of DC's are due to the game bugging out and kicking people or forcing people to have to dc when their character randomly gets frozen..
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