Ok killers need a nerf

Two words: is fine.

I agree to the OP, that certain killers need changes to make them not just being a nuisance. Iri Heads needs to go, Freddy as whole is just annoying cause he doesnt need any skill, as well as Spirit.

I have mixed feelings with what your say, some stuff is right and some is wrong.

First, I really dont think killers are op or unfair overall. True, Nurse and Spirit might be still overpowered af even tho some dont admit it here, but all the others are well ballanced or even a little (!) bit to weak. Well, Freddy needs some little nerfs since he is way to easy to get a good result, but the rest is fine.

Unfortunatly, tunneling and camping is a thing in DBD, and there is not a lot they can do about it. Try to get better at looping the killer, so to make it as hard as possible for him to catch you. The best feeling in DBD is when you run the killer for 5 gens and then get facecamped. Its like he is handing you a trophy.

Perks and addons... well addons, i must say that you are right with that. Stuff like iri head should be gone looong time ago. I dont get why they nerf stuff like BNPs, Insta heals or Toolboxes into the ground and leave completly broken stuff like iri head in the game. But Perks? Also survivor have strong perks, its not true that killer have here the upper hand.

With the maps, well again you are absolutly right, Saloon is very killersided and pretty much all the new maps or reworks are favouring more the killer. This trend is getting very annoying, and the reason is because so many killer players are extremly bad at the game and cry for buffs and stuff. But again - if it stays the way it is right now, i would be fine with it, more ballanced then it ever was.

Kind regards

Every killer tands a chance if played fine. and those mentioned are far away from being fine, ignoring any skill.

Ah i am a biased survivor for you LOL

Seriously, do you even read my post?

With some stuff he is wrong as i said but with some other he is simply right. But apparently in your mind it is biased when i support some arguments like that Iri head is broken (which it simply is) or that survivors got more nerfed then killers (pretty much a fact, read through patchnotes and come back later)

And Nurse and Spirit are op. I play them almost every day and they ARE simply op! They are not "just" good, you win almost every game with them if you are somehow decent. If you dont agree, i guess we are not on the same page, but dont call me biased on anything, with that you make yourself sound like a fool.. no offense.

Nice rant. Nurse and spirit are hard to ballance. I would fix some bugs and i would leave the nurse as she is right now. That sounds aweful since she is overpowered, but the only other solution i see is a complete rework of her power, and i would not like this since i like to play her aswell. The reason i would still leave the nurse is that thank god she is not a problem at the moment, because, as you mentioned, she is not played very often. Reason for that is probably the lack of skilled nurse players. She needs a lot of effort to master, and not that many want to spend that much time on a single killer.

Spirit.. well they have to add some sort of counterplay to her power. I mean.. REAL counterplay and not just a random guessing game.

If you really think, Iri head is fine because you can dodge normal hatchets, i must say you have no idea what you are talking about sorry. It is like saying "Add more pallets, because you know, you can break them..." Your argument makes no sense at all. There is of course a very big difference between Iri and non iri huntress, the chases are so much faster and especially the snowball is absurd.

The rest of your post is unfortunatly just angry exaggeration.

You dont read my post, again.

I am not sure why you mention "why some people always use the argument that other people are just bad at the game" to quote me. You may show me where i mentioned anything about me saying anything like that.

The Saloon is extremly killersided for reasons: Really bad loops, small size, super unsafe pallets, big deadzones, breakable walls, kinda dangerous gens, especially those 2 towards the deadzone and on the gallows.

Maps are recently (!) made more killersided. Saloon obviously like mentioned, Lab is indoor which is good for killer with tons of unsafe pallets and barly any decent window. Even the springwood rework is now better for killer, the old version was more survivorsided with its safer pallets. New Yamaoka has way worse loops then old Yamaoka, less pallets and escecially less safe pallets, the main building is in total favour for the killer. Why i think it is certaint? Because there is no counterargument. Unsafe loops are unsafe loops and small size is small size.

killers need nerf guns

And here we disagree. Generator speed is in my opinion fine as it is. Let me explain by starting with explaining value.

In theory, a hook is worth just about 8% and a generator is worth 20%, since you need 12 hooks as a killer and 5 generators for survior to complete your objective (we ignore now, that survs have to open the exit gate aswell). But these are only numbers. Lets go into detail so you know what i mean.

The first hook might be in fact just the 8%, actually sometimes even less, because of a few factors:

• The playfield is big, generators are spread out on the map
• All 4 survivors are (hopefully) on generators and you can only chase 1 guy at a time
• All pallets are still up

The same goes for gens (big playfield, all are working, all the resources for surviors are there)

By nature, the killer has (and has to have) a bad early game, and the reason why this is is because:

From the moment on, the killer hooked the first guy, every next hook becomes more and more valuable, since the dynamic of the game has now drasticly changed: Suddenly it changed from all 4 survs on gens to 1 Survivor on the hook, 1 is safing, one is getting chased and one is on a generator. On top of that, pallets get broken, the playfield becomes significantly smaller due to low value generators that have been done and the killer has constant pressure.

Every generator becomes more and more valueable and harder to do in the middle and late game, but on the contrast, it becomes more and more easy for the killer to get hooks, kills and genpressure (smaller playfield, less pallets for the survivors, more pressure, more downed people, more room to play for the killer like i said)

It is the NATURE for the game, that the first generators has to pop really quick. If that does not happen because of longer repairtimes, survivors wont stand a chance to succeed the last generators because of already named reasons.

When we look at the saloon now with its handful of extremly unsafe and its handful of very unsafe pallets, with like i said a massive deadzone where 2 gens have spawned, i dont see fairness at all. Especially in the endgame when those unsafe pallets are broken there is not a lot room to defend, especially since at that time, 1 or even 2 survivors should be dead normally, if the killer is decent.

The reason why i think that many complainers here are bad is because they apparently have problems i simply dont have, naming genrush. And i am not a progamer or anything. If i can do it, everyone else should be able to do it aswell OR at least be able to learn it. It is a little funny when people complain about the Ruin nerf and that it was just to please the baby survivors, but on the other hand, the same people complain about genrush, which is normally not a problem when you are a decent killer.

I really think, killers had more then enough buffs in the recent past, i think it is time to finally fix some of the issues that are in the game for ages like unfair Addons, Offerings or Items (Moris, Crazy addons like iri head, Keys)

Three words. “YOU’RE WRONG”