Leatherface's Blackface Should Not Be In The Game

No, this is not a troll thread. This has always been on my mind ever since I first saw this leatherface skin. I was compelled to make an account after seeing a blackfaced Leatherface troll and be toxic the entire game. It was clear what their intention was with putting on the skin.

So please, listen to understand and not to respond. Yes, we know that Leatherface is a killer and probably a psychopath. Yes, we know that he probably doesn't care which skin he wears-- black or white. Leatherface as an entity himself isn't the problem. The problem is allowing self aware players to put black skin on a white person and playing a "black" Leatherface. As a black person, this does not sit well with me at all. It feels like a mockery. And I know there will be black people replying in the comments "I'm black and dont care." That's cool. But many black people do and I know I'm not the only one who does.

I honestly wonder whether the devs considered the implications of allowing this skin. But all I can say is that it feels very isolating from the game as a black person and I hope I can get a conversation going so that more people can understand that.

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  • hex_genrush
    hex_genrush Member Posts: 736
    edited April 2020

    It’s just a game, and I don’t think the designers were out to get anyone or anything but I could get where your coming from

  • SassySolidSnake
    SassySolidSnake Member Posts: 65

    I understand your frustrations, the face he is wearing is Claudette's. Jake, Dwight and Meg's are all also available to unlock. Since Leatherface wears the skin of his victims, it was a fitting feature to add into the game. As far as player's personal intentions, that's unfortunately out of the Dev's control. In my personal experience Leatherface players are for the most part toxic (some, not all). I am sorry you feel this way, hopefully this opens up a constructive discussion about this. ❤️

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  • Deadman316
    Deadman316 Member Posts: 578

    Please tell this to all the whiners that say this or that perk is too strong, etc.

  • VolantConch1719
    VolantConch1719 Member Posts: 1,231

    Think about it this way. If they gave the other starting Survivors (Dwight, Meg and Jake) faces for Leatherface to wear, people would question why Claudette was excluded. It's a vicious cycle that has been brought up on these forums before, and this same argument I just put out is what is thrown down.

    I understand perfectly where you're coming from, and I myself don't fully agree with Leatherface being able to wear Claudette's face due to the societal issues behind it, but we have to look at it from the other side. Either Leatherface wears blackface and BHVR becomes racist, or Claudette is excluded and BHVR becomes racist.

    You remove one mask, you need to remove the others, and I can guarantee you that NO ONE will support that. I don't even have any of them and I'm against removing them.

  • NICK714
    NICK714 Member Posts: 173

    N-I-C-E--B-A-I-T

  • Joao_Bandicoot
    Joao_Bandicoot Member Posts: 286

    Did you watch any of his movies ? Serious question, because if you did you would know that he does take his victim's faces and wears it.

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  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    How was leatherface trolling with a Claudette face?? What was he doing so different than wearing any other face?


    It doesnt make sense to me.

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  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020

    I don't understand how its offensive but okay




    Leatherface's lore is that when he killed people, he makes his faces out of those who he killed

    Claudette's one of the original cast of survivors so he got her mask of it

  • ZoneDymo
    ZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946
    edited April 2020

    You dont understand the concept of blackface at all it seems.

    Im just going to go ahead and say, even though you claim it aint, this is a troll/bait thread.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,620

    I don't really understand your problem about it... the only who did that comparison is you and don't try to impose your point of view. It's like someone do a joke on TV and I think it was homophobic. I can't say "this person should apologize for being homophobic" because that was just my point of view. Some people feel attacked or threated by something when they shouldn't, some people are selfish and take everything so personal when it's not.

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  • Joao_Bandicoot
    Joao_Bandicoot Member Posts: 286

    So your suggestion is excluding that only face or all others too ? I can assure you that no one would want to lose such an amazing feature just because you feel like some people are using it with bad intentions (how you know such intentions without being the killer I don't get yet).

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  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    You skipped over me. How was leatherface trolling in the mask? Its impossible he was acting any different towards his face....

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    how is that in any way offensive?


    like, wouldnt it be a lot more offensive to exclude claudette for the sole reason that she has a dark skin color?

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  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020
    edited April 2020

    Yes I remember that stuff but, these two are completely different and like prior said, "Leatherface's lore is that when he killed people, he makes faces out of those who he killed"

    Hell, they don't even look close to how each other look



    Bubba possibly doesn't know about it either, as he is sorta a cannibal anyways


    EDIT: Had a engrish moment

  • Seiko300
    Seiko300 Member Posts: 1,862

    I can understand that Racism, Prejudice, etc. are all sensitive / hot topics to discuss especially in the US (where I'm guessing OP is from, as am I [I live close to Chicago myself which everyone knows is a bit of an unfortunate hot spot]) but it's important to understand that the developers of Dead By Daylight are Canadian.

    I won't claim to know squat about Canada, but I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that their political climate and history is not fraught with the same racial tensions that America's past keeps holding on to well into the present. While I'm sure you could make a very compelling case that racism and prejudice exist in all corners of the globe, I think it's very possible, if not likely, that they truly and honestly don't think about these things in Canada at the very least not as frequently and to the extent / degree that we do in the US.

    As it stands the United States is obsessed with Political Correctness, almost in a weird ritualistic way to atone for the apparent sins of the past (that most of us alive were not present for) that I'm honestly not sure is present in any other country. Of course anyone can absolutely correct me if I'm wrong... however I'm reasonably confident that I'm not, America has a pretty unique history all things considered.

    I don't think it's necessarily fair to judge people from other countries based on your own social norms or proclivities, if anything it's a tad ethnocentric.

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  • Elena
    Elena Member Posts: 2,187

    If anything I see it as supporting all races because the developers adding blackface shows that they recognize all races are equal and they're still human beings no matter what's different about the appearance.

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  • WheresTheGate
    WheresTheGate Member Posts: 576

    So we have 2 pieces of information:

    • The killer wore the Claudette face
    • The killer played toxic and trolled

    Those 2 things do not equate to enough information to infer the intent of the killer. To presume malicious intent with no more information than that is wild speculation at best.

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  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,374

    It shouldn't affect people in any way. If so, that's more on them.

    This is just a game, and it's simply the face of one of the original survivors in the game used on Leatherface and has no other implications what so ever. I doubt anyone puts on claudettes skin just to play a "black" Leatherface, and if someone actually does, they are just idiots, but nothing about their idiocity would change if this wasn't possible, and there is absolutely no reason to get offended by this because you shouldn't care for people like that in the first place. And because again, it has absolutely no racist implications.

    I'm all against discrimination in any sort of form, but I don't see how this is a problem in the slightest. Racism is a serious topic, it shouldn't be used on all kinds of nonesense like people nowadays like to do.

    In a perfect world, no one would even differentiate between Claudettes and the other survivors faces, because all people would be treated the same. Yes people of different countries have different cultures, but in the end we are all humans.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020

    I say that as I wasn't ALIVE during that




    But you just said "It's offensive to some people because of the fact you have a white character wearing black skin."

    Now its how the players play with it on


    You know that alot of survivors are known cosmetic wise for being toxic right?

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  • Dolls
    Dolls Member Posts: 395

    Its not blackface at all.


    And I guess he never trolled. Seeing how you cant exactly explain how leatherface in claudettes face was able to act different than wearing any other face.....

  • Elena
    Elena Member Posts: 2,187
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